Missing child from NJ- Dulce Alvarez

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Anonymous wrote:PPs who are blaming the mom are seriously disgusting me right now. Callous, uncalled for, and placing blame in the wrong hands. The risk of abduction is remarkably low, the lowest it’s ever been in history. Yes it happens, and lightning can also strike your child. I just can’t believe that when this is clearly a case where the child is taken by a stranger and meant to be harmed in a horrible way, the focus is on the “neglect” of the mother who dared to take her children to the playground while helping her niece with her homework in her car.

First she wasn't watching her young children or she would have noticed a man luring her 5 year old into a van. Then she waited an HOUR to call the police - WTH??

Ok I am PP and reading these responses and I finally get it. I was trying to figure out why the media coverage was so inconsistent and inaccurate and why so many people are just like - well it was the mom’s fault her child got abducted. It’s because the child was an “other” and the mom was an “other”. If she were a blue eyed blond little girl, there would be a well-controlled media message to GET THIS GIRL FOUND AND HOME AND SAFE, thoughts and prayers for the family, protectiveness for the family, and focus on finding her instead of placing blame on the mother.

Nailed it.

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Bingo. It's an other, so the mother did something wrong.

Oh bull. If some bleach blond high society mom sent her young children off to play while she stayed in the car and then waited AN HOUR to call 911 - she would be judged very harshly.

If anything this young 19 year old mother is being given a pass because she is so young and had so much on her plate. What she did was pretty stupid but she's also little more than a kid herself and kids sometimes do stupid, careless things.

Hear me out: you turn around at the playground, lose sight of your kids. Kid says mom, I can’t find sibling. You don’t IMMEDIATELY call 911. You assume kid is around there somewhere and look like heck. It’s a big park, she probably thought she would be able to find her. An abduction isn’t your first thought, it’s that she’s lost or hiding somewhere. By the time you realize oh sh*t we really can’t find her and she’s not here, a good amount of time could have passed. Let’s not forget too she’s Hispanic and for brown people in this political climate, calling the police is not an easy or safe proposition. She probably waited until she absolutely knew she had to resort to that to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised that there were witnesses who saw a little girl being lured into a van and didn’t scream holy hell at the time. Such an awful situation.
And I totally agree that there are plenty of UMC white women who let younger sibs play at a playground while they are watching older sibs play soccer or baseball at the next field over. I would let a 5 year old do that.

Maybe the witnesses thought he was the girl's father/uncle/grownup who was supposed to be watching her. If she went willingly with him, they might have thought nothing of it until police came around with her picture asking if anyone had seen her. Then they would say "yeah, I saw her getting in a van with a man....wait, she wasn't supposed to? she didn't know him? oh no."

And anyone who says they have never taken their eyes off their kid for one moment at the playground is lying.

This woman had her “eyes off the girl “ the entire time! It wasn’t until the three year old came to her that she even knew she was gone.

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Anonymous wrote:PPs who are blaming the mom are seriously disgusting me right now. Callous, uncalled for, and placing blame in the wrong hands. The risk of abduction is remarkably low, the lowest it’s ever been in history. Yes it happens, and lightning can also strike your child. I just can’t believe that when this is clearly a case where the child is taken by a stranger and meant to be harmed in a horrible way, the focus is on the “neglect” of the mother who dared to take her children to the playground while helping her niece with her homework in her car.

First she wasn't watching her young children or she would have noticed a man luring her 5 year old into a van. Then she waited an HOUR to call the police - WTH??

Ok I am PP and reading these responses and I finally get it. I was trying to figure out why the media coverage was so inconsistent and inaccurate and why so many people are just like - well it was the mom’s fault her child got abducted. It’s because the child was an “other” and the mom was an “other”. If she were a blue eyed blond little girl, there would be a well-controlled media message to GET THIS GIRL FOUND AND HOME AND SAFE, thoughts and prayers for the family, protectiveness for the family, and focus on finding her instead of placing blame on the mother.

Nailed it.

+1000

Bingo. It's an other, so the mother did something wrong.

Oh bull. If some bleach blond high society mom sent her young children off to play while she stayed in the car and then waited AN HOUR to call 911 - she would be judged very harshly.

If anything this young 19 year old mother is being given a pass because she is so young and had so much on her plate. What she did was pretty stupid but she's also little more than a kid herself and kids sometimes do stupid, careless things.

Hear me out: you turn around at the playground, lose sight of your kids. Kid says mom, I can’t find sibling. You don’t IMMEDIATELY call 911. You assume kid is around there somewhere and look like heck. It’s a big park, she probably thought she would be able to find her. An abduction isn’t your first thought, it’s that she’s lost or hiding somewhere. By the time you realize oh sh*t we really can’t find her and she’s not here, a good amount of time could have passed. Let’s not forget too she’s Hispanic and for brown people in this political climate, calling the police is not an easy or safe proposition. She probably waited until she absolutely knew she had to resort to that to do so.

For someone “so afraid” to put themselves out there, she certainly was very comfortable posting photos of her self getting hgh on social media, getting medical /prenatal care at US hospitals, etc. Yeah.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like there hasn’t been as much media coverage for this considering the circumstances. She was lured into a van and taken from a playground. This should be all over the news

She’s Hispanic. It would be in the news if it were a blond little white girl.

You are so tiresome.

NP- she's right. Blue eyes, blond hair, "pretty" girls get the media. No need to get defensive about it, it's the truth.

Yet, Dulce is in the news and now she's on DCUM. But here you are complaining about......???? What exactly is that you are complaining about?

You are aware that her missing posters are plastered all over that town and that there have been volunteers and police searches for her. There's an Amber Alert. People ARE talking about Dulce. YOU are the one talking about random blond white girls.

You are SOOO RIGHT. She's on DCUM. whoop whoop.



Are you in the media?? Why are you so hell bent to defend the media? She's not on all over the news. She's on some news, no where near the level missing white kids. No where. It not YOUR fault, it's the media, it's what gets clicks and reads.

Then complain to the liberal media. Seriously. Why isn't MSNBC covering this or are they?

I'm commenting on DCUM, not against you (I don't understand why you are so defensive about this). I don't see this story on the front page of CNN, MSNBC, I see a missing teen (white) on Foxnews, or ABC. She's just not there.

Isn't it because with Hispanic and black children it is often an issue of the a relative taking the child for random reasons -- such as a non custodial father, or grandmother, or aunt.

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Anonymous wrote:PPs who are blaming the mom are seriously disgusting me right now. Callous, uncalled for, and placing blame in the wrong hands. The risk of abduction is remarkably low, the lowest it’s ever been in history. Yes it happens, and lightning can also strike your child. I just can’t believe that when this is clearly a case where the child is taken by a stranger and meant to be harmed in a horrible way, the focus is on the “neglect” of the mother who dared to take her children to the playground while helping her niece with her homework in her car.

First she wasn't watching her young children or she would have noticed a man luring her 5 year old into a van. Then she waited an HOUR to call the police - WTH??

Ok I am PP and reading these responses and I finally get it. I was trying to figure out why the media coverage was so inconsistent and inaccurate and why so many people are just like - well it was the mom’s fault her child got abducted. It’s because the child was an “other” and the mom was an “other”. If she were a blue eyed blond little girl, there would be a well-controlled media message to GET THIS GIRL FOUND AND HOME AND SAFE, thoughts and prayers for the family, protectiveness for the family, and focus on finding her instead of placing blame on the mother.

Not quite. They aren’t “others” because of their skin color. They are “other” because we are talking about a teen mom with 3 kids. This story is about a person who makes bad decisions.

How do you

Jesus. You act like this mom was out doing drugs while her kids were who knows where. She was taking the kids to the playground. She was helping the older child with her homework. You keep telling yourself that it’s not because of her skin color.

That is the mom's story. We don't really know what happened to Dulce, do we? Can we just assume that a mother who would allow her 3 and 5 year old to play alone on a playground while she was distracted a good distance away AND then did not call the police for an hour or more once the child was discovered missing...is also completely trustworthy and truthful?

This is a 19 year old girl who has two children and is pregnant with a third (3 different fathers). Her reality is not something that most of us could ever relate to. You don't know who she was hanging around with or what she may have been involved in. She could be lying because she is terrified for all we know.

How do you know all of this background info about the mother?

DP A lot of information about the mother, including Facebook photos of her partying, have been on the media that you say is ignoring the situation. There is also information about the 3 fathers, especially the one who is the alleged father of the unborn child. He is in the States illegally and fears deportation.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like there hasn’t been as much media coverage for this considering the circumstances. She was lured into a van and taken from a playground. This should be all over the news

She’s Hispanic. It would be in the news if it were a blond little white girl.

You are so tiresome.

NP- she's right. Blue eyes, blond hair, "pretty" girls get the media. No need to get defensive about it, it's the truth.

Yet, Dulce is in the news and now she's on DCUM. But here you are complaining about......???? What exactly is that you are complaining about?

You are aware that her missing posters are plastered all over that town and that there have been volunteers and police searches for her. There's an Amber Alert. People ARE talking about Dulce. YOU are the one talking about random blond white girls.

You are SOOO RIGHT. She's on DCUM. whoop whoop.



Are you in the media?? Why are you so hell bent to defend the media? She's not on all over the news. She's on some news, no where near the level missing white kids. No where. It not YOUR fault, it's the media, it's what gets clicks and reads.

Then complain to the liberal media. Seriously. Why isn't MSNBC covering this or are they?

I'm commenting on DCUM, not against you (I don't understand why you are so defensive about this). I don't see this story on the front page of CNN, MSNBC, I see a missing teen (white) on Foxnews, or ABC. She's just not there.

Isn't it because with Hispanic and black children it is often an issue of the a relative taking the child for random reasons -- such as a non custodial father, or grandmother, or aunt.

This is the case in most child abductions, not just abductions of minority children.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like there hasn’t been as much media coverage for this considering the circumstances. She was lured into a van and taken from a playground. This should be all over the news

She’s Hispanic. It would be in the news if it were a blond little white girl.

You are so tiresome.

NP- she's right. Blue eyes, blond hair, "pretty" girls get the media. No need to get defensive about it, it's the truth.

Yet, Dulce is in the news and now she's on DCUM. But here you are complaining about......???? What exactly is that you are complaining about?

You are aware that her missing posters are plastered all over that town and that there have been volunteers and police searches for her. There's an Amber Alert. People ARE talking about Dulce. YOU are the one talking about random blond white girls.

You are SOOO RIGHT. She's on DCUM. whoop whoop.



Are you in the media?? Why are you so hell bent to defend the media? She's not on all over the news. She's on some news, no where near the level missing white kids. No where. It not YOUR fault, it's the media, it's what gets clicks and reads.

Then complain to the liberal media. Seriously. Why isn't MSNBC covering this or are they?

I'm commenting on DCUM, not against you (I don't understand why you are so defensive about this). I don't see this story on the front page of CNN, MSNBC, I see a missing teen (white) on Foxnews, or ABC. She's just not there.

Isn't it because with Hispanic and black children it is often an issue of the a relative taking the child for random reasons -- such as a non custodial father, or grandmother, or aunt.

I think in this case there is concern that a person who is in this country illegally may have something to do with this. That's a real hot potato for the press and they aren't going to touch that until all the facts are out and they can spin it into a more palatable version of the truth. In the meantime, the media is going to sit this one out.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the google map of the park
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Burt+St,+Bridgeton,+NJ+08302,+USA/@39.4361161,-75.2416939,168a,35y,90h,39.47t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c73952654f7469:0xc83bcefb205b361f!8m2!3d39.4353549!4d-75.2435243

The swings are just north of the basketball park. There are two places to park. One is south of the basketball park in the main parking area and the other is a smaller lot to the east of the playground. It is believed the mom was in the smaller lot and could see the playground from her car. However there are some bushes / buildings that block the full view of the slides.

Oh I got that wrong. Mom was apparently in the southern parking lot in a spot that gave a view to the playground across the basketball court. The 3 year old pointed that the child had gone in the direction of the smaller parking lot / buildings.

Well at least the 3 year old was paying attention. I'm sorry, that is just beyond careless of that mother.

I don't have a lot of patience for this kind of stupidity, not when little kids are involved. I hope they find that little one.

The mother is 19. Dont do this to her.

Sure, I hope nothing bad happens in your life, or it is all your fault.

And I hope that little girl is found safe . I would never wish a horror like this on any parent. I do think that the mother was careless and I do think that waiting so long to call police has compromised her daughter's safety.

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I think in this case there is concern that a person who is in this country illegally may have something to do with this. That's a real hot potato for the press and they aren't going to touch that until all the facts are out and they can spin it into a more palatable version of the truth. In the meantime, the media is going to sit this one out.



Yeah. This is pretty much why the press is treading so lightly. If the alleged suspect had been blonde, it would be getting so much more coverage. It’s just a really bad confluence of events.
Honestly I don’t think more coverage is going to help.
I’m holding out hope it’s custodial.

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It's so sad, awfu things happening to her. I bet you it's someone local.

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My heart goes out to this family and little girl. All of us have taken our eyes off our children. This weekend we were at my son’s game with my daughter playing on the side of the field. I turned around and she was gone. Like nowhere in site. My first thought wasn’t to scream or call 911. I had a feeling of panic but my rational self said she was playing somewhere on the crowded sidelines. So I went looking all over and it was a good 15 min later when I found her sitting back where I had left. She saw a friend from her class and went to see her. They weren’t far but I didn’t see them. My point is, parents take their eyes off their kids and it is almost always okay. This time it wasn’t for this little one and my heart breaks for them.

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Anonymous wrote:My heart goes out to this family and little girl. All of us have taken our eyes off our children. This weekend we were at my son’s game with my daughter playing on the side of the field. I turned around and she was gone. Like nowhere in site. My first thought wasn’t to scream or call 911. I had a feeling of panic but my rational self said she was playing somewhere on the crowded sidelines. So I went looking all over and it was a good 15 min later when I found her sitting back where I had left. She saw a friend from her class and went to see her. They weren’t far but I didn’t see them. My point is, parents take their eyes off their kids and it is almost always okay. This time it wasn’t for this little one and my heart breaks for them.

You were neglectful and I hope you learned your lesson. I feel terrible for this poor little girl Dulce , who was born into such an unfortunate situation.

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Anonymous wrote:My heart goes out to this family and little girl. All of us have taken our eyes off our children. This weekend we were at my son’s game with my daughter playing on the side of the field. I turned around and she was gone. Like nowhere in site. My first thought wasn’t to scream or call 911. I had a feeling of panic but my rational self said she was playing somewhere on the crowded sidelines. So I went looking all over and it was a good 15 min later when I found her sitting back where I had left. She saw a friend from her class and went to see her. They weren’t far but I didn’t see them. My point is, parents take their eyes off their kids and it is almost always okay. This time it wasn’t for this little one and my heart breaks for them.

The difference is that you were right there with your daughter and you did locate her within 15 minutes. I agree that sort of thing does happen. It happened to me once and the time I spent looking for my son was maybe 5 minutes - it felt like an eternity. The panic was building when I suddenly saw him thank God.

Dulce may have been gone for 10 or 15 minutes before her mother even started to look for her and by the time she actually called the cops her daughter had been gone for an hour or more.

I'm not going to beat that 19 year old mother up. She used some very poor judgement but she is not responsible for a stranger abducting her child.

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I mean, even if you zoned out during Sex Ed, surely you understand how it works before your THIRD unplanned pregnancy?

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I'm from south Jersey about 10 miles from where this happened and have been following reports friends on FB have been posting. I still don't understand how any "witnesses" have described in great detail the abductor - how tall he is, his race, his lack of facial hair but the fact he has acne, what he was wearing, the style of car - but no one thought to grab a license plate number or, I dunno, maybe start screaming that a little girl was being lured into a van?!

Something is seriously fishy here.