Are the rates posted on the nanny forums accurate?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not a very transparent wage market and therefore there are a lot of inconsistencies in the wages earned, and generally poor correlation between skills and pay. That said, $15/hr is crap wages in this area.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s comical about this thread are the ppl making so many excuses to justify their $15/hr pay. You’re arguing to prove that by paying $15/hr you are getting the best care and no one can possibly spend more on childcare. Do you fight this hard when families are willing to pay more for daycare or ask daycare centers why they charge more than the one you settled on. Either you are willing to pay for a certain nanny or you aren’t. Some families care more about a nanny simplying being able to change a diaper.

I'd say what's comical contorting themselves into believing they are getting something better because it is more expensive due to added bells and whistles that are unnecessary for the job.

Since greater education is clearly imperative to a nannies qualifications, why are you being so cheap and limiting it to an undergrad degree? There are tons of JDs in town and if you really wanted the best for young Thaddeus, you should be willing to pay the hundreds of dollars per hour to get top flight credentials.

Spoken just like someone who hasn’t experienced the best of probably anything.

Actually the problem is the exact opposite. Because I went to some of the best universities in the country, I was not exposed to offerings such as The Fluid Dynamics of Bottle Feeding, Post-Modern Feminist Analysis of Brown Bear, Brown Bear and other works of Eric Carle, and The Role of Peek-a-boo in Cold War US Foreign Policy.

If I had realized these and similar offerings were an important part of the college education on many campuses, I would recognize the value that a college degree would bring to a nanny. I will not let me children get suckered into the purported benefits of the Ivy League.

Ok

What a witty and substantively devastating retort.

Ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. The Nanny Forum Trolls have invaded this thread.

Reality:
-nanny pay depends dramatically on area of the country.
-The DMV is one of the three most expensive places in the entire US for childcare.
-Some nannies will take $17/hr
-Most nannies make 17-25/hr, esp in DC/Arlington/Bethesda. Rates in PG, Howard, Loudon are lower than in the very high housing cost areas.
-if your nanny talks to other nannies, and they are paid more than your nanny, your nanny will be unhappy. Nanny play dates can be a place where this happens.

Nannies also talk in the parks and playgrounds. Do you make your nanny stay in the house all day?

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$10./Hour and uniforms mandatory. Don’t allow nanny to look you in the eye. Refuse to speak nanny’s language, especially if that is your first language.

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Anonymous wrote:The nanny salaries posts are kind of like the money and finance forum. Everyone makes a huge salary of 30$/hr plus 8 weeks of paid vacation, health care and a car. Just like $300K/year is poor in the money and finance forum. Use the information with care.

Nanny here. I do earn $28 an hour with full healthcare and a great car (Lexus 350). Two weeks vacation - I have never met any nanny who get eight weeks, btw. I am anAmerican, a college graduate, and have teaching experience.

I would not consider you a typical nanny due to your teaching experience nor do you receive a typical compensation package. You also didn’t post where you work or your job duties. Is the car yours or the nanny car?

Then you don’t know much about qualified nannies and why they can earn a good package. For nannies that are actually qualified, professional, and excellent this is most definitely a typical package.

DP. Then by your definition most nannies are not qualified. Very few nannies are American, have a college degree, and have teaching experience. That simply is not the norm. The typical nanny - who will not have the same qualifications - will not surprisingly earn less.

Duh.

Hence why it’s laughable when ppl claim their $15/hr nanny is so amazing.

No, it's laughable that you think a nanny can only be amazing if she is American, has a degree, and has teaching experience. Those are not the things I would necessarily look for in a nanny for a baby or toddler.

Why would you? If all you can afford is the nanny who doesn’t speak English with limited experience then that’s what you settle for. When you are offering $15/hr you aren’t meeting the top of the chain.

Where did I say I couldn't afford more? I said those "qualifications" aren't the most important when I look for a nanny.

I could afford a Maserati, but being able to reach 120 mph in seconds, is not what I look for in a car so I have something that is less expensive.

This is such BS. You look for a foreign born nanny who isn’t a citizen and who isn’t educated just so you can have her over a barrel - she’ll work for cheap, you can work her extra hours for no pay, have her do a lot of chores around your house. You couldn’t afford a Maserati and you can’t afford a nanny, but you want a Slavs and you want your vacations that you can barely afford to happen.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s comical about this thread are the ppl making so many excuses to justify their $15/hr pay. You’re arguing to prove that by paying $15/hr you are getting the best care and no one can possibly spend more on childcare. Do you fight this hard when families are willing to pay more for daycare or ask daycare centers why they charge more than the one you settled on. Either you are willing to pay for a certain nanny or you aren’t. Some families care more about a nanny simplying being able to change a diaper.

I'd say what's comical contorting themselves into believing they are getting something better because it is more expensive due to added bells and whistles that are unnecessary for the job.

Since greater education is clearly imperative to a nannies qualifications, why are you being so cheap and limiting it to an undergrad degree? There are tons of JDs in town and if you really wanted the best for young Thaddeus, you should be willing to pay the hundreds of dollars per hour to get top flight credentials.

Spoken just like someone who hasn’t experienced the best of probably anything.

Actually the problem is the exact opposite. Because I went to some of the best universities in the country, I was not exposed to offerings such as The Fluid Dynamics of Bottle Feeding, Post-Modern Feminist Analysis of Brown Bear, Brown Bear and other works of Eric Carle, and The Role of Peek-a-boo in Cold War US Foreign Policy.

If I had realized these and similar offerings were an important part of the college education on many campuses, I would recognize the value that a college degree would bring to a nanny. I will not let me children get suckered into the purported benefits of the Ivy League.

I wonder why many people look for a similarly educated spouse to couple up with? I wonder why then some of those highly educated mothers and sometimes fathers take some time off to spend easing their young children? Why is that? It sounds like this is not something that you know as you are not one of these people.

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Anonymous wrote:The nanny salaries posts are kind of like the money and finance forum. Everyone makes a huge salary of 30$/hr plus 8 weeks of paid vacation, health care and a car. Just like $300K/year is poor in the money and finance forum. Use the information with care.

Nanny here. I do earn $28 an hour with full healthcare and a great car (Lexus 350). Two weeks vacation - I have never met any nanny who get eight weeks, btw. I am anAmerican, a college graduate, and have teaching experience.

I would not consider you a typical nanny due to your teaching experience nor do you receive a typical compensation package. You also didn’t post where you work or your job duties. Is the car yours or the nanny car?

Then you don’t know much about qualified nannies and why they can earn a good package. For nannies that are actually qualified, professional, and excellent this is most definitely a typical package.

DP. Then by your definition most nannies are not qualified. Very few nannies are American, have a college degree, and have teaching experience. That simply is not the norm. The typical nanny - who will not have the same qualifications - will not surprisingly earn less.

Duh.

Hence why it’s laughable when ppl claim their $15/hr nanny is so amazing.

No, it's laughable that you think a nanny can only be amazing if she is American, has a degree, and has teaching experience. Those are not the things I would necessarily look for in a nanny for a baby or toddler.

Why would you? If all you can afford is the nanny who doesn’t speak English with limited experience then that’s what you settle for. When you are offering $15/hr you aren’t meeting the top of the chain.

Where did I say I couldn't afford more? I said those "qualifications" aren't the most important when I look for a nanny.

I could afford a Maserati, but being able to reach 120 mph in seconds, is not what I look for in a car so I have something that is less expensive.

This is such BS. You look for a foreign born nanny who isn’t a citizen and who isn’t educated just so you can have her over a barrel - she’ll work for cheap, you can work her extra hours for no pay, have her do a lot of chores around your house. You couldn’t afford a Maserati and you can’t afford a nanny, but you want a Slavs and you want your vacations that you can barely afford to happen.

NP. There are multiple parents who hire nannies posting on this forum and you’re determined to continue with your uninformed rants to justify a very high wage for nannies despite what people who are actually hiring nannies say. This is part of the reason Jeff had nanny issues in a separate forum. And you’re showing why the answer to OP’s question is “No, the rates posted on this forum are not accurate.”

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Anonymous wrote:What’s comical about this thread are the ppl making so many excuses to justify their $15/hr pay. You’re arguing to prove that by paying $15/hr you are getting the best care and no one can possibly spend more on childcare. Do you fight this hard when families are willing to pay more for daycare or ask daycare centers why they charge more than the one you settled on. Either you are willing to pay for a certain nanny or you aren’t. Some families care more about a nanny simplying being able to change a diaper.

I'd say what's comical contorting themselves into believing they are getting something better because it is more expensive due to added bells and whistles that are unnecessary for the job.

Since greater education is clearly imperative to a nannies qualifications, why are you being so cheap and limiting it to an undergrad degree? There are tons of JDs in town and if you really wanted the best for young Thaddeus, you should be willing to pay the hundreds of dollars per hour to get top flight credentials.

Spoken just like someone who hasn’t experienced the best of probably anything.

Actually the problem is the exact opposite. Because I went to some of the best universities in the country, I was not exposed to offerings such as The Fluid Dynamics of Bottle Feeding, Post-Modern Feminist Analysis of Brown Bear, Brown Bear and other works of Eric Carle, and The Role of Peek-a-boo in Cold War US Foreign Policy.

If I had realized these and similar offerings were an important part of the college education on many campuses, I would recognize the value that a college degree would bring to a nanny. I will not let me children get suckered into the purported benefits of the Ivy League.

I wonder why many people look for a similarly educated spouse to couple up with? I wonder why then some of those highly educated mothers and sometimes fathers take some time off to spend raising their young children? Why is that? It sounds like this is not something that you know as you are not one of these people.

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Anonymous wrote:The nanny salaries posts are kind of like the money and finance forum. Everyone makes a huge salary of 30$/hr plus 8 weeks of paid vacation, health care and a car. Just like $300K/year is poor in the money and finance forum. Use the information with care.

Nanny here. I do earn $28 an hour with full healthcare and a great car (Lexus 350). Two weeks vacation - I have never met any nanny who get eight weeks, btw. I am anAmerican, a college graduate, and have teaching experience.

I would not consider you a typical nanny due to your teaching experience nor do you receive a typical compensation package. You also didn’t post where you work or your job duties. Is the car yours or the nanny car?

Then you don’t know much about qualified nannies and why they can earn a good package. For nannies that are actually qualified, professional, and excellent this is most definitely a typical package.

DP. Then by your definition most nannies are not qualified. Very few nannies are American, have a college degree, and have teaching experience. That simply is not the norm. The typical nanny - who will not have the same qualifications - will not surprisingly earn less.

Duh.

Hence why it’s laughable when ppl claim their $15/hr nanny is so amazing.

No, it's laughable that you think a nanny can only be amazing if she is American, has a degree, and has teaching experience. Those are not the things I would necessarily look for in a nanny for a baby or toddler.

Why would you? If all you can afford is the nanny who doesn’t speak English with limited experience then that’s what you settle for. When you are offering $15/hr you aren’t meeting the top of the chain.

Where did I say I couldn't afford more? I said those "qualifications" aren't the most important when I look for a nanny.

I could afford a Maserati, but being able to reach 120 mph in seconds, is not what I look for in a car so I have something that is less expensive.

This is such BS. You look for a foreign born nanny who isn’t a citizen and who isn’t educated just so you can have her over a barrel - she’ll work for cheap, you can work her extra hours for no pay, have her do a lot of chores around your house. You couldn’t afford a Maserati and you can’t afford a nanny, but you want a Slavs and you want your vacations that you can barely afford to happen.

Foreign born and non-citizen are hardly synonymous. Nor do you have to be a citizen to legally work in the US, which affords other, nom-exploitative options. And the main point of contention seems to be whether a college degree is important with nationality being secondary.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rates posted on the nanny forum accurate? I'll need a nanny in the next few months and I'm not really sure what to offer. On care.com most people state their salary range as $15-25 but on the nanny forums people are asking for at least $20-50. What's a good rate for a fairly experienced nanny? I'm not really looking for some with tons of education but more a loving, caring person that'll show up on time and take good care of my kid. First time mom here so I have no idea.

It depends what kind of experience you want. Most parents really don’t know what they want. They themselves have no experience to speak of.

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Anonymous wrote:The nanny salaries posts are kind of like the money and finance forum. Everyone makes a huge salary of 30$/hr plus 8 weeks of paid vacation, health care and a car. Just like $300K/year is poor in the money and finance forum. Use the information with care.

+1. Just read through the posts and you’ll see how biased and low the traffic is on the site. Parent posters are ridiculed constantly.

Bc the majority of them should be looking into daycare instead of trying to find a cheap nanny.

Yet somehow these "poors" manage to employ nannies at the prevailing market rate. I looked at the nanny forums when I was first hiring my nanny years ago, and found it completely out of touch with reality. Now Jeff has allowed nanny posts back on the main DCUM site, and the vocal outliers have found their way over here.

Yes bc these “poors” are entitled and believe they should have a nanny bc the actual wealthy have one. Sorry you feel like you need a nanny but nannies are for the wealthy. They’ve never been for the middle class. Nannies are a luxury that few can actually afford. Only “poors” refer to a market rate and believe anyone who pays more must be lying. “Poors” also like to justify their low pay. They want to claim their nanny is so great and smart. Why would a so called smart and qualified nanny work for $15/hr when they can make more? These “poors” also like to complain about how their nanny keeps quitting, is watching tv, on the phone, comes late, etc. Of course they are, you saved money and hired incompetent help. Every nanny I’ve met that made $15/hr were either very young and had no idea how to handle children or couldn’t speak English.

Well, I've had the same nanny for 7 years, and she is wonderful, and thankfully seems happy working for me. She doesn't have a college degree, and she's foreign born, and she's an exceptional nanny, referred to me by a colleague who recommended her as an exceptional caregiver. One does not need a college degree to care about children, be reliable, timely and competent.

College degree helps with wage. Of course your nanny is happy, she is a foreigner with no degree making minimum wage.

How does a college degree help a nanny better feed or diaper a baby? Or watch a toddler at the park? Or read to a child, etc?

And why do you view a foreign nannies ability to expose a child to another language a negative?

The same way a college degree helps with anything. Ask other parents why they put in their ad, college degree desirable.

Never said exposure to another language was a bad thing. So maybe read and don’t try to put words there that aren’t.

As with any job, you want to appear professional for the family you are trying to attract. For the $15/hr family this isn’t important, but, who wants to try to live off of $15/hr? All I’m saying is that while you may feel $15/hr is great and the norm, it’s simply not. It’s the norm for those who cannot afford the more experienced and qualified nanny. The norm for me and the nannies I know is much higher with a different type of family. And no I don’t make $30/hr unless I’m working a nanny share.

You're mixing up many concepts in your idea of "qualified." Yes, fluent English speakers make more than those who are non-native English speakers, but that doesn't make someone qualified to take care of a child. You're also conflating lack of a degree with lack of qualifications. One might want a nanny with a college degree for an older child if you want someone to help with homework, but most people hire nannies when their children are babies, and are looking for a warm and reliable person, not someone with years of child pedagogy classes. Many of the "foreigners' you criticize come from families where taking care of kids is the norm, and are extremely experienced with children of all ages.

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I actually prefer nanny who can speak my mother tongues. I don’t care if nanny can spake English. I do not want nanny to speak English to my kid. So fluent in English or a born and raise American nanny are actually not my preference. (Not because discrimination or want cheaper rate, but I do want a live in nanny whom my kids to speak my mother tongues, eat foreign food that we eat. It’s just easier for a live in situation. ) I want to point out that there are a lot of great nanny who speaks perfect English. ybut there are also a lot of great nannies who do not flunt in English .

Nanny s rate is determined by demand and supply.
Personal I actually find it easier to find flunt English speaking nanny then nanny who can speaks my preferred language. I actually willing to pay more of their language skill, their ability to cook my home country food than being flunt in English.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s comical about this thread are the ppl making so many excuses to justify their $15/hr pay. You’re arguing to prove that by paying $15/hr you are getting the best care and no one can possibly spend more on childcare. Do you fight this hard when families are willing to pay more for daycare or ask daycare centers why they charge more than the one you settled on. Either you are willing to pay for a certain nanny or you aren’t. Some families care more about a nanny simplying being able to change a diaper.

I'd say what's comical contorting themselves into believing they are getting something better because it is more expensive due to added bells and whistles that are unnecessary for the job.

Since greater education is clearly imperative to a nannies qualifications, why are you being so cheap and limiting it to an undergrad degree? There are tons of JDs in town and if you really wanted the best for young Thaddeus, you should be willing to pay the hundreds of dollars per hour to get top flight credentials.

Spoken just like someone who hasn’t experienced the best of probably anything.

Actually the problem is the exact opposite. Because I went to some of the best universities in the country, I was not exposed to offerings such as The Fluid Dynamics of Bottle Feeding, Post-Modern Feminist Analysis of Brown Bear, Brown Bear and other works of Eric Carle, and The Role of Peek-a-boo in Cold War US Foreign Policy.

If I had realized these and similar offerings were an important part of the college education on many campuses, I would recognize the value that a college degree would bring to a nanny. I will not let me children get suckered into the purported benefits of the Ivy League.

I wonder why many people look for a similarly educated spouse to couple up with? I wonder why then some of those highly educated mothers and sometimes fathers take some time off to spend easing their young children? Why is that? It sounds like this is not something that you know as you are not one of these people.

Your response is completely illogical. People often want a spouse of a similar background because it is the person you will spend your life with and, among other things, you are looking for intellectual stimulation and compatibility. Spending 60 years with someone who can't keep you intellectually stimulated would get very boring. I'm not looking to be intellectually stimulated by my nanny and it is a much shorter term relationship. What it takes to provide adequate stimulation to a baby or toddler is very different.

As for parents staying home, people do it for a host of reasons, usually related to wanting to have time to bond. Maybe some do it to provide a better educated caregiver to their kid, but that's hardly a common reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rates posted on the nanny forum accurate? I'll need a nanny in the next few months and I'm not really sure what to offer. On care.com most people state their salary range as $15-25 but on the nanny forums people are asking for at least $20-50. What's a good rate for a fairly experienced nanny? I'm not really looking for some with tons of education but more a loving, caring person that'll show up on time and take good care of my kid. First time mom here so I have no idea.

It depends what kind of experience you want. Most parents really don’t know what they want. They themselves have no experience to speak of.

That's true. The posters who seem to think that a college degree is critical are largely speaking out of ignorance and a weird version of FOMO.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rates posted on the nanny forum accurate? I'll need a nanny in the next few months and I'm not really sure what to offer. On care.com most people state their salary range as $15-25 but on the nanny forums people are asking for at least $20-50. What's a good rate for a fairly experienced nanny? I'm not really looking for some with tons of education but more a loving, caring person that'll show up on time and take good care of my kid. First time mom here so I have no idea.

It depends what kind of experience you want. Most parents really don’t know what they want. They themselves have no experience to speak of.

That's true. The posters who seem to think that a college degree is critical are largely speaking out of ignorance and a weird version of FOMO.

Exactly. This is what your babies and young children need more than anything:

1. Stability
2. Competence
3. Love

I learned this from a wise pediatrician. She was 100% correct. Without all three, you shouldn’t be surprised when there are consequences down the road.

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Anonymous wrote:Are the rates posted on the nanny forum accurate? I'll need a nanny in the next few months and I'm not really sure what to offer. On care.com most people state their salary range as $15-25 but on the nanny forums people are asking for at least $20-50. What's a good rate for a fairly experienced nanny? I'm not really looking for some with tons of education but more a loving, caring person that'll show up on time and take good care of my kid. First time mom here so I have no idea.

It depends what kind of experience you want. Most parents really don’t know what they want. They themselves have no experience to speak of.

That's true. The posters who seem to think that a college degree is critical are largely speaking out of ignorance and a weird version of FOMO.

Exactly. This is what your babies and young children need more than anything:

1. Stability
2. Competence
3. Love

I learned this from a wise pediatrician. She was 100% correct. Without all three, you shouldn’t be surprised when there are consequences down the road.

Then stay at home instead of outsourcing.