Can you rent a basement of a house and go to that local school

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Report people who do this. It's theft.

It's not theft if you are a resident in the school district (but zoned for a different school). It's still lying and fraud, though.

It IS theft because you are stealing that school's resources. You may also sometimes be stealing a seat for a child who actually lives in bounds and could've gone to preschool there (as happens often in DC many kids don't get into their preschool because slots are full).

The crime theft has NOT been committed in these cases since it’s the same school system. If you live in DC and lie about your address to attend a school in Montgomery County then it IS theft.

[Anonymous]

Relative bought an apartment in Bethesda and then sold it off as soon as the child graduated. Probably made money on the whole deal. The mom used to go to the apartment on some days, telework from there, do the laundry and cooking there etc. It was a functioning apartment. Relatives and friends also stayed over. She had another cousin also live there.

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See, it’s a cultural issue. Some cultures view things differently.

In which culture(s) is it unacceptable for grandmothers to provide child care? I'm asking sincerely.

The white and self-claimed residence police.
If anyone rents a room, an apartment, a basement apartment in a good school distract with a lease and live there, they have the right to send their child to local school.

That's the key part.

Exactly. Of course a rented room, that is actually someone's residence, is sufficient to legally attend the local school. To the extent that anyone is claiming otherwise, they are crazy. But to pretend that simply owning an apartment or using the address of a relative where the kid does not live is legal is equally absurd.

The notion that cultural differences and the roles that grandparents may play excuse such behavior is simply making excuses for breaking the rules. (But if someone actually got a COSA because the grandparents provided after care -- and they actually accurately provided the facts in the COSA application -- then that's kosher. The COSA process is the other legit way to attend a school.)

[Anonymous]

Renting the apartment and not living there would set the child up for years and years of lying, not inviting friends over, and not being part of the same community as everyone else from school. I would argue that this burden would cancel out any academic benefit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Report people who do this. It's theft.

It's not theft if you are a resident in the school district (but zoned for a different school). It's still lying and fraud, though.

It IS theft because you are stealing that school's resources. You may also sometimes be stealing a seat for a child who actually lives in bounds and could've gone to preschool there (as happens often in DC many kids don't get into their preschool because slots are full).

The crime theft has NOT been committed in these cases since it’s the same school system. If you live in DC and lie about your address to attend a school in Montgomery County then it IS theft.

Interestingly, the families I know who do this do not live in DC. Mostly they live in Frederick County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Renting the apartment and not living there would set the child up for years and years of lying, not inviting friends over, and not being part of the same community as everyone else from school. I would argue that this burden would cancel out any academic benefit.

Kids are pretty smart. If you explain to them why you’re doing it, they get it.

DS has a friend that does this and it hasn’t been an issue for the friend socially. Everyone knows that they live out of bounds and that the mom wanted the kids to attend a different school than the one they were zoned for.

If anything, I’d say it creates some bad karma, but they all seem to be doing just fine.

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I think part of the reason it is SO easy and commonplace to commit residency fraud in MCPS is because of all the special programs. There are so many kids attending different schools and being bused all over, that people are used to having kids at their school who do not live inbounds.

Also, like it or not, politically, MoCo is a Sanctuary county. You can agree or disagree with the politics, but my kids go to a school with a high population of kids from undocumented immigrant families. They often are very transient, moving around from home to home or living in ‘shared housing’ with no official lease, etc.

MCPS is required to accommodate these families. We have kids who show up, literally on the first day of school to attend. MCPS has to take them.

I say all that to explain that MCPS is not going to require these families to provide all these proof of residency documents, especially when there is often a language barrier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think part of the reason it is SO easy and commonplace to commit residency fraud in MCPS is because of all the special programs. There are so many kids attending different schools and being bused all over, that people are used to having kids at their school who do not live inbounds.

Also, like it or not, politically, MoCo is a Sanctuary county. You can agree or disagree with the politics, but my kids go to a school with a high population of kids from undocumented immigrant families. They often are very transient, moving around from home to home or living in ‘shared housing’ with no official lease, etc.

MCPS is required to accommodate these families. We have kids who show up, literally on the first day of school to attend. MCPS has to take them.

I say all that to explain that MCPS is not going to require these families to provide all these proof of residency documents, especially when there is often a language barrier.

You are mistaken. The schools absolutely do require parents to submit these documents. There is a “shared housing” form for when you do not have an official lease, and mcps has an extensive pool of translators. It’s a large system full of professionals. Enrolling children in school is an actual process. No, they do not simply write down their name on the first day of school and escort them down to a teacher.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think part of the reason it is SO easy and commonplace to commit residency fraud in MCPS is because of all the special programs. There are so many kids attending different schools and being bused all over, that people are used to having kids at their school who do not live inbounds.

Also, like it or not, politically, MoCo is a Sanctuary county. You can agree or disagree with the politics, but my kids go to a school with a high population of kids from undocumented immigrant families. They often are very transient, moving around from home to home or living in ‘shared housing’ with no official lease, etc.

MCPS is required to accommodate these families. We have kids who show up, literally on the first day of school to attend. MCPS has to take them.

I say all that to explain that MCPS is not going to require these families to provide all these proof of residency documents, especially when there is often a language barrier.

You are mistaken. The schools absolutely do require parents to submit these documents. There is a “shared housing” form for when you do not have an official lease, and mcps has an extensive pool of translators. It’s a large system full of professionals. Enrolling children in school is an actual process. No, they do not simply write down their name on the first day of school and escort them down to a teacher.

Does the school system deny education from kids on the grounds of missing paperwork?
Legally every kid has to go to school, either private, or home school if parents so request.
Are there kids who are denied enrollment?

I ask because years ago we moved back home and had lived with my grandma before my parents found accomodation. It took a few months

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That sounds really unethical and dishonest OP. Dont' you think?

Yes immoral and unethical.

This can and will get reported. Especially if it’s your friend or relatives home and you’re renting it for $1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think part of the reason it is SO easy and commonplace to commit residency fraud in MCPS is because of all the special programs. There are so many kids attending different schools and being bused all over, that people are used to having kids at their school who do not live inbounds.

Also, like it or not, politically, MoCo is a Sanctuary county. You can agree or disagree with the politics, but my kids go to a school with a high population of kids from undocumented immigrant families. They often are very transient, moving around from home to home or living in ‘shared housing’ with no official lease, etc.

MCPS is required to accommodate these families. We have kids who show up, literally on the first day of school to attend. MCPS has to take them.

I say all that to explain that MCPS is not going to require these families to provide all these proof of residency documents, especially when there is often a language barrier.

You are mistaken. The schools absolutely do require parents to submit these documents. There is a “shared housing” form for when you do not have an official lease, and mcps has an extensive pool of translators. It’s a large system full of professionals. Enrolling children in school is an actual process. No, they do not simply write down their name on the first day of school and escort them down to a teacher.

Does the school system deny education from kids on the grounds of missing paperwork?
Legally every kid has to go to school, either private, or home school if parents so request.
Are there kids who are denied enrollment?

I ask because years ago we moved back home and had lived with my grandma before my parents found accomodation. It took a few months

This is true. The school system is required to enroll all students. Kids are not denied enrollment.

We are at a school with a highly transient population. They absolutely accept kids on the spot and walk them to class. We have a lady who speaks Spanish and does exactly that. Meets the parents on the first day and gets the kids into school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Renting the apartment and not living there would set the child up for years and years of lying, not inviting friends over, and not being part of the same community as everyone else from school. I would argue that this burden would cancel out any academic benefit.

Not true... W kids would never go to an apartment for a play date but would offer to host one. So kids in apartments get to be part of the community it's just that their parents won't let them go to certain houses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Renting the apartment and not living there would set the child up for years and years of lying, not inviting friends over, and not being part of the same community as everyone else from school. I would argue that this burden would cancel out any academic benefit.

Kids are pretty smart. If you explain to them why you’re doing it, they get it.

DS has a friend that does this and it hasn’t been an issue for the friend socially. Everyone knows that they live out of bounds and that the mom wanted the kids to attend a different school than the one they were zoned for.

If anything, I’d say it creates some bad karma, but they all seem to be doing just fine.

So, it’s okay to lie if you explain why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think part of the reason it is SO easy and commonplace to commit residency fraud in MCPS is because of all the special programs. There are so many kids attending different schools and being bused all over, that people are used to having kids at their school who do not live inbounds.

Also, like it or not, politically, MoCo is a Sanctuary county. You can agree or disagree with the politics, but my kids go to a school with a high population of kids from undocumented immigrant families. They often are very transient, moving around from home to home or living in ‘shared housing’ with no official lease, etc.

MCPS is required to accommodate these families. We have kids who show up, literally on the first day of school to attend. MCPS has to take them.

I say all that to explain that MCPS is not going to require these families to provide all these proof of residency documents, especially when there is often a language barrier.

You are mistaken. The schools absolutely do require parents to submit these documents. There is a “shared housing” form for when you do not have an official lease, and mcps has an extensive pool of translators. It’s a large system full of professionals. Enrolling children in school is an actual process. No, they do not simply write down their name on the first day of school and escort them down to a teacher.

Does the school system deny education from kids on the grounds of missing paperwork?
Legally every kid has to go to school, either private, or home school if parents so request.
Are there kids who are denied enrollment?

I ask because years ago we moved back home and had lived with my grandma before my parents found accomodation. It took a few months

This is true. The school system is required to enroll all students. Kids are not denied enrollment.

We are at a school with a highly transient population. They absolutely accept kids on the spot and walk them to class. We have a lady who speaks Spanish and does exactly that. Meets the parents on the first day and gets the kids into school.

Are there kids that do not go to school because enrollment was denied?
Do they just stay at home for an extra year, find work as cleaners or what?

Has anyone missed a year of school because of this and had to start again a year later?
Redshirting on the basis of living situation!

[Anonymous]

No. Don't be unethical and teach your child a terrible message to skirt the rules.