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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Faux outrage over green space.
The real outrage from the OP is that she bought a home zoned for one school and now realizes her kid will have to go to the new school with a less desirable demographic

But that is the real issue in addition to the green space right? Why does FCPS continue to do this? Why do they segregate kids by housing type and then claim that they are One Fairfax?

Somehow they have time to discuss powderpuff games but not demographics in school boundaries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Faux outrage over green space.
The real outrage from the OP is that she bought a home zoned for one school and now realizes her kid will have to go to the new school with a less desirable demographic

I am a member of that less desirable demographic of what you speak. And I am offended. I never said one demographic was more desirable than the other. But since you chose to pinpoint the 2 ton elephant in the corner, let's just get down to it. I do believe that this move is being contemplated to appease a group of people who do consider any demographic consisting of brown skin to be less desirable and that is what is wrong about this. If you choose to buy a house 45 minutes away from the Oakton Pyramid in a location with plenty of room to build why should you not think that at some point it is you and your cohort that will need to go. That is the logical answer, that is the sustainable answer. But it takes a county with a spine to implement it. I chose to buy a house in a diverse neighborhood and I think my elementary school OES should be more reflective of that diversity not less so. This move will make my school OES less diverse, not more so, and it will destroy a resource that my community depends on at the benefit people that are not even a part of my community.

[Anonymous]

It's not even the demographic that is the main issue anymore. The two-ton issue is really money/class. How much money and time do parents of one group have over another? It's infuriating to me to watch Oakton families year after year fight against more diversified housing and to keep their septic systems to where all the apartments in that section of Fairfax are in one area and then see them fight against integration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not even the demographic that is the main issue anymore. The two-ton issue is really money/class. How much money and time do parents of one group have over another? It's infuriating to me to watch Oakton families year after year fight against more diversified housing and to keep their septic systems to where all the apartments in that section of Fairfax are in one area and then see them fight against integration.

But, then, some of the same Oakton pyramid families now worried about getting moved to a new, higher FARMS elementary school were champing at the bit to get moved out of a Falls Church pyramid middle school (Jackson) to a Madison pyramid middle school (Thoreau).

Funny how some of this comes back to bite you. If you really cared about One Fairfax and greater diversity, you should have been asking FCPS to slow down last year.

[Anonymous]

For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

[Anonymous]

It is happening. You can’t stop it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

NP I want to add if you get the big picture and you want the county to know that this has to stop somewhere. Please come out and let your voices be heard. As a group we may not currently be the loudest, but we have the numbers. A small group is controlling the narrative and the actions of FCPS. Let them know that we have the numbers and the voices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not even the demographic that is the main issue anymore. The two-ton issue is really money/class. How much money and time do parents of one group have over another? It's infuriating to me to watch Oakton families year after year fight against more diversified housing and to keep their septic systems to where all the apartments in that section of Fairfax are in one area and then see them fight against integration.

But, then, some of the same Oakton pyramid families now worried about getting moved to a new, higher FARMS elementary school were champing at the bit to get moved out of a Falls Church pyramid middle school (Jackson) to a Madison pyramid middle school (Thoreau).

Funny how some of this comes back to bite you. If you really cared about One Fairfax and greater diversity, you should have been asking FCPS to slow down last year.

Umm. I did. I think the Thoreau boundary decision was also poorly done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

Thank you. I will try to make it although can't if it is this Wednesday. Maybe ai will write first. Do you have any information on the meeting?

[Anonymous]

How can Fairfax add housing units but not schools, and not end up in the same mess as Arlington?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you are angry at the county and want to save the park, please attend the meeting at Mosby Woods Elementary at 7.p.m on Wed, Jan 16th. If it gets cancelled due to snow, please keep informed and write letters! I am also insulted about the faux outrage comment over loss of green space. My half-Hispanic children are grown and out of the school system, but I still want to save the park.

Thank you. I will try to make it although can't if it is this Wednesday. Maybe ai will write first. Do you have any information on the meeting?

Here is the link. There are still a lot of questions to be answered. Come out and be heard.

https://www.fcps.edu/event/oakton-fairfax-es-community-meeting

[Anonymous]

I don't understand the "we need green space" line of reasoning unless it is soley for dog park use. When they build a school, it will have a playground and an open field. Both the playground and the open field will be available for community use in the evenings and weekends and during the summer all day.

It's true that dogs are not allowed on school property. But, there is an off-leash dog park next to Nottoway Park (which is not too far away). It is not common for people in Fairfax County to have direct access to off-leash dog parks in their neighborhoods.... just too many other uses for land.

So, unless you are saying that dog owners should have priority over schools for kids, I'm not sure what the "need green space" argument gets you.

Also, the arguments about who would go where and who would lose out and how that would impact X, Y and Z elementary schools and A and B middle schools, seems premature. Until there is a proposal for zoning, your arguments are simply strawmen arguments. Seems like you need to go back to FCPS and find out more about the specifics.

The one argument that does seem fair -- or at least potentially fair -- is whether the right location is in that area (just b/c of how close it is to other elementary schools) vs. the park closer to 29/50 (south on Blake). That argument might have merit, but without knowing more about FCPS's wider-lens plan, I don't know if it is one I would support or not.

-- signed,
Need more info.

[Anonymous]

Do what you want, FCPS, we move around when your boundaries change.

[Anonymous]

Here’s the deal: MWES and OES are, wait for it, 1.9 miles apart from each other. The proposed site for Blake Lane ES would put 3 schools in a 1.9 mile radius. Now, the FCPSSB and facilities team make mistakes, but this is just plain, across the board stupidity.

I think the incredible level of stupidity was at the BOS level since they seem to be the ones who gave the property in question back to FCPS. I mean if we are akways running low on funds, why not sell to a developer to build low density housing - SFHs or similar to the TH community on Blake Lane? Or just give it to the county parks and recs?

I don’t foresee this school actually being built. Taxpayers in the outskirts - that now go to overcrowded McNaur, for example, are going to fight this. To have 3 ES less than 2 miles was an oversight. And the traffic to metro and OHS are already bad!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here’s the deal: MWES and OES are, wait for it, 1.9 miles apart from each other. The proposed site for Blake Lane ES would put 3 schools in a 1.9 mile radius. Now, the FCPSSB and facilities team make mistakes, but this is just plain, across the board stupidity.

I think the incredible level of stupidity was at the BOS level since they seem to be the ones who gave the property in question back to FCPS. I mean if we are akways running low on funds, why not sell to a developer to build low density housing - SFHs or similar to the TH community on Blake Lane? Or just give it to the county parks and recs?

I don’t foresee this school actually being built. Taxpayers in the outskirts - that now go to overcrowded McNaur, for example, are going to fight this. To have 3 ES less than 2 miles was an oversight. And the traffic to metro and OHS are already bad!

Anyone familiar with Carson and Franklin? When Carson was built, you could practically see both schools from Centreville Rd. They are @1.5 miles apart--and likely less as the crow flies.