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Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jeff Platenburg does not seem to understand One Fairfax at all. They really need to get a policy person on the boundaries and not just a construction expert.



DING DING DING We have a winner!

Platenburg treats kids like LEGO bricks.
Anonymous
I predict:

It’s going to pick up kids from OES and MWES and maybe some MRES. It will be a school with low FARMS. It will go as far south as the oakton post office. It will only grab kids that live east of 123 and west of 66 overpass. I suspect the older Blake Lane - near santinis will stay at OES the new build houses and the 3 smaller community townhome communities opposite side of the new builds.

So post office over to Blake Lane
Blake Lane to Sutton (Palmer, Hubbard, Edgelea, Sutton)
Sutton to 123
Courthouse Road to 123 (near the church)



Anonymous
All the apartments in Oakton are off Blake Lane.
Anonymous
So I checked if Oakton HS can handle this. Its capacity utilization is 131% as of 2018-2019 and projected to be 110% in 2023-24. The number of students will grow from 2733 to 2879, which seems a little too low, given some of Providence ES will be assigned to OHS.
Anonymous
No it won’t. All of this area, except for 30 SFH go to OHS currently
Anonymous
Sounded like they plan to reassign part of Providence in the county that goes to Fairfax HS to Oakton HS. Not sure those kids will end up at Blake Lane, but they'd end up at Oakton.
Anonymous
Make Oakton HS into Oakton Secondary? Facilities surely knows that the providence kids who go to the new Blake Lane School cannot be accomodated at Thoreau. So they have to go to Franklin or perhaps a new middle school within Oakton secondary??
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Make Oakton HS into Oakton Secondary? Facilities surely knows that the providence kids who go to the new Blake Lane School cannot be accomodated at Thoreau. So they have to go to Franklin or perhaps a new middle school within Oakton secondary??


It's crazy that kids who live so close to Lanier could get sent to Franklin. Maybe send them to Thoreau and some of the other kids moved to Thoreau back to Jackson.
Anonymous
It’s going to all be fine. It’s only a few kids that will be new bodies at OHS and TMS will take all OHS bound kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Make Oakton HS into Oakton Secondary? Facilities surely knows that the providence kids who go to the new Blake Lane School cannot be accomodated at Thoreau. So they have to go to Franklin or perhaps a new middle school within Oakton secondary??


It's crazy that kids who live so close to Lanier could get sent to Franklin. Maybe send them to Thoreau and some of the other kids moved to Thoreau back to Jackson.


This /\ ... turkey dinner winner...

Providence and current SLH kids will get zoned into OES and then onto Thoreau. Can't see county going to the trouble of zoning them into OES only to then turn around and zone them back out of the pyramid again, imagine the backlash, not to mention, isn't there a 3 year hold on zoning in/out. So there will be no change in MWE and OES middle school feeding. What will change is the students who currently attend those two schools. The buildings stay put, but the students move.

If OES capacity is 800+ and BES capacity is 800+ and MWS is 1000+. The only students who don't currently have a middle school home are the potential 800+ students at the new school. Where are they going to be sent?

Without boundary information how does anyone know that the new school being created won't be high FARMS. There are a lot of apartments feeding into Mosby which contribute to the FARMS rate there, and those residences are as close to Blake Lane Park as they are to MWE. The students being transferred out of Providence and SLH pyramid are presumably not high FARMS, but their current schools are high FARMS.

The only thing that does seem clear at this point is that once the new school is built Providence, and former SLH zoned kids will now be attending low FARMS OES. Some of the students who are now zoned for Mosby and OES who will now be zoned out, and into the new school, in the interest of having all students feed into the same school. It will make sense to zone this new school to somewhere else for middle school. It makes sense both location and SES fit to zone this new school back into Luther. There will be less outcry as the student population will now more closely align with Luther general ed students.

I think this makes the most sense and the county is to be commended for actually thinking this one through. This is certainly for the benefit of all --don't you think? The demographics of the new school will now more closely align with the gen ed population at Luther, and the students being transferred into OES will no longer have to attend high FARMS schools, and can now go to a school with kids who are more closely matched to their demographic profile. The county is finally getting one right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Make Oakton HS into Oakton Secondary? Facilities surely knows that the providence kids who go to the new Blake Lane School cannot be accomodated at Thoreau. So they have to go to Franklin or perhaps a new middle school within Oakton secondary??


It's crazy that kids who live so close to Lanier could get sent to Franklin. Maybe send them to Thoreau and some of the other kids moved to Thoreau back to Jackson.


Do you think PP has any idea of where Franklin is located? It's a ridiculous suggestion.
Anonymous
BLES gets 800 from the existing MWES and OES. No one is going back to LJ. Only TMS. Low FARMs school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here’s the deal: MWES and OES are, wait for it, 1.9 miles apart from each other. The proposed site for Blake Lane ES would put 3 schools in a 1.9 mile radius. Now, the FCPSSB and facilities team make mistakes, but this is just plain, across the board stupidity.

I think the incredible level of stupidity was at the BOS level since they seem to be the ones who gave the property in question back to FCPS. I mean if we are akways running low on funds, why not sell to a developer to build low density housing - SFHs or similar to the TH community on Blake Lane? Or just give it to the county parks and recs?

I don’t foresee this school actually being built. Taxpayers in the outskirts - that now go to overcrowded McNaur, for example, are going to fight this. To have 3 ES less than 2 miles was an oversight. And the traffic to metro and OHS are already bad!



Orange Hunt, Sangster and Hunt Valley are like this. Heck, 2 of them are at either end of the same subdivision.

It is no big deal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Make Oakton HS into Oakton Secondary? Facilities surely knows that the providence kids who go to the new Blake Lane School cannot be accomodated at Thoreau. So they have to go to Franklin or perhaps a new middle school within Oakton secondary??


It's crazy that kids who live so close to Lanier could get sent to Franklin. Maybe send them to Thoreau and some of the other kids moved to Thoreau back to Jackson.


This /\ ... turkey dinner winner...

Providence and current SLH kids will get zoned into OES and then onto Thoreau. Can't see county going to the trouble of zoning them into OES only to then turn around and zone them back out of the pyramid again, imagine the backlash, not to mention, isn't there a 3 year hold on zoning in/out. So there will be no change in MWE and OES middle school feeding. What will change is the students who currently attend those two schools. The buildings stay put, but the students move.

If OES capacity is 800+ and BES capacity is 800+ and MWS is 1000+. The only students who don't currently have a middle school home are the potential 800+ students at the new school. Where are they going to be sent?

Without boundary information how does anyone know that the new school being created won't be high FARMS. There are a lot of apartments feeding into Mosby which contribute to the FARMS rate there, and those residences are as close to Blake Lane Park as they are to MWE. The students being transferred out of Providence and SLH pyramid are presumably not high FARMS, but their current schools are high FARMS.

The only thing that does seem clear at this point is that once the new school is built Providence, and former SLH zoned kids will now be attending low FARMS OES. Some of the students who are now zoned for Mosby and OES who will now be zoned out, and into the new school, in the interest of having all students feed into the same school. It will make sense to zone this new school to somewhere else for middle school. It makes sense both location and SES fit to zone this new school back into Luther. There will be less outcry as the student population will now more closely align with Luther general ed students.

I think this makes the most sense and the county is to be commended for actually thinking this one through. This is certainly for the benefit of all --don't you think? The demographics of the new school will now more closely align with the gen ed population at Luther, and the students being transferred into OES will no longer have to attend high FARMS schools, and can now go to a school with kids who are more closely matched to their demographic profile. The county is finally getting one right.


Is this poster actually advocating against one Fairfax and segregating children by parental income? So many words in the post that I'm having trouble understanding their position.
Anonymous
I am having trouble following this--likely because I am not very familiar with the area.

However, the best way is community schools with kids who live as nearby as possible. This is one reason I don't like magnets, AAP centers, etc.

I taught in a school that was "socially engineered." It doesn't work. And, if the poorer kids are bused in, you lose the parent involvement--which is much better when they live in the community.

It needs to be organic.
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