We shouldn’t have to live this way.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:But you do need therapy.


No she doesn’t. You need to wake the f up.
Anonymous
We do not have to continue living like this. All we have to do is vote for candidates who support gun laws like they have in other first world nations. Make it the most important issue. Vote as if your child’s life depended on it because it well might.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Liberal hysterical, more concerned about my kids being passed over because of illegals and afirmative action



God, you are pathetic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Who is the “we” you’re referring to? Weepy, over-sensitive, liberal soccer moms? Most normal people don’t live this way.


Go back to your “stories” on Fox News, Fool. I am done with functional idiots like you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The point is that OP's reaction is not an irrational fear. 1,165 people were killed in mass shootings; 189 were children or teenagers.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/national/mass-shootings-in-america/?utm_term=.5dd6509d600f

It's irrational that people are so unwilling to do anything about it except encourage active shooter drills and arming teachers.


From your link, that was over a 53 year span of time. That is 21 people a year.

It is irrational if you start crying over something that affect 21 people a year instead of assuming car accidents since they kill an average of 100 people a day.
Anonymous
It’s not at all irrational. It is simply life in America in 2019.

We have to change.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A mass shooting would be my first thought too. For my parents, that thought never would have entered their minds.

Yes. We need to change.


If things didn’t change when a bunch of kindergarteners were shot dead at sandy hook, I am 100% convinced they never will.
Anonymous
Ignore the gun-fetishists. They are truly a dying minority.

Work to change the laws or repeal the 2nd amendment.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:A mass shooting would be my first thought too. For my parents, that thought never would have entered their minds.

Yes. We need to change.


If things didn’t change when a bunch of kindergarteners were shot dead at sandy hook, I am 100% convinced they never will.


They will. The kids who have been doing live shooter drills and see their fellow high schoolers being mowed down are voting now. The NRA is rotting from within. What used to be the proverbial third rail in political campaigns for Democrats is now being heralded as a campaign promise.

Vote out anyone soft on very strict gun control.
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Anonymous wrote:A mass shooting would be my first thought too. For my parents, that thought never would have entered their minds.

Yes. We need to change.


If things didn’t change when a bunch of kindergarteners were shot dead at sandy hook, I am 100% convinced they never will.


They will. The kids who have been doing live shooter drills and see their fellow high schoolers being mowed down are voting now. The NRA is rotting from within. What used to be the proverbial third rail in political campaigns for Democrats is now being heralded as a campaign promise.

Vote out anyone soft on very strict gun control.


With two little ones going to school soon, this gives me hope, thank you.
Anonymous
Vote out anyone soft on very strict gun control.


What would you say was adequately strict?
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I respect gun ownership, but I draw the line when gun owners believe their right to own weapons trumps anybody else’s right to personal safety and freedom, and frankly I believe that’s where things have has gone in the last decade. I don’t think the second amendment is more important than any other amendment.

I think we both agree on the bolded but are looking at it from different angles. I would like to own a firearm for home defense and the second amendment guarantees that that right shall not be infringed. Not to say that I'm drawing a line in the sand, but my freedoms should be as respected as yours and should not be changed because you disagree.

I support mandatory mental health screenings for gun owners.

100% agreement.

I believe assault weapons should be banned. There is no reason for ordinary citizens to own these weapons. I believe service members should be required to return them upon leaving the service.

Assault weapons are illegal (and should be). They are defined as weapons with variable rates of fire, both burst and fully automatic modes. Outside of very rare circumstances, they are illegal to be owned by the public. An AR-15 is not an assault weapon. The AR does not stand for Assault Rifle, it stands for ArmaLite, the company that designed it. It is a semi-automatic rifle that, admittedly, is a bit intimidating looking but semi-automatic rifles have been around since the late 1800's. Dick's Sporting Goods, which did quite a bit of posturing about the guns they sold, still allows you to buy semi-automatic rifles online. https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/remington-597-semi-automatic-rifle-package-3-9x32mm-scope-15rema597blckwscprif And as far as I'm aware, service members must surrender firearms when discharged.

I believe there should be a heavy tax on gun ownership over a certain number. Personally i do not think that people should be able to stockpile weapons, but can’t imagine legislation passing that would restrict the number of weapons people could own, so this is a workaround.

Yeah, stockpiling has a real negative connotation, but I agree if your view of it is a stockroom full of weapons. If you pheasant hunt and goose hunt and like to spend time at the trap and skeet ranges, you could end up with 4 or 5 shotguns easily. If you hunt larger game and like to target shoot, two or three rifles isn't out of the question. And a sidearm if you're going to be in bear country. I know it sounds like a lot, but 10 firearms isn't really that much of a stretch... especially with how difficult it is to sell them when you upgrade. As for the taxing of that? Perhaps a tax that is assessed annually/biennially unless you can provide a certificate of training recertification from an accredited vendor. *shrug* I don't know... interesting concept.

No one should be able to have an unsecured or concealed weapon on their person unless they are licensed law-enforcement officer.

I disagree with this, but I will concede that there must be serious need, training and evaluation to obtain a permit. Also annual review of those with permits.


Until mental health screening and licensing and securing of weapons is universally enforced, I don’t believe there should be open carry in this country.


Fair enough, but I don't think that the incidents that bring gun control to the foreground are typically by people with licensed firearms.

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Anonymous wrote:Over react much? A mass shooting was your first thought? Amazing.


Such a ridiculous response. You must be a trump supporter.


Sure, I must be. Or, maybe, I’d think car wreck, heart attack, lost kid, etc. you know, the stuff that normal people think of.


You are not normal, OP, nor do you know how normal people think. Our children have mass shooter drills in their schools. CPR classes now include how to stop bleeding from gun shot wounds.


Normal people don’t tear up over cop cars going down the road.


if they live in the us, it is totally normal to tear up at the sound of police sirens as it’s sadly totally normal to connect that w gun violence
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Anonymous wrote:Over react much? A mass shooting was your first thought? Amazing.


Not an overreaction. My DS is twelve and so far we have dealt with a rumor (thankfully false) of a gun threat, and when he was in preschool, he had to be evacuated due to a bomb threat (also thankfully unfounded).


Not an overreaction?? Both examples you gave were...overreactions.

OP, you are paranoid. The media sensationalizes shootings. There have been 15 school shootings (of those, 4 were university)in the US this year and there are over 132,000 k-12 schools. That puts the odds of a mass shorting happening at your child's school closer to zero than pretty much any other bad thing that could happen.
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Anonymous wrote:

I respect gun ownership, but I draw the line when gun owners believe their right to own weapons trumps anybody else’s right to personal safety and freedom, and frankly I believe that’s where things have has gone in the last decade. I don’t think the second amendment is more important than any other amendment.

I think we both agree on the bolded but are looking at it from different angles. I would like to own a firearm for home defense and the second amendment guarantees that that right shall not be infringed. Not to say that I'm drawing a line in the sand, but my freedoms should be as respected as yours and should not be changed because you disagree.

I take your point, but hope you will allow that the wide interpretation of the 2nd amendment is NOT in line with what the founders envisioned, based on the weapons they had at the time.

I support mandatory mental health screenings for gun owners.

100% agreement.



I believe assault weapons should be banned. There is no reason for ordinary citizens to own these weapons. I believe service members should be required to return them upon leaving the service.

Assault weapons are illegal (and should be). They are defined as weapons with variable rates of fire, both burst and fully automatic modes. Outside of very rare circumstances, they are illegal to be owned by the public. An AR-15 is not an assault weapon. The AR does not stand for Assault Rifle, it stands for ArmaLite, the company that designed it. It is a semi-automatic rifle that, admittedly, is a bit intimidating looking but semi-automatic rifles have been around since the late 1800's. Dick's Sporting Goods, which did quite a bit of posturing about the guns they sold, still allows you to buy semi-automatic rifles online. https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/remington-597-semi-automatic-rifle-package-3-9x32mm-scope-15rema597blckwscprif And as far as I'm aware, service members must surrender firearms when discharged.


I think anything that makes it easy to file multiple rounds quickly should be banned from the common cotsrn possession.

I believe there should be a heavy tax on gun ownership over a certain number. Personally i do not think that people should be able to stockpile weapons, but can’t imagine legislation passing that would restrict the number of weapons people could own, so this is a workaround.

Yeah, stockpiling has a real negative connotation, but I agree if your view of it is a stockroom full of weapons. If you pheasant hunt and goose hunt and like to spend time at the trap and skeet ranges, you could end up with 4 or 5 shotguns easily. If you hunt larger game and like to target shoot, two or three rifles isn't out of the question. And a sidearm if you're going to be in bear country. I know it sounds like a lot, but 10 firearms isn't really that much of a stretch... especially with how difficult it is to sell them when you upgrade. As for the taxing of that? Perhaps a tax that is assessed annually/biennially unless you can provide a certificate of training recertification from an accredited vendor. *shrug* I don't know... interesting concept.

No one should be able to have an unsecured or concealed weapon on their person unless they are licensed law-enforcement officer.

I disagree with this, but I will concede that there must be serious need, training and evaluation to obtain a permit. Also annual review of those with permits.


I can allow there may be reasons for some people to have this right but until we have very strict enforcement I would be still be in favor.

Until mental health screening and licensing and securing of weapons is universally enforced, I don’t believe there should be open carry in this country.


Fair enough, but I don't think that the incidents that bring gun control to the foreground are typically by people with licensed firearms.

I think some open carry states are very lax in their regulation and this leads to troubling potential for abuse of the ability to own carry. Also to bullying and to stupidity.

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