What % of the class was held back/red-shirted?

[Anonymous]

Sounds like a classroom/playground management issue. Which school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So don't send your kids to private school if you don't like redshirting. Problem solved.

This, unlike public schools, private schools are very open about where they stand on ideal cutoff dates. All you need to do is ask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well you cannot make this decision in a silo any longer. It used to be well, my kid is ready to sit, focus, learn. Or not.
Now it is, is my kid socially, academically, behaviorly, able to be the youngest by 12-18 mos in his/her class grade year after year after year.
Other parents decision to redshirt absolutely affects the class dynamic.

I could not agree more with this post.

Me too.
This whole “I do what’s right for my kid and you mind your own business” is such bullshit.
My kid is in 7th with a kid who is about to turn 14. FOURTEEN.
Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Oh just chicken out and hold-back your kid too. She or he can be one of the giant ones turning 7 at the end of kindergarten.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God you people are complainers. Cry me a river! Just deal.

+1,000 my kids have had about a 16 month range of birthdays in their classes. They've been among the oldest and youngest (although actually followed the cutoffs). They really didn't find this to be a big deal AT ALL.

This hasn't been my DCs' experience. All of my DCs have been physically hurt multiple times by the held back boys who were large for their age and larger because they were held back. They problem is, a lot of parents hold back their boys because they think they're not ready behaviourwise. The truth is, a lot of these boys are just brats because there is no discipline in their homes so, another year doesn't change these boys' behaviour.

Agree. The quantity of spoiled brats is quite high in DC private schools. I don’t know how the teachers do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh just chicken out and hold-back your kid too. She or he can be one of the giant ones turning 7 at the end of kindergarten.

Well it’s gotten so bad that I actually would not complain about a kid turning 7 at the END of k. (June)
What I can’t stand is the kids turning 7 in March and April of the K year. That shouldn’t be allowed.
Or worse - we have “reclassed” kids who were old for their grade and then held back when they switched schools in upper elementary.
Hence the 14 year old 7th grader.

If your kid is going to have to be 14 in 7th to make it work, it’s not the school for you. Find a different school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God you people are complainers. Cry me a river! Just deal.

+1,000 my kids have had about a 16 month range of birthdays in their classes. They've been among the oldest and youngest (although actually followed the cutoffs). They really didn't find this to be a big deal AT ALL.

This hasn't been my DCs' experience. All of my DCs have been physically hurt multiple times by the held back boys who were large for their age and larger because they were held back. They problem is, a lot of parents hold back their boys because they think they're not ready behaviourwise. The truth is, a lot of these boys are just brats because there is no discipline in their homes so, another year doesn't change these boys' behaviour.

Agree. The quantity of spoiled brats is quite high in DC private schools. I don’t know how the teachers do it.

Dog bites man.

The questions are:
What does the school do about managing behavior regardless off the ages of the students?
What is the schools age cutoff policy?
Do any of you take your concerns to admin?

It’s a private school. You are choosing it.

[Anonymous]

Funny, just overheard two parents laughing how their kids already did PK3-K at XYZ pre-school and now get to do K again at our K-12. so cool. kid had the same smug attitude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God you people are complainers. Cry me a river! Just deal.

+1,000 my kids have had about a 16 month range of birthdays in their classes. They've been among the oldest and youngest (although actually followed the cutoffs). They really didn't find this to be a big deal AT ALL.

This hasn't been my DCs' experience. All of my DCs have been physically hurt multiple times by the held back boys who were large for their age and larger because they were held back. They problem is, a lot of parents hold back their boys because they think they're not ready behaviourwise. The truth is, a lot of these boys are just brats because there is no discipline in their homes so, another year doesn't change these boys' behaviour.

Agree. The quantity of spoiled brats is quite high in DC private schools. I don’t know how the teachers do it.

Dog bites man.

The questions are:
What does the school do about managing behavior regardless off the ages of the students?
What is the schools age cutoff policy?
Do any of you take your concerns to admin?

It’s a private school. You are choosing it.

Of course we took our concerns to the administration. They didn't do anything because they kids were teacher's kids. And of course we chose the school, but it's not that easy switching schools. The kids have their routines, friends, and activities and to disrupt that due to a couple of ill mannered kids when everything else is going great seems to be an inappropriate reaction. Teacher kids, large donors, and longtime families with a lot of kids enrolled trump all. There is a diferent set of runs for them. My DCs have attended several private schools. It's the same at all of the schools, so switching schools wouldn't necessarily improve the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God you people are complainers. Cry me a river! Just deal.

+1,000 my kids have had about a 16 month range of birthdays in their classes. They've been among the oldest and youngest (although actually followed the cutoffs). They really didn't find this to be a big deal AT ALL.

This hasn't been my DCs' experience. All of my DCs have been physically hurt multiple times by the held back boys who were large for their age and larger because they were held back. They problem is, a lot of parents hold back their boys because they think they're not ready behaviourwise. The truth is, a lot of these boys are just brats because there is no discipline in their homes so, another year doesn't change these boys' behaviour.

Agree. The quantity of spoiled brats is quite high in DC private schools. I don’t know how the teachers do it.

Dog bites man.

The questions are:
What does the school do about managing behavior regardless off the ages of the students?
What is the schools age cutoff policy?
Do any of you take your concerns to admin?

It’s a private school. You are choosing it.

Of course we took our concerns to the administration. They didn't do anything because they kids were teacher's kids. And of course we chose the school, but it's not that easy switching schools. The kids have their routines, friends, and activities and to disrupt that due to a couple of ill mannered kids when everything else is going great seems to be an inappropriate reaction. Teacher kids, large donors, and longtime families with a lot of kids enrolled trump all. There is a diferent set of runs for them. My DCs have attended several private schools. It's the same at all of the schools, so switching schools wouldn't necessarily improve the situation.

So then send your kid to public. Redshirting is much less prevalent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God you people are complainers. Cry me a river! Just deal.

+1,000 my kids have had about a 16 month range of birthdays in their classes. They've been among the oldest and youngest (although actually followed the cutoffs). They really didn't find this to be a big deal AT ALL.

This hasn't been my DCs' experience. All of my DCs have been physically hurt multiple times by the held back boys who were large for their age and larger because they were held back. They problem is, a lot of parents hold back their boys because they think they're not ready behaviourwise. The truth is, a lot of these boys are just brats because there is no discipline in their homes so, another year doesn't change these boys' behaviour.

Agree. The quantity of spoiled brats is quite high in DC private schools. I don’t know how the teachers do it.

Dog bites man.

The questions are:
What does the school do about managing behavior regardless off the ages of the students?
What is the schools age cutoff policy?
Do any of you take your concerns to admin?

It’s a private school. You are choosing it.

Of course we took our concerns to the administration. They didn't do anything because they kids were teacher's kids. And of course we chose the school, but it's not that easy switching schools. The kids have their routines, friends, and activities and to disrupt that due to a couple of ill mannered kids when everything else is going great seems to be an inappropriate reaction. Teacher kids, large donors, and longtime families with a lot of kids enrolled trump all. There is a diferent set of runs for them. My DCs have attended several private schools. It's the same at all of the schools, so switching schools wouldn't necessarily improve the situation.

I am sorry all of your kids have been hurt, and I agree it difficult to change schools for a variety of reasons. But if ALL of your kids have been hurt MULTIPLE times, that seems pretty serious to me. And from teachers kids? How good are the teachers at running a classroom if they can't even handle their own kids? Red shirting seems to be the least of the problem at this school from your description. We have also attended several different schools, and I assure you that not all schools have administrations with two sets of rules or giant red shirted kids running amok. I might be worth a look. There may be a better way for your family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God you people are complainers. Cry me a river! Just deal.

+1,000 my kids have had about a 16 month range of birthdays in their classes. They've been among the oldest and youngest (although actually followed the cutoffs). They really didn't find this to be a big deal AT ALL.

This hasn't been my DCs' experience. All of my DCs have been physically hurt multiple times by the held back boys who were large for their age and larger because they were held back. They problem is, a lot of parents hold back their boys because they think they're not ready behaviourwise. The truth is, a lot of these boys are just brats because there is no discipline in their homes so, another year doesn't change these boys' behaviour.

Agree. The quantity of spoiled brats is quite high in DC private schools. I don’t know how the teachers do it.

Dog bites man.

The questions are:
What does the school do about managing behavior regardless off the ages of the students?
What is the schools age cutoff policy?
Do any of you take your concerns to admin?

It’s a private school. You are choosing it.

Of course we took our concerns to the administration. They didn't do anything because they kids were teacher's kids. And of course we chose the school, but it's not that easy switching schools. The kids have their routines, friends, and activities and to disrupt that due to a couple of ill mannered kids when everything else is going great seems to be an inappropriate reaction. Teacher kids, large donors, and longtime families with a lot of kids enrolled trump all. There is a diferent set of runs for them. My DCs have attended several private schools. It's the same at all of the schools, so switching schools wouldn't necessarily improve the situation.

I am sorry all of your kids have been hurt, and I agree it difficult to change schools for a variety of reasons. But if ALL of your kids have been hurt MULTIPLE times, that seems pretty serious to me. And from teachers kids? How good are the teachers at running a classroom if they can't even handle their own kids? Red shirting seems to be the least of the problem at this school from your description. We have also attended several different schools, and I assure you that not all schools have administrations with two sets of rules or giant red shirted kids running amok. I might be worth a look. There may be a better way for your family.

Yes, so this PP has (by her own admission) switched amongst multiple private schools, has had her children repeatedly physically hurt in multiple different schools, and doesn't seem to understand how private school works in general (hint: they can set their own admissions policies which they are open about)?

I'm beginning to think the issue isn't actually the redshirted kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well you cannot make this decision in a silo any longer. It used to be well, my kid is ready to sit, focus, learn. Or not.
Now it is, is my kid socially, academically, behaviorly, able to be the youngest by 12-18 mos in his/her class grade year after year after year.
Other parents decision to redshirt absolutely affects the class dynamic.

I could not agree more with this post.

Me too.
This whole “I do what’s right for my kid and you mind your own business” is such bullshit.
My kid is in 7th with a kid who is about to turn 14. FOURTEEN.
Ridiculous.

Again, for the slow: This is private school. You are not obligated to attend. The schools can set their own admissions policies as they choose. You can call them to ask. You pay them tuition by your own choice. They make their own admissions choices.

It's like the posters on this thread do not understand how private school works.