Leaving Neverland new documentary on Michael Jackson

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Anonymous wrote:If he were innocent, why did he pay one kid's family $20+ million to settle out of court? Way too much smoke for no fire.

I 100% believe he was a pedophile.

Because all that family wanted was money. If their son was molested, why did that family accept money instead of ensuring their son’s absuer was punished??

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Anonymous wrote:No amount of money would sway me from prosecuting to the full extent of the law, if someone ever abused my child. I won't be watching it.

Exactly!

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Anonymous wrote:I was prepared to think these guys were lying, but they seem authentic. This is very disturbing since I have an 8 year old boy, and feel horrible having believed MJ was innocent.

Yep same. These guys are completely believable. And as someone else said, of course he is a molestor. No normal person spends alone time with a child. Disgusting.

I was thinking the same. When the mother was talking about the hours on the phone???? I didn't spend hours talking to the 7 year old boy I gave birth to! I wonder if those boys were ever able to forgive their parents for failing them in such a big way. I don't know that I could forgive myself!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why about Macaulay? He has constantly defended him as these accusations came to light.

If he tells the truth he risks being called a liar and making himself and his parents look like star struck idiots for allowing it to happen and continue. Wade Robson and James Safechuck decided to risk it, Macaulay hasn't, but maybe now he will.

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#mutemichaeljackson

Has this started yet? It has been used for R Kelly. (Not sure if those that started it for R Kelly would mind if it is also used for Jackson?)

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He slept in the beds of little boys?!? C’mon that is not normal behavior. He also had an alarm system to alert if people were approaching bedroom. Wake up people.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was prepared to think these guys were lying, but they seem authentic. This is very disturbing since I have an 8 year old boy, and feel horrible having believed MJ was innocent.

Yep same. These guys are completely believable. And as someone else said, of course he is a molestor. No normal person spends alone time with a child. Disgusting.

I was thinking the same. When the mother was talking about the hours on the phone???? I didn't spend hours talking to the 7 year old boy I gave birth to! I wonder if those boys were ever able to forgive their parents for failing them in such a big way. I don't know that I could forgive myself!

2 of the fathers died of suicide. Heartbreaking.

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Anonymous wrote:Why about Macaulay? He has constantly defended him as these accusations came to light.

If he tells the truth he risks being called a liar and making himself and his parents look like star struck idiots for allowing it to happen and continue. Wade Robson and James Safechuck decided to risk it, Macaulay hasn't, but maybe now he will.

It’s possible Macaulay wasn’t molested. Same for Corey Feldman who continues to defend MJ while calling out other Hollywood pedos. Legitimate friendships with those two doesn’t negate other accusations.

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Anonymous wrote:Why about Macaulay? He has constantly defended him as these accusations came to light.

I thought this too, but maybe MJ knew the bigger names like Macaulay and Corey would be a bigger risk. If he kept them as close friends, he could keep abusing his side pieces while looking like an innocent manchild.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else just finish watching part 1? I feel sick.

Me too. I've loved Michael Jackson forever. I had a crush on him since 1970, bought "Off the Wall" the first day it was out, saw the Victory Tour. I wanted to believe that the outcome of the criminal trial was the end of it and got to the truth. I distrusted the prosecutor who's motives were suspect. But now, I can't deny it anymore. Michael Jackson was a monster.

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Anonymous wrote:Why about Macaulay? He has constantly defended him as these accusations came to light.

I thought this too, but maybe MJ knew the bigger names like Macaulay and Corey would be a bigger risk. If he kept them as close friends, he could keep abusing his side pieces while looking like an innocent manchild.

NP. This is a very good point. People assume that a molester is going to try to molest EVERY child in his orbit but that's not true. And having some "innocent friendships" that also looked like show-biz mentoring would be a logical cover and distraction from the relationships that were sexual. Plus the press would have been quicker to pick up and run with any whiff of molestation alleged by either of the young actors. Not so much with kids who, though they'd been in a commercial or imitated Jackson on stage, looked like mere, cute hangers-on.

I can't listen to Jackson's music any more. I wasn't a fan in the sense of having any records but his songs were the soundtrack to my HS and college years, always on every radio, at every party, etc. Ubiquitous. Still ALL over nostalgia radio, in stores, etc. today. I can separate artist from art in many cases but not his--no one can, I think, especially as he wrote or co-wrote so much of his material and sold his image so heavily. I only wish the comeuppance had happened while he was alive.

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I know this is terrible, and as a mother of a young boy now, I can't believe this ever went through my head, but on some level, I always knew MJ was guilty. But I thought it was innocent, playing doctor type guilt. Here's this man with the mental social age of an 8 year old thinking it's fun to compare penis sizes or talk about dirty stuff with his buddies. Maybe they'd masturbate together, but I believed in his mind he didn't realize he was going to far. I thought when he was on trial after the Bashir documentary, he maybe finally got it through his head that he wasn't a kid and couldn't be excused for it.

After hearing the vivid descriptions of the acts he performed on them, this wasn't normal playing doctor stuff. This was a perverted sick twisted man who knew exactly what he was doing and that it was completely wrong. I'm so angry at myself for giving him any credence whatsoever!

[Anonymous]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joevogel/2019/01/29/what-you-should-know-about-the-new-michael-jackson-documentary/

As someone who has done an enormous amount of research on the artist, interviewed many people who were close to him, and been granted access to a lot of private information, my assessment is that the evidence simply does not point to Michael Jackson’s guilt. In contrast to Robson and Safechuck’s revised accounts, there is a remarkable consistency to the way people who knew the artist speak of him—whether friends, family members, collaborators, fellow artists, recording engineers, attorneys, business associates, security guards, former spouses, his own children—people who knew him in every capacity imaginable. Michael, they say, was gentle, brilliant, sensitive, sometimes naive, sometimes childish, sometimes oblivious to perceptions. But none believe he was a child molester.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/joevogel/2019/01/29/what-you-should-know-about-the-new-michael-jackson-documentary/

As someone who has done an enormous amount of research on the artist, interviewed many people who were close to him, and been granted access to a lot of private information, my assessment is that the evidence simply does not point to Michael Jackson’s guilt. In contrast to Robson and Safechuck’s revised accounts, there is a remarkable consistency to the way people who knew the artist speak of him—whether friends, family members, collaborators, fellow artists, recording engineers, attorneys, business associates, security guards, former spouses, his own children—people who knew him in every capacity imaginable. Michael, they say, was gentle, brilliant, sensitive, sometimes naive, sometimes childish, sometimes oblivious to perceptions. But none believe he was a child molester.

This guy will lose a lot of credibility when he's proven wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/joevogel/2019/01/29/what-you-should-know-about-the-new-michael-jackson-documentary/

As someone who has done an enormous amount of research on the artist, interviewed many people who were close to him, and been granted access to a lot of private information, my assessment is that the evidence simply does not point to Michael Jackson’s guilt. In contrast to Robson and Safechuck’s revised accounts, there is a remarkable consistency to the way people who knew the artist speak of him—whether friends, family members, collaborators, fellow artists, recording engineers, attorneys, business associates, security guards, former spouses, his own children—people who knew him in every capacity imaginable. Michael, they say, was gentle, brilliant, sensitive, sometimes naive, sometimes childish, sometimes oblivious to perceptions. But none believe he was a child molester.

There is also a remarkable consistency to the stories his victims have told: how he groomed them, how he began molesting him, what the progression of sexual behaviors was.