What % of the class was held back/red-shirted?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One boy with a late Spring birthday started pk at 4
One boy with a late summer birthday, ie right before the 9/1 cut off, started pk at 5. Spring boy very tall for his age and is doing well in school summer boy average height but emotionally a bit young and is also doing very well in school. People should not be concerned about the age of other kids in the class. As long as your child is learning and thriving, what business is it of anyone how old another child is?


It is my business when my kid is being judged against kids 15 months older for sports teams, higher academic tracks, and social skills. My 11 year old was in class with 13 year olds last year. It is ridiculous.


This!


Fortunately, there is an easy solution to this. Do not go to this private school. Problem solved.


Start naming the private schools that create this sort of student body class so we know. Who are they?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One boy with a late Spring birthday started pk at 4
One boy with a late summer birthday, ie right before the 9/1 cut off, started pk at 5. Spring boy very tall for his age and is doing well in school summer boy average height but emotionally a bit young and is also doing very well in school. People should not be concerned about the age of other kids in the class. As long as your child is learning and thriving, what business is it of anyone how old another child is?


It is my business when my kid is being judged against kids 15 months older for sports teams, higher academic tracks, and social skills. My 11 year old was in class with 13 year olds last year. It is ridiculous.



False claim. Most rec leagues and travel teams use age-based, not grade-based, criteria. For academic tracks, either your kid belongs on the track or not -- age has nothing to do with it. Social skills are something a parent teaches so you've either done a good job at it or not, PP. Sounds like you haven't done a good job of it if it is your concern.


Also for our summer child who started on time, we have to tell summer camps to put her with the X+1 year olds since those are her classmates, not the X yos who are in a grade below here. I cannot wait for things to be grade based or calendar year based. Of course then all the dad's cheer about having a Jan kid who makes the cut... So funny. You should see them go beserk when they meet actual talent - like that 3 yo who swims with the 7 yos and plays soccer in a league double her age. Beserk.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My kids go to big 3. In one K class, there was one redshirted boy and a couple boys with April/May birthdays who started on time. There was also one redshirted girl. In my other kid's class there were two redshirted girls and no redshirted boys. In fact, there are several boys with late spring and summer birthdays. So, IME, redshirting is fairly uncommon and has little to no impact on class dynamics, especially as kids get older. The kids who mature the fastest are not necessarily the oldest. Instead, things like having older siblings,etc matter much more.


If the ‘late’ birthdays in a class of 20+ kids are April/May, that tells you something about who gets in.

In a public school class of the same size, you would have a number of summer birthdays.


Just to be clear, in one kid's class, the latest birthdays of "on time" boys were April/May, but there were on time girls with summer birthdays. In the other kid's class, there are at least three on time boys with birthdays in July/Aug. So, despite what you think, there's simply not a ton of redshirting going on at least at our school.


I would like this school. I'm going to assume it is GDS, a school we increasingly are liking for a variety of reasons.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One boy with a late Spring birthday started pk at 4
One boy with a late summer birthday, ie right before the 9/1 cut off, started pk at 5. Spring boy very tall for his age and is doing well in school summer boy average height but emotionally a bit young and is also doing very well in school. People should not be concerned about the age of other kids in the class. As long as your child is learning and thriving, what business is it of anyone how old another child is?


It is my business when my kid is being judged against kids 15 months older for sports teams, higher academic tracks, and social skills. My 11 year old was in class with 13 year olds last year. It is ridiculous.


This!


Fortunately, there is an easy solution to this. Do not go to this private school. Problem solved.


Start naming the private schools that create this sort of student body class so we know. Who are they?


Do you know how to use a telephone? Are you always this helpless in life?

Maybe you should call the admissions director for the private schools you are interested in and ask that person to generate a personalized spreadsheet of birth dates so you can judge for yourself.
Anonymous
At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)


If their birthdays are after September they won't be starting when already six. They will be fine then turn six. Unless you are saying they are six turning seven, which I do not believe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)


Interesting. I assume the families make the decision planning to go to a school with a lot of redshirting. They’re kind of a feeder to Sidwell, Beauvoir, etc. right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)


same for river school and Temple Sinai school; vast majority of kids did PK as 5 yos in order to start K already 6 yo.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)


Interesting. I assume the families make the decision planning to go to a school with a lot of redshirting. They’re kind of a feeder to Sidwell, Beauvoir, etc. right?


If you're bent on redshirting your spring or summer child, why would you care? it's not like there are any private schools that put an upper band on age. some, more than others may try to keep a balance, but then they need to be effective at teaching a wide range of ages in a classroom and at dealing with different social issues that come up over the years due to having a wide range of ages in a grade (i.e. puberty, dating, tweens making fun of adolescents, teens making fun of tweens, etc.).
Anonymous
My kid is in gds lower school. When they were PK/K, no kids from the class were held back, no kids from the K only class either. At least one class of Pk/k had kids who were barely 4 when they started. In my kid's current grade, there are some kids who are 13 months older than my child. Kid survives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)


same for river school and Temple Sinai school; vast majority of kids did PK as 5 yos in order to start K already 6 yo.


Not true of River.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid is in gds lower school. When they were PK/K, no kids from the class were held back, no kids from the K only class either. At least one class of Pk/k had kids who were barely 4 when they started. In my kid's current grade, there are some kids who are 13 months older than my child. Kid survives.


Thank you for providing some actual information. This is helpful.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)


Interesting. I assume the families make the decision planning to go to a school with a lot of redshirting. They’re kind of a feeder to Sidwell, Beauvoir, etc. right?


If you're bent on redshirting your spring or summer child, why would you care? it's not like there are any private schools that put an upper band on age. some, more than others may try to keep a balance, but then they need to be effective at teaching a wide range of ages in a classroom and at dealing with different social issues that come up over the years due to having a wide range of ages in a grade (i.e. puberty, dating, tweens making fun of adolescents, teens making fun of tweens, etc.).


I’m sure there are some private schools that prefer redshirting and some that don’t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)


Interesting. I assume the families make the decision planning to go to a school with a lot of redshirting. They’re kind of a feeder to Sidwell, Beauvoir, etc. right?


If you're bent on redshirting your spring or summer child, why would you care? it's not like there are any private schools that put an upper band on age. some, more than others may try to keep a balance, but then they need to be effective at teaching a wide range of ages in a classroom and at dealing with different social issues that come up over the years due to having a wide range of ages in a grade (i.e. puberty, dating, tweens making fun of adolescents, teens making fun of tweens, etc.).


I’m sure there are some private schools that prefer redshirting and some that don’t.


Fascinating observation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)


If their birthdays are after September they won't be starting when already six. They will be fine then turn six. Unless you are saying they are six turning seven, which I do not believe.


All the ones that stayed were born between May and August
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