The Role of Anti-Clinton FBI Agents

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. I can name several actions, and have already, that raise a lot of suspicion about whether or not there was a valid reason to start investigating Trump for colluding with Russia. And that's what matters at this point, because the election is long over, yet the quest to find evidence of the Trump campaign's collusion carry on and on. It began on bogus grounds.

The investigation into the Trump campaign absolutely did not begin on bogus grounds. You have to be willfully ignorant of a considerable number of facts to suggest as much. You have Manafort who has committed an laundry list of crimes involving Russians and pro-Russia Ukrainians acting as campaign manager, George Papadopoulos drunkenly telling an Australian diplomat that the Russians have the DNC's emails, and a host of contacts between campaign officials and Russian intelligence figures. The FBI would have been delinquent not to investigate.

Also, keep in mind that the IG report was about the Clinton email investigation, not the Trump investigation. So, you are actually going off-topic.

Nothing that Manafort is in jail for relates to or shows any link to anything he did while working for Trump for 49 days. Many people believe that the Papadopoulos situation was a setup to create a reason.

And like another pp said, many of the same cast of characters worked on both the Hillary investigation and the Russia investigation, namely Strzok. They are intertwined.

So you are saying that Manafort, despite a history of criminal activities involving Russians or pro-Russian Ukrainians and working for free for Trump, should not have been investigated for ties to Russia? You guys keep bringing up that Manafort has not yet been charged with a crime committed during the 144 days (you don't count very well either) that he worked for Trump. BTW, that included managing the convention at which the Republican platform dealing with Ukraine was watered in a manner desired by Russia. This is a standard prosecutorial tactic. Even Republican Trey Gowdy agrees that the FBI was correct to open an investigation (but, of course that earned him RINO status despite his years of investigating Clinton).

[Anonymous]

Oh there's a relief. A statement from the Christopher Steele stating his made up Fusion-GPS material is accurate.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Oh there's a relief. A statement from the Christopher Steele stating his made up Fusion-GPS material is accurate.

Can you point out the specific parts that have been proven false?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Page wrote Strzok: "[Trump's] not ever going to become president, right? Right!?"

Strzok responded, "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."

And that was the end of it. What did they do to prevent Trump from becoming President? They could have leaked to Harry Reid just like the New York office leaked to Nunes. They could have leaked to the Clinton campaign the way the FBI office leaked to Giuliani. But, they behaved professionally. In the end, the FBI hurt Clinton and protected Trump. I don't know how you could argue otherwise.

Actually, that's not the end of it. This was the end of it...

Page wrote Strzok: "[Trump's] not ever going to become president, right? Right!?"




You get what I'm saying?

The next text was not turned over to Congress. Why?

No, I do not get what you are saying. What did Page or Strzok do to prevent Trump from becoming president? Name one action that prevented Trump from becoming president? You can't, and, I assume you know, Trump became President. Whatever Strzok and Page's personal feelings, they didn't take actions based on those feelings. Again, the New York office leaked to Nunes and Giuliani. That forced Comey to disclose the Weiner laptop emails. Strzok and Page did nothing and Trump was protected until after the election.

Do you get what I'm saying?

The reason Trump was elected was because the American public isn't stupid. They knew something was up re: Clinton and did not like the way this country was headed. It wasn't for lack of effort, trust me. They put a lot of disinformation out there and when it didn't work, executed their next set of plans.

The fact is, Strzok was in this up to his eyeballs, from the Hillary email issues to the FISA warrant(s) to the Dossier to the interviewing of Flynn. That's what makes his texts so troubling.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:
The reason Trump was elected was because the American public isn't stupid. They knew something was up re: Clinton and did not like the way this country was headed. It wasn't for lack of effort, trust me. They put a lot of disinformation out there and when it didn't work, executed their next set of plans.

The fact is, Strzok was in this up to his eyeballs, from the Hillary email issues to the FISA warrant(s) to the Dossier to the interviewing of Flynn. That's what makes his texts so troubling.

Any impression among the American public that something was up with Clinton was certainly bolstered by Comey's various actions, especially his last minute revelation about Weiner's laptop. That was triggered by leaks coming from anti-Clinton FBI agents. Regardless of Strzok's personal feelings, he did not leak anything about the Trump investigation. Could you imagine if a week before the election, rather than revealing Weiner's laptop, Comey had announced that Trump was being investigated for collision with Russia? If Comey and the FBI were really pro-Clinton, that is what would have happened.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh there's a relief. A statement from the Christopher Steele stating his made up Fusion-GPS material is accurate.

Can you point out the specific parts that have been proven false?

Have you seen the dossier?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh there's a relief. A statement from the Christopher Steele stating his made up Fusion-GPS material is accurate.

Maybe you just throw out whatever BS you can make up, but most of us verify information before we release it. Don't assume that the rest of the world operates the way you do. It would be the downfall of society if it did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh there's a relief. A statement from the Christopher Steele stating his made up Fusion-GPS material is accurate.

Maybe you just throw out whatever BS you can make up, but most of us verify information before we release it. Don't assume that the rest of the world operates the way you do. It would be the downfall of society if it did.

Have you seen the dossier? Is it available? What have YOU verified?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The FBI agents were disturbed by thousands of emails discovered on a pedophile's computer? And, Comey thought (according to Loretta Lynch who refused to recuse herself) that displayed a visceral hatred by the agents. That may have been Comey's excuse to her as to why they had to go public. We don't even know for sure that is what he told her.

Again, if the FBI had properly done their investigation, this computer would have been in FBI possession long before September. It was only discovered because of the Weiner conversations with a young girl (or someone pretending to be one--I don't recall that detail.)

There was plenty of evidence of guilt--yet no Grand Jury was convened. Unlike the Mueller investigation. Why didn't the FBI go into Weiner's house in the middle of the night? We know that HRC's IT guy mishandled and destroyed hardware--AFTER emails were subpoenaed. We know that the FBI let Mills sit in on HRC's testimony. We know that FBI agents knew HRC was lying. We know that Strozk was one of the agents who interviewed her. We know that FBI agents knew there were people allowed in her Chappaqua schiff who were lying. We know that Weiner had an amazing amount of access. And, yet, no Grand Jury.

We also know that "intent" (Sally Yates said there was no bad intent on Clinton's part) has nothing to do with innocence or guilt in the code.

And, for HRC to claim that "c" was alphabetical order on a document defies belief. She cannot possibly be that stupid. And, remember, she told one staffer to send classified information in one of those emails that was released by Wikileaks.

We also now know that Obama was communicating with her at this address and we now have confirmation that her computer was compromised by a foreign nation while in a foreign country--presumably Russia. This was in the report--the presumption of Russia was not.

Excellent summation. Unreal others don't get this. Willfully blind.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh there's a relief. A statement from the Christopher Steele stating his made up Fusion-GPS material is accurate.

Can you point out the specific parts that have been proven false?

Have you seen the dossier?

Yes, of course I have seen it. Haven't you? Please point out the specific parts that have been proven false.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The reason Trump was elected was because the American public isn't stupid. They knew something was up re: Clinton and did not like the way this country was headed. It wasn't for lack of effort, trust me. They put a lot of disinformation out there and when it didn't work, executed their next set of plans.

The fact is, Strzok was in this up to his eyeballs, from the Hillary email issues to the FISA warrant(s) to the Dossier to the interviewing of Flynn. That's what makes his texts so troubling.

Any impression among the American public that something was up with Clinton was certainly bolstered by Comey's various actions, especially his last minute revelation about Weiner's laptop. That was triggered by leaks coming from anti-Clinton FBI agents. Regardless of Strzok's personal feelings, he did not leak anything about the Trump investigation. Could you imagine if a week before the election, rather than revealing Weiner's laptop, Comey had announced that Trump was being investigated for collision with Russia? If Comey and the FBI were really pro-Clinton, that is what would have happened.

It's not just Strzok's personal feelings. It's also agent's #1, #2, #5, page, McCabe and of course, didn't Comey tell everyone he nearly cried tears when meeting with president Obama? Get real.

[Anonymous]

Then we have Eric Holder who turned a blind eye to almost everything the administration didn't care to pursue... and Loretta Lynch. I mean really. It gets a little ridiculous.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The reason Trump was elected was because the American public isn't stupid. They knew something was up re: Clinton and did not like the way this country was headed. It wasn't for lack of effort, trust me. They put a lot of disinformation out there and when it didn't work, executed their next set of plans.

The fact is, Strzok was in this up to his eyeballs, from the Hillary email issues to the FISA warrant(s) to the Dossier to the interviewing of Flynn. That's what makes his texts so troubling.

Any impression among the American public that something was up with Clinton was certainly bolstered by Comey's various actions, especially his last minute revelation about Weiner's laptop. That was triggered by leaks coming from anti-Clinton FBI agents. Regardless of Strzok's personal feelings, he did not leak anything about the Trump investigation. Could you imagine if a week before the election, rather than revealing Weiner's laptop, Comey had announced that Trump was being investigated for collision with Russia? If Comey and the FBI were really pro-Clinton, that is what would have happened.

It's not just Strzok's personal feelings. It's also agent's #1, #2, #5, page, McCabe and of course, didn't Comey tell everyone he nearly cried tears when meeting with president Obama? Get real.

Your position is that all these folks were completely in the bag for Clinton, yet took multiple actions to hurt her campaign while completely protecting Trump?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh there's a relief. A statement from the Christopher Steele stating his made up Fusion-GPS material is accurate.

Can you point out the specific parts that have been proven false?

Have you seen the dossier?

Yes, of course I have seen it. Haven't you? Please point out the specific parts that have been proven false.

It's not available. I don't know what you're looking at (buzzfeed?)


The veracity of that document is questioned.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The reason Trump was elected was because the American public isn't stupid. They knew something was up re: Clinton and did not like the way this country was headed. It wasn't for lack of effort, trust me. They put a lot of disinformation out there and when it didn't work, executed their next set of plans.

The fact is, Strzok was in this up to his eyeballs, from the Hillary email issues to the FISA warrant(s) to the Dossier to the interviewing of Flynn. That's what makes his texts so troubling.

Any impression among the American public that something was up with Clinton was certainly bolstered by Comey's various actions, especially his last minute revelation about Weiner's laptop. That was triggered by leaks coming from anti-Clinton FBI agents. Regardless of Strzok's personal feelings, he did not leak anything about the Trump investigation. Could you imagine if a week before the election, rather than revealing Weiner's laptop, Comey had announced that Trump was being investigated for collision with Russia? If Comey and the FBI were really pro-Clinton, that is what would have happened.

It's not just Strzok's personal feelings. It's also agent's #1, #2, #5, page, McCabe and of course, didn't Comey tell everyone he nearly cried tears when meeting with president Obama? Get real.

Your position is that all these folks were completely in the bag for Clinton, yet took multiple actions to hurt her campaign while completely protecting Trump?

Except their texts and conversations say otherwise.