Real life experiences at schools in Del Rey

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Anonymous wrote:There are lots of kids in the area. I used to live there near two of my close friends. They had families with children. I sent my oldest to private school then we moved before DC2 was in K so we did not have pay tuition for two. One friend sent her children to JH and moved when both were in early elementary. The other friend moved the year before her oldest started K. All of us loved living in Alexandria before we had children and before they were in school. None of us live there now.

So did you all move to avoid JH?

Yes.

Speak with Realtors in the area zoned for JH. It has a real affect on prices. This has been going on for 17 years. It's not a new issue.

What a shame that one school can have such an effect on the home value in a certain areas. Just curious, if you had to guess how many years until JH is fully accredited, what would it be?

3 years. More and more UMC families will stick it out (because they can't transfer anymore) and bring up test scores.

I thought the same thing, but no.
The numbers have to be balanced on both ends. It’s not enough to add UMC you have to have fewer poor kids. If you have 100 units of low income housing to one single family home, you will not get the right mix.
I’ve watched this play out in South Arlignton. It sucks, but housing policy is school
Policy.

What schools are unaccredited in South Arlington?

I think they are all accredited. Just a few that perennially underperform. Always have. Always will.

I thought so. I stand by my prediction of 3 years to accreditation for JH. Whether it will be a perennial underperformer is a separate matter.

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Anonymous wrote:There are lots of kids in the area. I used to live there near two of my close friends. They had families with children. I sent my oldest to private school then we moved before DC2 was in K so we did not have pay tuition for two. One friend sent her children to JH and moved when both were in early elementary. The other friend moved the year before her oldest started K. All of us loved living in Alexandria before we had children and before they were in school. None of us live there now.

So did you all move to avoid JH?

Yes.

Speak with Realtors in the area zoned for JH. It has a real affect on prices. This has been going on for 17 years. It's not a new issue.

What a shame that one school can have such an effect on the home value in a certain areas. Just curious, if you had to guess how many years until JH is fully accredited, what would it be?

3 years. More and more UMC families will stick it out (because they can't transfer anymore) and bring up test scores.

I thought the same thing, but no.
The numbers have to be balanced on both ends. It’s not enough to add UMC you have to have fewer poor kids. If you have 100 units of low income housing to one single family home, you will not get the right mix.
I’ve watched this play out in South Arlignton. It sucks, but housing policy is school
Policy.

What schools are unaccredited in South Arlington?

I think they are all accredited. Just a few that perennially underperform. Always have. Always will.

I thought so. I stand by my prediction of 3 years to accreditation for JH. Whether it will be a perennial underperformer is a separate matter.

Fine. It will be accredited and it still
Won’t matter.
But you’ll be right, so there’s that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it has to be hopelessly naïve. Sitting next to Connor and Elise might not counteract the issue, but it does educate Connor and Elise on the diversity of life. I grew up in a poor black community (I am white) and don't think there has to be naiveté in the decision.

Likely because you haven't experienced it.

Disruptive kids or kids who lag behind are not going to be popular or befriended by Connor and Elise. They will learn to look at them with pity ("Be nice to them! They have less than you!" says their parent in a belief that is helpful) or annoyance (Larlo! Stop distracting your friends! says the teacher every few minutes)

I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
I have experienced it (I'm the poster who doesn't believe it has to be naïve). I come from a poor black community with horrible schools. The schools in Del Ray are amazing compared to the schools I went to. Now, after getting a great ACT scores, going to great colleges, I am UMC living in Del Ray and have started sending my child to the local public school.

What I learned is that it doesn't matter where you come from, given support you can succeed. I learned that you shouldn't pity those kids from bad families or treat them differently than any other kid. I learned to have a little compassion for the children who are not getting the support they need. I don't think my daughter is going to BFFs with the kid from a different background necessarily - she will learn that people are all different though.

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Anonymous wrote:My real experience was checking out recess. Holy cow the language and behavior was ... well, not shocking. Completely expected actually. I wouldn’t accept that from my kids.
I’ve been around other schools at recess in Arlington, and it was night and day.
No thank you.

What school--JH or MVCS?

JH

Are the teachers ok with random adults 'checking out' recess? That seems more alarming to me than the language of the kids.

You are aware that school playgrounds are visible to millions and millions of people on a daily basis, right?

Wow! That's a lot of people passing by on a daily basis.

Plenty of people use that nearby playground and witness the atrocious behavior.

I and others have told this several times- We have seen and heard on more than one occasion several moms screaming at their kids that they will "beat their black ass" if they don't do what theyre demanding.

It is a total 180 from the parenting techniques employed by the educated Del Ray parents.

Raise your hand if you want your kid sitting next to those kids.

I wouldn’t want my kid going home with that kid to be supervised by those parents, but sitting in school together? Why not? The parent isn’t in charge at school, and the kid deserves all the support he/she can get.

Because these are kids that were raised believing that cursing and hitting are acceptable ways of communicating? Because kids like that don't have a clue about treating people with respect? Because kids like that have been verbally abused for years and will in turn abuse others?

You really don't understand that?

“Those kids?”

“Kids like that?”

And you really want us to believe that you’re not racist???

Agree with the poster who said - if you don’t think being with kids from households with higher socioeconomic status and higher level of parent education is going to have an effect on kids from lower socioeconomic status and lower levels of parent education, then why would the opposite be true? You can’t claim that an effect will go one way but not the other. It will do your upper middle class (obviously white) child a world of good to be exposed to kids from different backgrounds.

And honestly, after the whole nation has learned what DC independent school kids are really like, I’m public all the way now.

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Anonymous wrote:My real experience was checking out recess. Holy cow the language and behavior was ... well, not shocking. Completely expected actually. I wouldn’t accept that from my kids.
I’ve been around other schools at recess in Arlington, and it was night and day.
No thank you.

What school--JH or MVCS?

JH

Are the teachers ok with random adults 'checking out' recess? That seems more alarming to me than the language of the kids.

You are aware that school playgrounds are visible to millions and millions of people on a daily basis, right?

Wow! That's a lot of people passing by on a daily basis.

Plenty of people use that nearby playground and witness the atrocious behavior.

I and others have told this several times- We have seen and heard on more than one occasion several moms screaming at their kids that they will "beat their black ass" if they don't do what theyre demanding.

It is a total 180 from the parenting techniques employed by the educated Del Ray parents.

Raise your hand if you want your kid sitting next to those kids.

I wouldn’t want my kid going home with that kid to be supervised by those parents, but sitting in school together? Why not? The parent isn’t in charge at school, and the kid deserves all the support he/she can get.

Because these are kids that were raised believing that cursing and hitting are acceptable ways of communicating? Because kids like that don't have a clue about treating people with respect? Because kids like that have been verbally abused for years and will in turn abuse others?

You really don't understand that?

“Those kids?”

“Kids like that?”

And you really want us to believe that you’re not racist???

Agree with the poster who said - if you don’t think being with kids from households with higher socioeconomic status and higher level of parent education is going to have an effect on kids from lower socioeconomic status and lower levels of parent education, then why would the opposite be true? You can’t claim that an effect will go one way but not the other. It will do your upper middle class (obviously white) child a world of good to be exposed to kids from different backgrounds.

And honestly, after the whole nation has learned what DC independent school kids are really like, I’m public all the way now.

This thread goes from one over-generalization to the next. Yikes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My real experience was checking out recess. Holy cow the language and behavior was ... well, not shocking. Completely expected actually. I wouldn’t accept that from my kids.
I’ve been around other schools at recess in Arlington, and it was night and day.
No thank you.

What school--JH or MVCS?

JH

Are the teachers ok with random adults 'checking out' recess? That seems more alarming to me than the language of the kids.

You are aware that school playgrounds are visible to millions and millions of people on a daily basis, right?

Wow! That's a lot of people passing by on a daily basis.

Plenty of people use that nearby playground and witness the atrocious behavior.

I and others have told this several times- We have seen and heard on more than one occasion several moms screaming at their kids that they will "beat their black ass" if they don't do what theyre demanding.

It is a total 180 from the parenting techniques employed by the educated Del Ray parents.

Raise your hand if you want your kid sitting next to those kids.

I wouldn’t want my kid going home with that kid to be supervised by those parents, but sitting in school together? Why not? The parent isn’t in charge at school, and the kid deserves all the support he/she can get.

Because these are kids that were raised believing that cursing and hitting are acceptable ways of communicating? Because kids like that don't have a clue about treating people with respect? Because kids like that have been verbally abused for years and will in turn abuse others?

You really don't understand that?

“Those kids?”

“Kids like that?”

And you really want us to believe that you’re not racist???

Agree with the poster who said - if you don’t think being with kids from households with higher socioeconomic status and higher level of parent education is going to have an effect on kids from lower socioeconomic status and lower levels of parent education, then why would the opposite be true? You can’t claim that an effect will go one way but not the other. It will do your upper middle class (obviously white) child a world of good to be exposed to kids from different backgrounds.

And honestly, after the whole nation has learned what DC independent school kids are really like, I’m public all the way now.

Whatever

Have fun in your make believe world.

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Whatever

Have fun in your make believe world.

That make believe world filled with people of different ethnicities and varying socio-economic status, who all have to live on the same planet? Pretty sure that's not make-believe. The fantasy world is where you only ever have to relate and converse with people from the same background as you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it has to be hopelessly naïve. Sitting next to Connor and Elise might not counteract the issue, but it does educate Connor and Elise on the diversity of life. I grew up in a poor black community (I am white) and don't think there has to be naiveté in the decision.

Likely because you haven't experienced it.

Disruptive kids or kids who lag behind are not going to be popular or befriended by Connor and Elise. They will learn to look at them with pity ("Be nice to them! They have less than you!" says their parent in a belief that is helpful) or annoyance (Larlo! Stop distracting your friends! says the teacher every few minutes)

I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
I have experienced it (I'm the poster who doesn't believe it has to be naïve). I come from a poor black community with horrible schools. The schools in Del Ray are amazing compared to the schools I went to. Now, after getting a great ACT scores, going to great colleges, I am UMC living in Del Ray and have started sending my child to the local public school.

What I learned is that it doesn't matter where you come from, given support you can succeed. I learned that you shouldn't pity those kids from bad families or treat them differently than any other kid. I learned to have a little compassion for the children who are not getting the support they need. I don't think my daughter is going to BFFs with the kid from a different background necessarily - she will learn that people are all different though.

That may very well be the case but it's not a valid comparison. In this area, the schools in Del Ray are horrible compared to the school a few miles away in Arlington Co.

And what happens in the schools is by 2nd grade the kids are self segregating. They want to hang out with kids like themselves and I think that is pretty normal. They do learn that kids are different and they don't need their parents to tell them that a mom who shows up and curses at her kids or tells them they are going to get hit is way different then the mom who shows up and gives their kid a stern look and says they will talk about the issue later.

[Anonymous]

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Whatever

Have fun in your make believe world.

That make believe world filled with people of different ethnicities and varying socio-economic status, who all have to live on the same planet? Pretty sure that's not make-believe. The fantasy world is where you only ever have to relate and converse with people from the same background as you.

No. The make believe world where you're a racist for objecting to having rude, aggressive, foul mouthed, physically violent thugs sitting next to your kid while he learns algebra.

Next.

[Anonymous]

Earlier a poster implied that if your child spends a year at JH, an admin transfer can be procured....anyone have any details on that?

[Anonymous]

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Whatever

Have fun in your make believe world.

That make believe world filled with people of different ethnicities and varying socio-economic status, who all have to live on the same planet? Pretty sure that's not make-believe. The fantasy world is where you only ever have to relate and converse with people from the same background as you.

Something tells me you think all Trump voters are Klansmen and all Kavanaugh believers are rapists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Earlier a poster implied that if your child spends a year at JH, an admin transfer can be procured....anyone have any details on that?

No - no more administrative transfers, which is as it should be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Earlier a poster implied that if your child spends a year at JH, an admin transfer can be procured....anyone have any details on that?

No - no more administrative transfers, which is as it should be.

Exactly. Let families understand that they will be paying for private or moving. Too much grey area before.

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Anonymous wrote:Earlier a poster implied that if your child spends a year at JH, an admin transfer can be procured....anyone have any details on that?

No - no more administrative transfers, which is as it should be.

And yet I personally know several families that have received transfers this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Earlier a poster implied that if your child spends a year at JH, an admin transfer can be procured....anyone have any details on that?

No - no more administrative transfers, which is as it should be.

And yet I personally know several families that have received transfers this year.

Oo...any details you can provide as to how they go those transfers?