2019: What Did Your Kids Consider Safety Schools? Did They Get In?

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Anonymous wrote:TJ rising senior. 4.02 WGPA/ 1520 SAT (740/780), 800 Math 2, Physics and Literature SAT 2. Middle of the pack for TJ. Will apply to Pitt rolling admission at the beginning of the school year as the school. We can afford it and they will almost certainly get in (my definition of a true safety). And if they are rejected, we will know in time to recalibrate. Wooster and St. Olaf as likely. Matches include CWRU (arts and sciences, not engineering), Kenton, Oberlin, Macalaster, WM.

Not likely to do reaches. Does not want UVA, and we can’t afford private w/o merit aid.


Kid should at least apply to UVA then. This is nuts.


Why? This particular kid really likes WM, and UVA is not a good match for a number of reasons.



He should apply to both. I realize it's a TJ GPA, but a 4.02 weighted GPA is very low for both William & Mary and UVA.


My kids guidance counselor has looked at the 2019 admit stat and feels like he has a good shot. Naviance says average TJ admit for class of 2018 to WM was 4.16/1519. 144 admitted/169 applicants (more than 85%). Being a male applicant helps. Specific things in this kid’s application also give him a boost. WM really loves TJ kids. WM also places more emphasis on test scores. Vs. UVA which puts more on GPA. Of my kid doesn’t get into WM, they won’t get into UVA. And it will be especially bad this year, with UVA introducing ED— which my kid would definitely not use.

But mostly— there are specific reasons why UVA is a bad choice for my kid. UVA is good, perfect, wonderful, hangs the moon, etc., etc. that doesn’t make it a good choice for every kid.


So it sounds like for a male application from TJ with those stats, W&M is extremely close to a sure thing.
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Anonymous wrote:DD ultimately got in to and will attend her reach - Penn (yes she liked hte campus).

She was also admitted to BC honors program, Middlebury and UCLA. Denied at Carlton (we didnt visit, silly to apply really), Princeton and Tufts. Her likely was University of Vermont; she was admitted to UVM in late Jan/early feb. it was a good thing to have one in her pocket.


It’s Carleton, not Carlton.


We've already established that PP made up her post since Boston College no longer has an honors program.
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Anonymous wrote:TJ rising senior. 4.02 WGPA/ 1520 SAT (740/780), 800 Math 2, Physics and Literature SAT 2. Middle of the pack for TJ. Will apply to Pitt rolling admission at the beginning of the school year as the school. We can afford it and they will almost certainly get in (my definition of a true safety). And if they are rejected, we will know in time to recalibrate. Wooster and St. Olaf as likely. Matches include CWRU (arts and sciences, not engineering), Kenton, Oberlin, Macalaster, WM.

Not likely to do reaches. Does not want UVA, and we can’t afford private w/o merit aid.


Kid should at least apply to UVA then. This is nuts.


Why? This particular kid really likes WM, and UVA is not a good match for a number of reasons.



He should apply to both. I realize it's a TJ GPA, but a 4.02 weighted GPA is very low for both William & Mary and UVA.


My kids guidance counselor has looked at the 2019 admit stat and feels like he has a good shot. Naviance says average TJ admit for class of 2018 to WM was 4.16/1519. 144 admitted/169 applicants (more than 85%). Being a male applicant helps. Specific things in this kid’s application also give him a boost. WM really loves TJ kids. WM also places more emphasis on test scores. Vs. UVA which puts more on GPA. Of my kid doesn’t get into WM, they won’t get into UVA. And it will be especially bad this year, with UVA introducing ED— which my kid would definitely not use.

But mostly— there are specific reasons why UVA is a bad choice for my kid. UVA is good, perfect, wonderful, hangs the moon, etc., etc. that doesn’t make it a good choice for every kid.


So it sounds like for a male application from TJ with those stats, W&M is extremely close to a sure thing.



Nothing is a sure thing in the college admissions world anymore.
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Anonymous wrote:TJ rising senior. 4.02 WGPA/ 1520 SAT (740/780), 800 Math 2, Physics and Literature SAT 2. Middle of the pack for TJ. Will apply to Pitt rolling admission at the beginning of the school year as the school. We can afford it and they will almost certainly get in (my definition of a true safety). And if they are rejected, we will know in time to recalibrate. Wooster and St. Olaf as likely. Matches include CWRU (arts and sciences, not engineering), Kenton, Oberlin, Macalaster, WM.

Not likely to do reaches. Does not want UVA, and we can’t afford private w/o merit aid.


Kid should at least apply to UVA then. This is nuts.


Why? This particular kid really likes WM, and UVA is not a good match for a number of reasons.



He should apply to both. I realize it's a TJ GPA, but a 4.02 weighted GPA is very low for both William & Mary and UVA.


My kids guidance counselor has looked at the 2019 admit stat and feels like he has a good shot. Naviance says average TJ admit for class of 2018 to WM was 4.16/1519. 144 admitted/169 applicants (more than 85%). Being a male applicant helps. Specific things in this kid’s application also give him a boost. WM really loves TJ kids. WM also places more emphasis on test scores. Vs. UVA which puts more on GPA. Of my kid doesn’t get into WM, they won’t get into UVA. And it will be especially bad this year, with UVA introducing ED— which my kid would definitely not use.

But mostly— there are specific reasons why UVA is a bad choice for my kid. UVA is good, perfect, wonderful, hangs the moon, etc., etc. that doesn’t make it a good choice for every kid.


So it sounds like for a male application from TJ with those stats, W&M is extremely close to a sure thing.



Nothing is a sure thing in the college admissions world anymore.


Don't be overly dramatic. For a school like TJ, some colleges are sure things - you can see it on the Naviance scattergrams.
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Anonymous wrote:Don't be overly dramatic. For a school like TJ, some colleges are sure things - you can see it on the Naviance scattergrams.

Rely on Naviance to determine safeties at your peril. The line between all-green-checks and mixed red/green moves annually.
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Anonymous wrote:Don't be overly dramatic. For a school like TJ, some colleges are sure things - you can see it on the Naviance scattergrams.

Rely on Naviance to determine safeties at your peril. The line between all-green-checks and mixed red/green moves annually.



Also, there are upsets every single year due to students applying to ever-increasing number of colleges. One year it was Virginia Tech. Another year UVA. One parent posted here about a year ago that her highly qualified daughter applied to nine schools and didn't get into one of them. Read College Confidential, especially the posts by the students who didn't get in. Those are very informative and will give you an idea of caliber of student being rejected.
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