Three black teens are finalists in a NASA competition. Then this happened...

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure NASA felt the voting idea was good outreach: a way to maybe get high school peers to come online and at least see what the different ideas entailed.
Too bad trolls got involved

Those girls rock. Great role models.

But that online public voting was a dumb idea. Do these "scientists" not understand how voting this way is easily rigged?

-signed an Asian American mom of a tween girl

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure NASA felt the voting idea was good outreach: a way to maybe get high school peers to come online and at least see what the different ideas entailed.
Too bad trolls got involved

Those girls rock. Great role models.

But that online public voting was a dumb idea. Do these "scientists" not understand how voting this way is easily rigged?

-signed an Asian American mom of a tween girl

My guess is that NASA isn’t super up on teenage behavior.

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Speaking as a woman that out competed men all my life, happens to women too. I don't know what it's like to be a high achieving man, but I assume you far e a heck of a lot less people trying to sabotage your work. I had my work sabotaged several times including a whole team of people working to undermine me at one point in science and later industry as well. It's much easier to be average than the best.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

NP. I say this respectfully, GO POUND SAND! I have no idea if you are white, black, Latino , Purple or Blue and Gray stripes, but just stop. What entitlement, arrogance and condescension it takes for someone to tell people who have been attacked that they need to just ignore the attack and focus on the good. Does it make you feel better to say that? Does it make you feel better to tell someone to ignore systemic discrimination and marginalization and say it's only a small group of people and not indicative an ENTIRE system of ingrained and institutionalized bias/racism/discrimination that runs deep in this nation? Dealing with this is emotionally, physically and psychologically taxing, and THIS SHIT HURTS! Stop telling us how to feel our feelings and what we should do with them to make YOU more comfortable. JUST. FREAKING. STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black PP here, I wouldn’t put it so emphatically, but I share your disdain of people who would minimize what we are talking about.

I'm the person to whom you are responding, I am a AA female, and yea, I'm EMPHATIC ABOUT THAT S***. LOLOL!
Can't we just damn live!!?

I am the PP that PPs are responding to, more or less emphatically. I am white. I was not marginalizing or condescending or telling anyone how to feel, particularly in relation to my feelings. Because it was received as such, I apologize.

When I posted, I was thinking of the studies that have shown that higher rates of experienced/perceived racism directly negatively impact the health of AA women in this country.

DP. I kinda doubt that's the point you were trying to make, because it's so easy to say it directly.

It's obvious these young women were targets of racism. What's not so obvious is that it negatively impacts everyone. If you have to go out of your way to find a silver lining, and call it concern for someone else's well-being, then it seems the experience AND the perception of racism are yours as well.

White people have to live with these displays of inhumanity, too.

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People suck. Particularly the 4chan and “very fine people” sort.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

When is it ever OK to say ALL of any group harbor the same bad qualities? You derailed an important thread by doing so.

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Anonymous wrote:Hopefully they can spin this publicity to ensure spots in top colleges.

UDC agree they come with their 4000k scholarship

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure NASA felt the voting idea was good outreach: a way to maybe get high school peers to come online and at least see what the different ideas entailed.
Too bad trolls got involved

Those girls rock. Great role models.

But that online public voting was a dumb idea. Do these "scientists" not understand how voting this way is easily rigged?

-signed an Asian American mom of a tween girl

My guess is that NASA isn’t super up on teenage behavior.

you don't need to know about teen behavior to realize that online voting is not a scientific way of getting accurate votes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why this is a big deal. Is that because AAs usually don't make it to the finals?

The big deal is that they got viciously attacked and undermined due to race. Duh?

Asians get attacked and undermined and profiled and made fun of all the time due to race, yet somehow it only makes them stronger.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/16/academy-sorry-for-offensive-chris-rock-asian-joke-no-word-from-chris-rock/?utm_term=.d5abd903642b

Racism is bad when it comes to blacks. It is acceptable when it comes to Asians. Your article proves it. I find it ironic that a black person was the offender

and jews

Because Jews and Asians are successful aka not URM democrats says its ok to be racist against them. This is why identiy politics is such bs. Racism is terrible period and needs to be rooted out period. Some of the most racist people in DC live in Ward 8.....

Yes, and Jews... I am an Asian and for the life of me I don’t understand why Jews are so hated by many. Seems to me they are smart and hard working people.

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Anonymous wrote:?......I don't know what it's like to be a high achieving man.......

Correct.

So you can stop right there.


But I'll tell you this much, since I actually do know, you better be TWICE as sharp as any woman you're up against, because if not, she's getting the job just because the female is the default choice for employers.