Updates on LAMB at Kingsbury?

[Anonymous]

Can I just point out something? Other schools are not subject to this tyranny of the minority. Look at Mundo Verde, about to move into a second campus in Brookland which will cause incredible traffic snarls, and put a lot more kids into a school building which has previously been smaller. But, it was already given a cap which is high enough, so, nobody needs permission from anyone and they're free to move in there in spite of the potentially extremely opposed and well organized neighbors. The neighbors are powerless. And you know what? I'm one of them, and I don't care. Schools are important. Kids are important. Slight inconveniences to support schools are the right thing to do.

Just pointing this out because this is just a fluke which even gives these few neighbors this megaphone and they wield a ridiculous amount of power. The building and grounds easily accommodate more kids, much more easily than the MV new building will which won't even have a playground.

This attitude of the neighbor above is simply sickening, elitist, NIMBYism which needs to be called out. I want this person to show their face and be judged. Shame on you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh right, to reduce the number of blacks.

Check off that box as "done". LAMB is 17.3% Black and 9.7% at-risk. West is 55% black and 38% at-risk. Brightwood is 20% black and 42% at-risk. For those neighbors who are concerned about "who" LAMB is bringing to the neighborhood, don't worry. No one is lowering property values by allowing a high performing school of mostly well-to-do non-black kids to occupy Kingsbury.

[Anonymous]

I don’t want your school or kids in my backyard, be they green or blue. The neighborhood will fight this and likely win. LAMB needs to focus on the current lawsuit with their teachers sexually assaulting children and then the CEO/admins cover up. If the school covers up sexual assault, how much more would they be willing to bury under the guise of “educating children?”

NOT IN MY BACKYARD and NOT ON MY WATCH! Take your charter lottery and debacle elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want your school or kids in my backyard, be they green or blue. The neighborhood will fight this and likely win. LAMB needs to focus on the current lawsuit with their teachers sexually assaulting children and then the CEO/admins cover up. If the school covers up sexual assault, how much more would they be willing to bury under the guise of “educating children?”

NOT IN MY BACKYARD and NOT ON MY WATCH! Take your charter lottery and debacle elsewhere.

You sound more like a bad parody of my neighbors than anyone who actually lives nearby. Nice try.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want your school or kids in my backyard, be they green or blue. The neighborhood will fight this and likely win. LAMB needs to focus on the current lawsuit with their teachers sexually assaulting children and then the CEO/admins cover up. If the school covers up sexual assault, how much more would they be willing to bury under the guise of “educating children?”

NOT IN MY BACKYARD and NOT ON MY WATCH! Take your charter lottery and debacle elsewhere.

You sound more like a bad parody of my neighbors than anyone who actually lives nearby. Nice try.

If you read the BZA transcripts you'll see that those neighbors actually are a caricature of themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh right, to reduce the number of blacks.

Check off that box as "done". LAMB is 17.3% Black and 9.7% at-risk. West is 55% black and 38% at-risk. Brightwood is 20% black and 42% at-risk. For those neighbors who are concerned about "who" LAMB is bringing to the neighborhood, don't worry. No one is lowering property values by allowing a high performing school of mostly well-to-do non-black kids to occupy Kingsbury.

We’re pretty comfortable with a diverse neighborhood and have no issue with school kids in the neighborhood.

I just don’t believe that LAMB is about serving underserved children. It serves few economically disadvantaged kids and even fewer at-risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t want your school or kids in my backyard, be they green or blue. The neighborhood will fight this and likely win. LAMB needs to focus on the current lawsuit with their teachers sexually assaulting children and then the CEO/admins cover up. If the school covers up sexual assault, how much more would they be willing to bury under the guise of “educating children?”

NOT IN MY BACKYARD and NOT ON MY WATCH! Take your charter lottery and debacle elsewhere.

Ahh... why so angry? Is it just the sexual molestation case or is this your feeling about all charters? Or any type of school that would open at Kingsbury?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh right, to reduce the number of blacks.

Check off that box as "done". LAMB is 17.3% Black and 9.7% at-risk. West is 55% black and 38% at-risk. Brightwood is 20% black and 42% at-risk. For those neighbors who are concerned about "who" LAMB is bringing to the neighborhood, don't worry. No one is lowering property values by allowing a high performing school of mostly well-to-do non-black kids to occupy Kingsbury.

We’re pretty comfortable with a diverse neighborhood and have no issue with school kids in the neighborhood.

I just don’t believe that LAMB is about serving underserved children. It serves few economically disadvantaged kids and even fewer at-risk.

Yes, obviously. The "underserved" children at LAMB perform much lower than the "underserved" children at either West or Brightwood. Even though LAMB "seems" to be performing higher overall, that's not true if you look at the performance of each student group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want your school or kids in my backyard, be they green or blue. The neighborhood will fight this and likely win. LAMB needs to focus on the current lawsuit with their teachers sexually assaulting children and then the CEO/admins cover up. If the school covers up sexual assault, how much more would they be willing to bury under the guise of “educating children?”

NOT IN MY BACKYARD and NOT ON MY WATCH! Take your charter lottery and debacle elsewhere.

Ahh... why so angry? Is it just the sexual molestation case or is this your feeling about all charters? Or any type of school that would open at Kingsbury?

You should be angry too but I guess the smog from the Mt. Pleasant/Columbia Heights area is affecting your thinking. I'd rather miss the disease of critically thinking. People have a right to their opinion about their neighborhood factored in. It is called active discourse. You don't live in the neighborhood and yet you feel the need to force your thinking on someone that actually does. Your entitlement first hand is showing .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want your school or kids in my backyard, be they green or blue. The neighborhood will fight this and likely win. LAMB needs to focus on the current lawsuit with their teachers sexually assaulting children and then the CEO/admins cover up. If the school covers up sexual assault, how much more would they be willing to bury under the guise of “educating children?”

NOT IN MY BACKYARD and NOT ON MY WATCH! Take your charter lottery and debacle elsewhere.

Ahh... why so angry? Is it just the sexual molestation case or is this your feeling about all charters? Or any type of school that would open at Kingsbury?

You should be angry too but I guess the smog from the Mt. Pleasant/Columbia Heights area is affecting your thinking. I'd rather miss the disease of critically thinking. People have a right to their opinion about their neighborhood factored in. It is called active discourse. You don't live in the neighborhood and yet you feel the need to force your thinking on someone that actually does. Your entitlement first hand is showing .

Please stop. I don’t know who you think you’re helping, but you’re not helping anyone, including yourself.

And if you’re not drunk, then recognize that you make no sense. You might want to figure that out before speaking in public.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want your school or kids in my backyard, be they green or blue. The neighborhood will fight this and likely win. LAMB needs to focus on the current lawsuit with their teachers sexually assaulting children and then the CEO/admins cover up. If the school covers up sexual assault, how much more would they be willing to bury under the guise of “educating children?”

NOT IN MY BACKYARD and NOT ON MY WATCH! Take your charter lottery and debacle elsewhere.

Ahh... why so angry? Is it just the sexual molestation case or is this your feeling about all charters? Or any type of school that would open at Kingsbury?

You should be angry too but I guess the smog from the Mt. Pleasant/Columbia Heights area is affecting your thinking. I'd rather miss the disease of critically thinking. People have a right to their opinion about their neighborhood factored in. It is called active discourse. You don't live in the neighborhood and yet you feel the need to force your thinking on someone that actually does. Your entitlement first hand is showing .

I just moved here. I don’t have kids. I did move from a heavy smog area so maybe it affected my thinking. Help me out and answer the question - is it just LAMB you despise or are you against any school opening at a Kingsbury?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want your school or kids in my backyard, be they green or blue. The neighborhood will fight this and likely win. LAMB needs to focus on the current lawsuit with their teachers sexually assaulting children and then the CEO/admins cover up. If the school covers up sexual assault, how much more would they be willing to bury under the guise of “educating children?”

NOT IN MY BACKYARD and NOT ON MY WATCH! Take your charter lottery and debacle elsewhere.

Ahh... why so angry? Is it just the sexual molestation case or is this your feeling about all charters? Or any type of school that would open at Kingsbury?

You should be angry too but I guess the smog from the Mt. Pleasant/Columbia Heights area is affecting your thinking. I'd rather miss the disease of critically thinking. People have a right to their opinion about their neighborhood factored in. It is called active discourse. You don't live in the neighborhood and yet you feel the need to force your thinking on someone that actually does. Your entitlement first hand is showing .

I just moved here. I don’t have kids. I did move from a heavy smog area so maybe it affected my thinking. Help me out and answer the question - is it just LAMB you despise or are you against any school opening at a Kingsbury?

Pretty sure these anti- folks would be quite happy to have Kingsbury sell to another private school with a population of 150 which is ideally quiet and physically disabled so as not to have much loud recess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want your school or kids in my backyard, be they green or blue. The neighborhood will fight this and likely win. LAMB needs to focus on the current lawsuit with their teachers sexually assaulting children and then the CEO/admins cover up. If the school covers up sexual assault, how much more would they be willing to bury under the guise of “educating children?”

NOT IN MY BACKYARD and NOT ON MY WATCH! Take your charter lottery and debacle elsewhere.

Ahh... why so angry? Is it just the sexual molestation case or is this your feeling about all charters? Or any type of school that would open at Kingsbury?

You should be angry too but I guess the smog from the Mt. Pleasant/Columbia Heights area is affecting your thinking. I'd rather miss the disease of critically thinking. People have a right to their opinion about their neighborhood factored in. It is called active discourse. You don't live in the neighborhood and yet you feel the need to force your thinking on someone that actually does. Your entitlement first hand is showing .

I just moved here. I don’t have kids. I did move from a heavy smog area so maybe it affected my thinking. Help me out and answer the question - is it just LAMB you despise or are you against any school opening at a Kingsbury?

Pretty sure these anti- folks would be quite happy to have Kingsbury sell to another private school with a population of 150 which is ideally quiet and physically disabled so as not to have much loud recess.

That’s not going to happen. The Kingsbury financial picture doesn’t work once DCPS has improved the quality of special ed services.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow people are really nuts. I guess it’s possible some of the crazies on this lawsuit are on this thread. So let me get this straight: a few Lamb parents rubbed you the wrong way at a meeting, so now you have a personal vendetta against the whole school, and think it shouldn’t be allowed to buy a building which is already a school? Because some kind of “promises” won’t be kept? What exactly? Just basic montoeing of traffic flows and mitigation, really? Which will certainly be less bothersome than the traffic from the luxury condos you prefer, all because you decided a public SCHOOL is somehow just snobby and awful? I swear to god some people have some kind of autoalerts on certain schools on here and they pop up and trash talk any freaking chance they get.

You clearly have been to none of the meetings where residents voiced reasonable concerns and suggestions. LAMB has shown no interest in working with the community other than their token unenforceable "promises".
Thank you for showing your ignorance on the matter.

I am a NP and I am interested in hearing the reasonable concerns. I am being serious- I have never heard any of the concerns other than more traffic.

“Your Christmas tree sale will interfere with ours!” Yes, really.

Do you realize that the tree sale is one of the best fundraising activities for a title 1 school across the street? They don't have as many wealthy families as LAMB to chip in thousands of dollars. And they also don't have big financial backers like the Walton family to throw money around.

And it was brought up as a concern, not a deal breaker. It was part of a letter of support from the parents of the neighboring school.

PP, you are the type of LAMB parent that is the reason this isn't going smoother.

LAMB draws children from that same neighborhood and is likely to draw even more when it moves to Kingsbury, given that it will be inaccessible for Wards 6, 7 and 8 for most families. Denying another school their own fundraiser is the height of pettiness.

Folks. There will be no "denying another school their own fundraiser". Come on, this is crazy. This is not the reason - it's just one example of the many, many, many things that LAMB has already addressed.

I would like to point to the final list of "conditions" which are 35, proposed to address each and every concern. Where you may also read in detail about the lengthy process that LAMB has already gone through in order to appease mainly the neighbors (West already supported the move). Oh, and you can also watch all the proceedings, and read the transcripts: https://app.dcoz.dc.gov/Content/Search/ViewCaseReport.aspx?case_id=19581.

I am the poster who was called uninformed earlier. Nothing could be further from the truth, as I have in fact read through all of these pages of materials. The bottom line is that LAMB proposed a starting cap of 300 students until Kingsbury moves out, then increase up to 600 (not all at once). Prior to the increase LAMB must prove that it deserves the approval by adhering to these conditions, prior to being given the certificate of occupancy.

So, rather than simply disrespecting everyone and ignoring their requests, LAMB has by now bent over backward to accommodate every. single. request. And put a monitoring system in place. The one thing it's simply unable to do is return to the board and go through this process AGAIN in 2-3 years, to get the ceiling increased. It should be abundantly clear by now why the mortgage lenders would not be okay with this. Clearly, the aggrieved neighbors are going to do this all again, at every chance they get, and fight to the death.

Honestly, if anyone has another school property available for LAMB of similar size and amenities, in either ward 4 or 5, go ahead and suggest it. Otherwise, this property really needs to be used by a school, and a charter school is the best possible option. These neighbors need to be called out for their extreme pettiness, not LAMB.

Thanks for this PP. Am I doing it wrong or is the full log empty? (It seems to be when I click on it)

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You may only file new documents in this case by E-Mail, US Mail, facsimile, or hand-delivery. "

I’m sorry I guess the link doesn’t work you may have to do a case search.

I was able to see the full docs by searching by the case ID: 19581. For some reason the direct link doesn't bring it up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh right, to reduce the number of blacks.

Check off that box as "done". LAMB is 17.3% Black and 9.7% at-risk. West is 55% black and 38% at-risk. Brightwood is 20% black and 42% at-risk. For those neighbors who are concerned about "who" LAMB is bringing to the neighborhood, don't worry. No one is lowering property values by allowing a high performing school of mostly well-to-do non-black kids to occupy Kingsbury.

We’re pretty comfortable with a diverse neighborhood and have no issue with school kids in the neighborhood.

I just don’t believe that LAMB is about serving underserved children. It serves few economically disadvantaged kids and even fewer at-risk.

LAMB definitely has as its core mission to serve underserved and economically disadvantaged children. They were just too good at it, and as a result, UMC people flocked to the school, apply in large numbers, and because it’s done by lottery, the demographics of the school have changed.