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[Anonymous]

Get used to it. Not so easy to fine land to build much needed schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP. The page shows that most schools will not be over capacity. The exception is Chantilly Pyramid schools. They will be the highest over capacity.

Neither of the latter two statements is correct. Other pyramids are projected to be over capacity, some more than Chantilly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting...I guess they’re trying to get OHS kids into a pyramid of TMS/FMS/RCMS so want all OHS pyramid kids in same ES feeders to those schools. I highly doubt MWES will be moving to FHS-95% of MWES kids walk to OHS. The other 5% are bused, but could walk.

I wouldn’t be surprised if hunter mill estates comes back to OHS.

Is this new construction pyramid based? See page 128 of 188 on the CIP. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed_FY_2020-24_CIP_0.pdf

If zero additional ES capacity is added for 2023-24 from 2018-19 there is a surplus of 10,993 seats for the program [not as constructed] capacity at the elementary school level. 36 million plus for any new school? With that open capacity FCPS should use it's economy of scale and domino boundary changes.

Especially if at one new school site potential attendees object.

I can’t read the print on the page you cited (too small) would you please explain further. Please explain the domino boundaries concept?

??

If someone can’t figure out how to increase the size of the print in a .PDF file, there’s probably no point in trying to explain other concepts.

Smart phones do have their limitations don't they... Linear thinking is great until it isn't... I imagine you are a sad person, with a sad life... you had a plan which started with... you went to the right kind of school, pursued the right kind of career, married the right kind of spouse, in order to have the right kind of children, bought a home in the right kind of neighborhood, and you thought everything would be great, until it wasn't, and now you find yourself trapped in a place that is so stifling and soul sucking that you spend what precious free time you have on the inter-webs, taking your anger and frustration out on random strangers, because the anger and self loathing runs so deep, you must project outwards or implode/explode... either way you know it is coming... it is a linear progression.

If I have helped you to discharge some of that anger, anger that you might otherwise direct towards one of your helpless children, or overly dependent spouse, then please know that I forgive you. Bless your heart, and I hope that your today is better for you than your yesterday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

Did anyone attend the meeting?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting...I guess they’re trying to get OHS kids into a pyramid of TMS/FMS/RCMS so want all OHS pyramid kids in same ES feeders to those schools. I highly doubt MWES will be moving to FHS-95% of MWES kids walk to OHS. The other 5% are bused, but could walk.

I wouldn’t be surprised if hunter mill estates comes back to OHS.

Is this new construction pyramid based? See page 128 of 188 on the CIP. https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/Proposed_FY_2020-24_CIP_0.pdf

If zero additional ES capacity is added for 2023-24 from 2018-19 there is a surplus of 10,993 seats for the program [not as constructed] capacity at the elementary school level. 36 million plus for any new school? With that open capacity FCPS should use it's economy of scale and domino boundary changes.

Especially if at one new school site potential attendees object.

I can’t read the print on the page you cited (too small) would you please explain further. Please explain the domino boundaries concept?

??

If someone can’t figure out how to increase the size of the print in a .PDF file, there’s probably no point in trying to explain other concepts.

Smart phones do have their limitations don't they... Linear thinking is great until it isn't... I imagine you are a sad person, with a sad life... you had a plan which started with... you went to the right kind of school, pursued the right kind of career, married the right kind of spouse, in order to have the right kind of children, bought a home in the right kind of neighborhood, and you thought everything would be great, until it wasn't, and now you find yourself trapped in a place that is so stifling and soul sucking that you spend what precious free time you have on the inter-webs, taking your anger and frustration out on random strangers, because the anger and self loathing runs so deep, you must project outwards or implode/explode... either way you know it is coming... it is a linear progression.

If I have helped you to discharge some of that anger, anger that you might otherwise direct towards one of your helpless children, or overly dependent spouse, then please know that I forgive you. Bless your heart, and I hope that your today is better for you than your yesterday.

your phone must suck

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

Did anyone attend the meeting?

I attended the meeting, but left half way through.

The Blake Lane site has been selected and that decision is final. They have moved onto the design stages.

They are moving roughly 500 students into the Oakton Pyramid which is why a new elementary is needed. Roughly 250 AAP students who currently attend Hunters Woods and live in the Oakton Pyramid will be moved to an Oakton Pyramid elementary (in line with the OneFairfax theme) also an additional 250 students who currently reside in Fairfax County but attend Providence will be moved to a Fairfax County school (being kicked out by Fairfax City School's). Also Oakton Elementary has reached its max capacity for the site so the county cannot add on to Oakton to increase their capacity to account for the additional students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

Did anyone attend the meeting?

I attended the meeting, but left half way through.

The Blake Lane site has been selected and that decision is final. They have moved onto the design stages.

They are moving roughly 500 students into the Oakton Pyramid which is why a new elementary is needed. Roughly 250 AAP students who currently attend Hunters Woods and live in the Oakton Pyramid will be moved to an Oakton Pyramid elementary (in line with the OneFairfax theme) also an additional 250 students who currently reside in Fairfax County but attend Providence will be moved to a Fairfax County school (being kicked out by Fairfax City School's). Also Oakton Elementary has reached its max capacity for the site so the county cannot add on to Oakton to increase their capacity to account for the additional students.

The Waples Mill AAP kids at Hunters Woods already go to Oakton HS. But the Providence kids, whether they live in Fairfax City or Fairfax County, currently go to Lanier MS/Fairfax HS. Should we understand that FCPS plans to move the Providence kids who live in the county not only to a new elementary school, but also to Oakton HS rather than Fairfax HS and a different middle school than Lanier MS?

Sure sounds like Oakton could get really big until the mythical new western high school is built.

[Anonymous]

Yes. That’s what will happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

Did anyone attend the meeting?

I attended the meeting, but left half way through.

The Blake Lane site has been selected and that decision is final. They have moved onto the design stages.

They are moving roughly 500 students into the Oakton Pyramid which is why a new elementary is needed. Roughly 250 AAP students who currently attend Hunters Woods and live in the Oakton Pyramid will be moved to an Oakton Pyramid elementary (in line with the OneFairfax theme) also an additional 250 students who currently reside in Fairfax County but attend Providence will be moved to a Fairfax County school (being kicked out by Fairfax City School's). Also Oakton Elementary has reached its max capacity for the site so the county cannot add on to Oakton to increase their capacity to account for the additional students.

see how waiting to get the official FCPS plan actually helps focus the discussion rather than relying on conjecture after conjecture in the first 5 pages of this thread!

At least for those who want to fight this, they can now frame their arguments on issues that have a chance of being heard.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

Did anyone attend the meeting?

I attended the meeting, but left half way through.

The Blake Lane site has been selected and that decision is final. They have moved onto the design stages.

They are moving roughly 500 students into the Oakton Pyramid which is why a new elementary is needed. Roughly 250 AAP students who currently attend Hunters Woods and live in the Oakton Pyramid will be moved to an Oakton Pyramid elementary (in line with the OneFairfax theme) also an additional 250 students who currently reside in Fairfax County but attend Providence will be moved to a Fairfax County school (being kicked out by Fairfax City School's). Also Oakton Elementary has reached its max capacity for the site so the county cannot add on to Oakton to increase their capacity to account for the additional students.

The are not “being kicked out by City of Fairfax”. This dcesion is coming from the FCPS facilities management since Providence is at 98% capacity and the population of city kids is expected to rise over the coming years. There are several huge developments happening including the redevelopment of PVI that impact this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

Did anyone attend the meeting?

I attended the meeting, but left half way through.

The Blake Lane site has been selected and that decision is final. They have moved onto the design stages.

They are moving roughly 500 students into the Oakton Pyramid which is why a new elementary is needed. Roughly 250 AAP students who currently attend Hunters Woods and live in the Oakton Pyramid will be moved to an Oakton Pyramid elementary (in line with the OneFairfax theme) also an additional 250 students who currently reside in Fairfax County but attend Providence will be moved to a Fairfax County school (being kicked out by Fairfax City School's). Also Oakton Elementary has reached its max capacity for the site so the county cannot add on to Oakton to increase their capacity to account for the additional students.

see how waiting to get the official FCPS plan actually helps focus the discussion rather than relying on conjecture after conjecture in the first 5 pages of this thread!

At least for those who want to fight this, they can now frame their arguments on issues that have a chance of being heard.

What is there to fight? The decision has been made. There will be a new elementary built on the Blake Lane Site.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

Did anyone attend the meeting?

I attended the meeting, but left half way through.

The Blake Lane site has been selected and that decision is final. They have moved onto the design stages.

They are moving roughly 500 students into the Oakton Pyramid which is why a new elementary is needed. Roughly 250 AAP students who currently attend Hunters Woods and live in the Oakton Pyramid will be moved to an Oakton Pyramid elementary (in line with the OneFairfax theme) also an additional 250 students who currently reside in Fairfax County but attend Providence will be moved to a Fairfax County school (being kicked out by Fairfax City School's). Also Oakton Elementary has reached its max capacity for the site so the county cannot add on to Oakton to increase their capacity to account for the additional students.

see how waiting to get the official FCPS plan actually helps focus the discussion rather than relying on conjecture after conjecture in the first 5 pages of this thread!

At least for those who want to fight this, they can now frame their arguments on issues that have a chance of being heard.

What is there to fight? The decision has been made. There will be a new elementary built on the Blake Lane Site.

Agreed. The time to fight was ten years ago when this was added to the plan.

[Anonymous]

I can't help but think that none of this is happening in a vacuum. It is all just too convenient. First you redistrict OES and Mosby Woods, then you build this elementary in a place in which it doesn't need to be built, all to what purpose?

If you had said we need to build a middle school or hey even and elementary school to support growth going on in Fairfax Circle and or around the metro, then I get that. In which case the other park, Towers Park, would be a suitable location for either a middle school, or an elementary school, again it makes sense since that land is jointly held by BOS and FCPS.

But this school is being built, has nothing to do with projected capacity in the current Oakton HS pyramid. Once people accept that they can start attacking the issue on the why this is happening.

I suspect answer to that question is a far more compelling and touchy than any argument made up to this point.

Start putting pressure on FCPS, to release information about the boundaries to feed into this school and what will be the result of adding 500+ additional students into the OES/MWS/BLE-TMS-OHS pyramid.

The answers to those questions need to be addressed. Why is Fairfax County being so cagey about the answers to those questions. Perhaps they know you won't like the answers. What don't they want you to know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't help but think that none of this is happening in a vacuum. It is all just too convenient. First you redistrict OES and Mosby Woods, then you build this elementary in a place in which it doesn't need to be built, all to what purpose?

If you had said we need to build a middle school or hey even and elementary school to support growth going on in Fairfax Circle and or around the metro, then I get that. In which case the other park, Towers Park, would be a suitable location for either a middle school, or an elementary school, again it makes sense since that land is jointly held by BOS and FCPS.

But this school is being built, has nothing to do with projected capacity in the current Oakton HS pyramid. Once people accept that they can start attacking the issue on the why this is happening.

I suspect answer to that question is a far more compelling and touchy than any argument made up to this point.

Start putting pressure on FCPS, to release information about the boundaries to feed into this school and what will be the result of adding 500+ additional students into the OES/MWS/BLE-TMS-OHS pyramid.

The answers to those questions need to be addressed. Why is Fairfax County being so cagey about the answers to those questions. Perhaps they know you won't like the answers. What don't they want you to know?

Agreed.

[Anonymous]

Jeff Platenburg does not seem to understand One Fairfax at all. They really need to get a policy person on the boundaries and not just a construction expert.