Do you think Range Rovers are tacky?

[Anonymous]

Break down in a Land Rover, no biggie...LR roadside assistance will come get you literally anywhere in the USA, fix your car, tow for free, change tire, get your locked keys out of your car, you name it. Closer to home I get a cushy new courtesy car while my car is getting fixed or for routine maintenance. They have even come to my house to make the vehicle exchange. Just had to exchange keys at my front door. Very nice people. My LR is going on 9 years and 130k Miles and still runs like new. It is awesome on long several-week road trips. We love it and would buy again.

You don’t appreciate exactly how extraordinary the vehicle is until you go off-roading in it even on a training course which I’ve been able to do several times.

A little strange to compare Land Rover to Tesla. I’m sure both great but completely different vehicles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the Land Rover brand seems ubiquitous to you, that says more about your high income environment than reality. LR is a low-production luxury brand comparatively. Worldwide, Mercedes produces about $2.3 million cars annually, BMW about $2 million, and Land Rover about 440,000.

Of the 440,000 vehicles Land Rover produces for the worldwide market annually, only about 75,000 are sold in the USA.

If you live in the wealthiest parts of the country, you will encounter very expensive products.

Mercedes and BMW have many lines of cars and most of their offerings are cheaper than the RR/LR. Range Rover / Land Rover is a niche brand. I don't think the comparison is apt.

FYI I don't like Range Rovers and would never buy one.

[Anonymous]

Pp 2:34 - you missed my point. Relatively few RR are distributed to the USA and most of those are concentrated in the wealthiest areas of the country.

Being offended by the tackiness of a particular brand of luxury you see in your rear view mirror (SO ubiquitous!) is like Marie Antoinette and her friends rolling their eyes at the neighbors new gold-leafed carriage.

Poor you, overwhelmed by the number of Louis Vuitton’s and Range Rovers in your life and debating Tesla’s vs. RRs.

[Anonymous]

Rich people battling it out over which luxury brand is most tacky...what were you saying about the “most awful caliber of people”?

[Anonymous]

Thurston Howel, Be glad you are not seeing a burned out wasteland of a town and God forbid a dusty rusty ol’ Dodge Ram or jacked up 1975 Monte Carlo in your rear view mirror. That might make your heart flutter a little more than a new RR.

[Anonymous]

I’ve driven the Toyota Highlander and think it is an excellent car. I’d be happy to have one. But better than a RR sport in every metric?

When is the last time a Highlander did this? Which would you really like to drive?


Range Rover Dragon Challenge

https://youtu.be/EUwzWHD3Htg

[Anonymous]

We are trading in soon - this thread makes me want to buy the RR so much more

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish I could buy one just for the pleasure of knowing you all are blowing a gasket over my “worst caliber of people”.

If it ticks your snotty noses off, all the better. Not that I could hear your green headed griping and tsk tsk-ing as I’d be enjoying such a smooth, quiet, plush ride ahhh..

Keep twisting yourselves up into jealous little pretzels while I enjoy my massage ( the Velar has massaging seats).

Oh wow, does it? That's incredible! How powerful is it? Subtle, or like one of those pedicure chairs they have in nail salons? I wish my Tesla had this feature.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I associate them with Paul Manafort sleaze and obnoxious Arabs.

Exactly! The fake it ‘til you make it crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve driven the Toyota Highlander and think it is an excellent car. I’d be happy to have one. But better than a RR sport in every metric?

When is the last time a Highlander did this? Which would you really like to drive?


Range Rover Dragon Challenge

https://youtu.be/EUwzWHD3Htg

Perhaps that wasn't accurate of me to say "every metric", because the RR does have more horsepower than our Highlander. I should've said "every metric that WE care about"... the greatest of which being not having it in the dealership every couple months for something not working.

I don't really care about how fast it goes around corners, because it will never go around corners better than the 2002 Corvette I've owned for a decade, and it will never perform better off-road than the 2011 Jeep Rubicon parked in the garage next to our Vette.

I've been a "car guy" my whole adult life. I've owned dozens of cars. Most of them were personality and ego cars. Sports cars, muscle cars, trucks to tow trailers hauling sports cars too twitchy to drive on the street, performance sedans, and very few "ordinary" cars. I knew the RR was going be trouble because I know cars. My wife, not so much. Sometimes you just have to let people see for themselves. She loved the Rover, but only until she realized it was garbage, which was sometime in the second year, after multiple weeks driving dealer loaners while hers was being fixed (again).

Everyone has to live and learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Break down in a Land Rover, no biggie...LR roadside assistance will come get you literally anywhere in the USA, fix your car, tow for free....

And let me tell ya, they STAY busy!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve driven the Toyota Highlander and think it is an excellent car. I’d be happy to have one. But better than a RR sport in every metric?

When is the last time a Highlander did this? Which would you really like to drive?


Range Rover Dragon Challenge

https://youtu.be/EUwzWHD3Htg

Perhaps that wasn't accurate of me to say "every metric", because the RR does have more horsepower than our Highlander. I should've said "every metric that WE care about"... the greatest of which being not having it in the dealership every couple months for something not working.

I don't really care about how fast it goes around corners, because it will never go around corners better than the 2002 Corvette I've owned for a decade, and it will never perform better off-road than the 2011 Jeep Rubicon parked in the garage next to our Vette.

I've been a "car guy" my whole adult life. I've owned dozens of cars. Most of them were personality and ego cars. Sports cars, muscle cars, trucks to tow trailers hauling sports cars too twitchy to drive on the street, performance sedans, and very few "ordinary" cars. I knew the RR was going be trouble because I know cars. My wife, not so much. Sometimes you just have to let people see for themselves. She loved the Rover, but only until she realized it was garbage, which was sometime in the second year, after multiple weeks driving dealer loaners while hers was being fixed (again).

Everyone has to live and learn.

I don’t think a guy who drives a 2002 vette as his “fun car” can afford to go out and buy a $100k RR as an “I told you so” experiment for his wife. Your story would have been more believable if she had traded in the Range for a 2005 Chevy Cobalt.

[Anonymous]

Preferred car of sleazy lobbyists and layabout foreigners desperate to convince strangers they're important and actually do something all day.

[Anonymous]

The other posters are right, Range Rover seems to send a lot of BMW/Mercedes/Honda/Toyota driving MC/UMC people into a jealous frenzy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve driven the Toyota Highlander and think it is an excellent car. I’d be happy to have one. But better than a RR sport in every metric?

When is the last time a Highlander did this? Which would you really like to drive?


Range Rover Dragon Challenge

https://youtu.be/EUwzWHD3Htg

Perhaps that wasn't accurate of me to say "every metric", because the RR does have more horsepower than our Highlander. I should've said "every metric that WE care about"... the greatest of which being not having it in the dealership every couple months for something not working.

I don't really care about how fast it goes around corners, because it will never go around corners better than the 2002 Corvette I've owned for a decade, and it will never perform better off-road than the 2011 Jeep Rubicon parked in the garage next to our Vette.

I've been a "car guy" my whole adult life. I've owned dozens of cars. Most of them were personality and ego cars. Sports cars, muscle cars, trucks to tow trailers hauling sports cars too twitchy to drive on the street, performance sedans, and very few "ordinary" cars. I knew the RR was going be trouble because I know cars. My wife, not so much. Sometimes you just have to let people see for themselves. She loved the Rover, but only until she realized it was garbage, which was sometime in the second year, after multiple weeks driving dealer loaners while hers was being fixed (again).

Everyone has to live and learn.

I don’t think a guy who drives a 2002 vette as his “fun car” can afford to go out and buy a $100k RR as an “I told you so” experiment for his wife. Your story would have been more believable if she had traded in the Range for a 2005 Chevy Cobalt.

Oh boy, here we go!!!


The Vette is the "fun" car because I built it. I bought it at an auction on a salvage title for $3,000 after some idiot wrecked it. See, I just wanted the cheapest C5 chassis I could find (cause I'm cheap like that!) Then I spent a couple years tinkering with it on weekends and in between other projects. I swapped in a Neil Parrot Racing LS-7 crate motor with a Vortec supercharger, 26lb injectors, 15mm fuel lines, Hurst short throw shift kit and racing clutch, Denon carbon fiber prop shaft, 4.10 final drive R&P, Brembo carbon cermaic 6 piston brakes, BBS wheels with Hoosier track tires, Bilstien suspension and remote reservoir shocks, Summit Racing fuel cell, Recaro seats and 5-point harnesses, and I made a custom cage using 1.250" DOM tube. If I paid retail for the parts and had someone else turning the wrenches, I'd figure I've got about $165,000 into the car, but if I sold it today I doubt I'd get more than $120,000 for it.

But it's a toy. I take it to Summit Point, VIR and Pocono every few weekends, but not nearly as often as I'd like to. But it's a blast to drive. No idea of a top-end, there's not enough road anywhere close to this area to find out. My guess, probably around 190, limited by the 4.10 rear. But cornering, braking and acceleration are where it really shines: 1.17 G / 300ft skidpad and 10.68 sec 0-100-0 / 10.011 quarter mile at 132.63 mph.

I've had lots of other fast and fun cars in the time I've owned the Vette, and I've kept most of them fairly stock, but the Vette is special to me because I've got so much time invested in bringing it back from the dead and turning it into a monster. I'll part with it one day for the right price, but it's going to be hard to find anything that can eclipse it. I even had a '92 Lambo Diablo for while, and even it couldn't match the Vette. And although I've owned several, the Italian cars don't really do much for me, maybe because I always get them 2nd and 3rd owner, and I always need to do something to them. Plus, VW really screwed things up when they started platform sharing and sticking their stuff into Lambos, so I'll probably never own one made after 2005 or so, since their ECU and PCM diagnostic stuff is all proprietary and a pain in the butt for anyone without dealership service support.


I told you I was car guy.... but I make my money on a place servicing heavy trucks. Not bad for a guy who never finished college, huh?