We shouldn’t have to live this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Over react much? A mass shooting was your first thought? Amazing.

It wasn't an overreaction at all.

I was driving back from Ikea with a new mattress. a group of police cars zoomed passed me, then ambulances, then countless police vehicles. I worried it was a shooting.

It was indeed a shooting at the local high school, and a minute later I drove past the school to see students walking out. A student was killed in the shooting.

[Anonymous]

Any shotgun can be a deadly weapon if misused.

A person can literally make the ammunition for a black powder firearm at home.

How does registering any firearm prevent crime? If it is so effective, why has DC had so much violent crime when it has had gun registration since the 70's?

The fundamental premise of "gun control " uniformly is that more and more laws somehow will result in less crime, but that never happens because, by definition, criminals do not obey the law. Instead, decent people have their freedom abridged.

Endless debates about fanciful "solutions" does not move the ball down the field. Nor does the positing of practically and legally unenforceable draconian fantasies, especially those formulated with absolutely no understanding of how firearms work, what the present status of the law is, and what the actual utility of firearms is.

Decent people should not be deprived of the efficacious means of self defense because criminals misuse firearms.

What should we be doing to criminals to prevent them from misusing firearms and otherwise committing violent crimes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any shotgun can be a deadly weapon if misused.

A person can literally make the ammunition for a black powder firearm at home.

How does registering any firearm prevent crime? If it is so effective, why has DC had so much violent crime when it has had gun registration since the 70's?

The fundamental premise of "gun control " uniformly is that more and more laws somehow will result in less crime, but that never happens because, by definition, criminals do not obey the law. Instead, decent people have their freedom abridged.

Endless debates about fanciful "solutions" does not move the ball down the field. Nor does the positing of practically and legally unenforceable draconian fantasies, especially those formulated with absolutely no understanding of how firearms work, what the present status of the law is, and what the actual utility of firearms is.

Decent people should not be deprived of the efficacious means of self defense because criminals misuse firearms.

What should we be doing to criminals to prevent them from misusing firearms and otherwise committing violent crimes?

This all or nothing argument is what got is where we are. You don’t get to tell me I don’t get to have a conversation about how to protect myself from a dangerous thing just because I don’t understand the inner workings of it.

Guns need more common sense regulation, not less. More restrictions on purchasing, ownership, usage, storage, and fitness of the owner. Decent people who want to ensure only decent people have access to dangerous weapons will surely want to have a respectful and reasoned conversation with other citizens to make sure that we have safe and effective laws that keep guns from criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any shotgun can be a deadly weapon if misused.

A person can literally make the ammunition for a black powder firearm at home.

How does registering any firearm prevent crime? If it is so effective, why has DC had so much violent crime when it has had gun registration since the 70's?

The fundamental premise of "gun control " uniformly is that more and more laws somehow will result in less crime, but that never happens because, by definition, criminals do not obey the law. Instead, decent people have their freedom abridged.

Endless debates about fanciful "solutions" does not move the ball down the field. Nor does the positing of practically and legally unenforceable draconian fantasies, especially those formulated with absolutely no understanding of how firearms work, what the present status of the law is, and what the actual utility of firearms is.

Decent people should not be deprived of the efficacious means of self defense because criminals misuse firearms.

What should we be doing to criminals to prevent them from misusing firearms and otherwise committing violent crimes?

This all or nothing argument is what got is where we are. You don’t get to tell me I don’t get to have a conversation about how to protect myself from a dangerous thing just because I don’t understand the inner workings of it.

Guns need more common sense regulation, not less. More restrictions on purchasing, ownership, usage, storage, and fitness of the owner. Decent people who want to ensure only decent people have access to dangerous weapons will surely want to have a respectful and reasoned conversation with other citizens to make sure that we have safe and effective laws that keep guns from criminals.

Respectful and reasoned. "Common sense." Safe and effective. Of course.

DC has at least the following gun laws:

1. All firearms must be registered.
2. Unlawful to possess unregistered firearm.
3. Unlawful to possess ammunition without registered firearm. No purchase of ammunition without registration certificate.
4. Lengthy list of banned long guns by name and/or characteristics.
5. Specified list of handguns allowed -- no "Saturday Night Specials."
6. Unlawful to carry firearm openly.
7. Unlawful to carry pistol without a license.
8. Training with actual target exam required for license.
9. Places where licensed pistol can be carried highly restricted.
10. Ammunition carried with licensed pistol extremely limited.
11. No open or vehicular long gun carry.
12. No possession of firearms or ammunition by minors, prohibited persons (felons, drug users, violent mentally ill). Straw purchases unlawful.
13. No private sale of firearms. Only one licensed dealer in the City. No out of state, internet or mail order sales.
14. Prepurchase safety training.
15. Background check on all purchases, including mental health records.
16. Longstanding (at least the 1970's) limit to 10 round magazine capacity.
17. Negligent firearm use unlawful
18. Criminal firearm use unlawful.
19. Use of firearm in crime of violence, drug crime, etc., unlawful.
20. Discharge of firearms (other than self defense) prohibited in DC.

If all of these have failed to prevent criminal violence, what will do that, as opposed to sounding good or making someone "feel" safer while doing nothing to punish or deter the ruthless thugs who seem to act with impunity in the face of all existing restrictions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would have assumed an accident. Calm down.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would have assumed an accident. Calm down.

+1

Same. I don’t see how tearing up at cop cars zooming by is in any way a reasonable reaction. Unless you have anxiety. But actually I do (and am medicated), and still wouldn’t think there was a mass shooting happening close by.

[Anonymous]

Our neighboring middle school (in Indiana) had a shooting last year and I saw the police heading to the school. I would think the same OP. Sandy Hook happened the year before my oldest started kindergarten. I hug my school aged kids tight every morning, and my first thought at the beginning of each school year is how far a gunman would have to go to get into their classrooms upon entering a building.

[Anonymous]

I’ve had similar experiences. It’s horrible to worry every day that your kids are going to get shot. I grew up near one of the mass shooting sights.

We have to make hard choices as a nation. This coming election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any shotgun can be a deadly weapon if misused.

A person can literally make the ammunition for a black powder firearm at home.

How does registering any firearm prevent crime? If it is so effective, why has DC had so much violent crime when it has had gun registration since the 70's?

The fundamental premise of "gun control " uniformly is that more and more laws somehow will result in less crime, but that never happens because, by definition, criminals do not obey the law. Instead, decent people have their freedom abridged.

Endless debates about fanciful "solutions" does not move the ball down the field. Nor does the positing of practically and legally unenforceable draconian fantasies, especially those formulated with absolutely no understanding of how firearms work, what the present status of the law is, and what the actual utility of firearms is.

Decent people should not be deprived of the efficacious means of self defense because criminals misuse firearms.

What should we be doing to criminals to prevent them from misusing firearms and otherwise committing violent crimes?

This all or nothing argument is what got is where we are. You don’t get to tell me I don’t get to have a conversation about how to protect myself from a dangerous thing just because I don’t understand the inner workings of it.

Guns need more common sense regulation, not less. More restrictions on purchasing, ownership, usage, storage, and fitness of the owner. Decent people who want to ensure only decent people have access to dangerous weapons will surely want to have a respectful and reasoned conversation with other citizens to make sure that we have safe and effective laws that keep guns from criminals.

Respectful and reasoned. "Common sense." Safe and effective. Of course.

DC has at least the following gun laws:

1. All firearms must be registered.
2. Unlawful to possess unregistered firearm.
3. Unlawful to possess ammunition without registered firearm. No purchase of ammunition without registration certificate.
4. Lengthy list of banned long guns by name and/or characteristics.
5. Specified list of handguns allowed -- no "Saturday Night Specials."
6. Unlawful to carry firearm openly.
7. Unlawful to carry pistol without a license.
8. Training with actual target exam required for license.
9. Places where licensed pistol can be carried highly restricted.
10. Ammunition carried with licensed pistol extremely limited.
11. No open or vehicular long gun carry.
12. No possession of firearms or ammunition by minors, prohibited persons (felons, drug users, violent mentally ill). Straw purchases unlawful.
13. No private sale of firearms. Only one licensed dealer in the City. No out of state, internet or mail order sales.
14. Prepurchase safety training.
15. Background check on all purchases, including mental health records.
16. Longstanding (at least the 1970's) limit to 10 round magazine capacity.
17. Negligent firearm use unlawful
18. Criminal firearm use unlawful.
19. Use of firearm in crime of violence, drug crime, etc., unlawful.
20. Discharge of firearms (other than self defense) prohibited in DC.

If all of these have failed to prevent criminal violence, what will do that, as opposed to sounding good or making someone "feel" safer while doing nothing to punish or deter the ruthless thugs who seem to act with impunity in the face of all existing restrictions?

Dc has less criminal violence than many cities.

What are you producing as the alternative?

[Anonymous]

We need stricter gun regulations on high powered rifles, extended magazines, and background checks as well as prison time for any gun owner who doesn’t have his firearm locked.

Although I would also not be the least bit opposed to repealing the 2nd Amendment. I am tired of worry about my baby getting shot.

[Anonymous]

Repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Gun owners have been so ridiculous and uncompromising that they deserve to lose the right completely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When you hear hoofbeats think horses and not zebras

Good point, unless you’re in a safari.

If you live in the only country in the world where mass shootings of kids are common, then it would make sense to worry about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Gun owners have been so ridiculous and uncompromising that they deserve to lose the right completely.

Can you explain your thoughts here? Thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Over react much? A mass shooting was your first thought? Amazing.

OP I had a similar feeling when driving towards our neighborhood pool, behind a ambulance. I thought for sure it was going to turn into the pool and someone kids was going to be gravely ill. The pool/drowning fear is to be expected- the fear of mass shooting is not something we should have to consider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Gun owners have been so ridiculous and uncompromising that they deserve to lose the right completely.

Completely agree.