What % of the class was held back/red-shirted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of my son’s last year class out of 12 students, 6 students with May-August birthday decided to stay. That is half of the class. I can’t speak for the other classes

Seems like a bizarre statistical outlier if fully half the kids in a class are born within a 3-4 month span. Or, the school is actually selecting for summer birthdays and wants them.

Perhaps you are not familiar with the school. They have two classes for each standard school year so in one class you have all kids born between May and October and in another, all kids born between November and April.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When do you consider redshirting?

What about a micropremie - so she was born in May but developmentally she's behind? I'm really struggling with when to start her... She will be 5 next May, but could really use another year of prek. But we're not UMC, barely MC... Can't really afford another year of pk.

Forget DCUM judgment and do what is best for your kid. I would try to scramble and redshirt myself (special needs Mom).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of my son’s last year class out of 12 students, 6 students with May-August birthday decided to stay. That is half of the class. I can’t speak for the other classes

Seems like a bizarre statistical outlier if fully half the kids in a class are born within a 3-4 month span. Or, the school is actually selecting for summer birthdays and wants them.

dp: it’s faulty data. The class covers 6 months of kids born May-Oct. Not clear if she’s including Sept/Oct bdays or not. Either way, she’s not including the class of Nov-April kids in her denominator.

The May-Aug kids who stay for Year 3 will be 6 before the next school year, and then most or all of those kids will go onto K.

But Year 3 at NCRC is great, so it adds incentive to redshirt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of my son’s last year class out of 12 students, 6 students with May-August birthday decided to stay. That is half of the class. I can’t speak for the other classes

Seems like a bizarre statistical outlier if fully half the kids in a class are born within a 3-4 month span. Or, the school is actually selecting for summer birthdays and wants them.

dp: it’s faulty data. The class covers 6 months of kids born May-Oct. Not clear if she’s including Sept/Oct bdays or not. Either way, she’s not including the class of Nov-April kids in her denominator.

The May-Aug kids who stay for Year 3 will be 6 before the next school year, and then most or all of those kids will go onto K.

But Year 3 at NCRC is great, so it adds incentive to redshirt.

Again, in my son’s class (including only birthdays from May-October) 6 out of 12 are redshirted. Of these 6, all are born between May and August. I never claimed it to be a school average. Not faulty data, just facts from someone with eyes and ears on the ground

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of my son’s last year class out of 12 students, 6 students with May-August birthday decided to stay. That is half of the class. I can’t speak for the other classes

Seems like a bizarre statistical outlier if fully half the kids in a class are born within a 3-4 month span. Or, the school is actually selecting for summer birthdays and wants them.

dp: it’s faulty data. The class covers 6 months of kids born May-Oct. Not clear if she’s including Sept/Oct bdays or not. Either way, she’s not including the class of Nov-April kids in her denominator.

The May-Aug kids who stay for Year 3 will be 6 before the next school year, and then most or all of those kids will go onto K.

But Year 3 at NCRC is great, so it adds incentive to redshirt.

Again, in my son’s class (including only birthdays from May-October) 6 out of 12 are redshirted. Of these 6, all are born between May and August. I never claimed it to be a school average. Not faulty data, just facts from someone with eyes and ears on the ground

And, the other classes (combined with my son’s form a whole year/class) includes kids born Nov-April and I am sure not many of kids are redshirted with those birthdays.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At NCRC half the class (with birthdays from throughout october) was redshirted (the kids will start K when already 6)

same for river school and Temple Sinai school; vast majority of kids did PK as 5 yos in order to start K already 6 yo.

Not true of River.

+1, at least for 3 year olds pulled out for PK. I know about 5 of those and they all started PK at 4 and then went to K at 5 at GDS and Beauvoir.

I thought that too, then I saw they did PK at River and then PK again at Big 3, not K. Oh well.

Yah, because you are full of shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well you cannot make this decision in a silo any longer. It used to be well, my kid is ready to sit, focus, learn. Or not.
Now it is, is my kid socially, academically, behaviorly, able to be the youngest by 12-18 mos in his/her class grade year after year after year.
Other parents decision to redshirt absolutely affects the class dynamic.

I agree with this 100 percent. My summer birthday child was 6 months younger than the next oldest student. There were 4 kids that were more than a year older and one that was a year and a half older. He’s taller than average and was an excellent student so he managed but the red shirting in some cases has hotten ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Why is no one naming schools?
I’ll start.
Tons of redshirting at SSSAS. Not just summer boys - spring boys too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of my son’s last year class out of 12 students, 6 students with May-August birthday decided to stay. That is half of the class. I can’t speak for the other classes

Seems like a bizarre statistical outlier if fully half the kids in a class are born within a 3-4 month span. Or, the school is actually selecting for summer birthdays and wants them.

dp: it’s faulty data. The class covers 6 months of kids born May-Oct. Not clear if she’s including Sept/Oct bdays or not. Either way, she’s not including the class of Nov-April kids in her denominator.

The May-Aug kids who stay for Year 3 will be 6 before the next school year, and then most or all of those kids will go onto K.

But Year 3 at NCRC is great, so it adds incentive to redshirt.

Again, in my son’s class (including only birthdays from May-October) 6 out of 12 are redshirted. Of these 6, all are born between May and August. I never claimed it to be a school average. Not faulty data, just facts from someone with eyes and ears on the ground

And, the other classes (combined with my son’s form a whole year/class) includes kids born Nov-April and I am sure not many of kids are redshirted with those birthdays.

Okay, but then way you presented it is pretty different than the reality.

[Anonymous]

Omg, it’s none of your beeswax.
I bunch your undies and have a good swift drink already. Even if it’s the morning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Omg, it’s none of your beeswax.
I bunch your undies and have a good swift drink already. Even if it’s the morning.

I do not think DCUM'S resident anti-redshirt posters are capable of unbunching their undies. I have never met a group as peculiarly fixated on an issue that's so wholly irrelevant, that is statistically quite rare, and for which they can never come up with any good science to explain why they are so utterly panicked about the issue.

Good advice, though.

[Anonymous]

What’s the issue at hand again? Op said a bunch of mumble jumble. Is the issue what should parents if summer Lissner do given the significant amount of redshirting in dC private schools for summer and even spring children?

I would speak to the schools and parents for which way each school leans in this. Is here a balanced class of ages or not so much? Ask what the bday composition is and then decide if you want to be part of the older half and redshirt or the youngest tenth of the grade.

That’s all you can do. As shown here, people constantly stop themselves from nasty comments. Likely one person but still.

[Anonymous]

Wow. I have a child with an early December birthday whom we had no choice but to “hold back.” He is in class with some kids who are 18 months older. He holds his own academically, it is a bit young on the social side.

I have never blamed other parents who decided to hold their kids back for the fact that my son is on the youngish side socially. No matter when kids go to school, some will be more immature than others. The oldest kid in my son’s class last year was extremely shy, and I could totally see why he was held back. I felt a little sorry for him, though, because other kids knew he was older and sometimes made a thing out of it.

I have an early September birthday, and I was the youngest kid in my class growing up. It wasn’t until I was a mom that I realized that was why I was somewhat socially clueless, i.e. not into the gossiping, clothes, and boys that started at 5th grade for many of my classmates. Or, that could have been a personality thing. Who knows?

Trying to game the system when it comes to redshirting is a silly, fruitless endeavor. Even if a certain grade looked a certain way one year, it is not necessarily predictive of the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I have a child with an early December birthday whom we had no choice but to “hold back.” He is in class with some kids who are 18 months older. He holds his own academically, it is a bit young on the social side.

I have never blamed other parents who decided to hold their kids back for the fact that my son is on the youngish side socially. No matter when kids go to school, some will be more immature than others. The oldest kid in my son’s class last year was extremely shy, and I could totally see why he was held back. I felt a little sorry for him, though, because other kids knew he was older and sometimes made a thing out of it.

I have an early September birthday, and I was the youngest kid in my class growing up. It wasn’t until I was a mom that I realized that was why I was somewhat socially clueless, i.e. not into the gossiping, clothes, and boys that started at 5th grade for many of my classmates. Or, that could have been a personality thing. Who knows?

Trying to game the system when it comes to redshirting is a silly, fruitless endeavor. Even if a certain grade looked a certain way one year, it is not necessarily predictive of the future.

How can your December birthday kid have classmates that are 18 months older? In DC a December kid is amongst the oldest in the class except for the fall and redshirted kids of course

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I have a child with an early December birthday whom we had no choice but to “hold back.” He is in class with some kids who are 18 months older. He holds his own academically, it is a bit young on the social side.

I have never blamed other parents who decided to hold their kids back for the fact that my son is on the youngish side socially. No matter when kids go to school, some will be more immature than others. The oldest kid in my son’s class last year was extremely shy, and I could totally see why he was held back. I felt a little sorry for him, though, because other kids knew he was older and sometimes made a thing out of it.

I have an early September birthday, and I was the youngest kid in my class growing up. It wasn’t until I was a mom that I realized that was why I was somewhat socially clueless, i.e. not into the gossiping, clothes, and boys that started at 5th grade for many of my classmates. Or, that could have been a personality thing. Who knows?

Trying to game the system when it comes to redshirting is a silly, fruitless endeavor. Even if a certain grade looked a certain way one year, it is not necessarily predictive of the future.

How can your December birthday kid have classmates that are 18 months older? In DC a December kid is amongst the oldest in the class except for the fall and redshirted kids of course

Um, not very bright are you? Hint: the answer is contained in your comments.