Three black teens are finalists in a NASA competition. Then this happened...

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

[Anonymous]

What kind of science competition relies on "public voting"??

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of science competition relies on "public voting"??

Outcome-based "science". That kind.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

Ok.

What would you say about a white person who grew up in a county where they were bussed to underperforming black schools far from their home, in order to intergrate schools and help raise test scores, and spent much of their youth being bullied, assaulted and robbed by classmates, simply because they were one of the only white children in that school?

If a person who grew up in that environment viewed all black people as hateful, potentially violent and worthy of being feared, would you suggest that white person harbors racial prejudices?

What are your feelings on this scenario?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

You might be surprised to know that parents these days don’t like their kids being edged out for awards and accolades, regardless of race.

Edged out? Maybe they should come up with better, very sophisticated projects like these students did. Bravo for them!!

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

Ok.

What would you say about a white person who grew up in a county where they were bussed to underperforming black schools far from their home, in order to intergrate schools and help raise test scores, and spent much of their youth being bullied, assaulted and robbed by classmates, simply because they were one of the only white children in that school?

If a person who grew up in that environment viewed all black people as hateful, potentially violent and worthy of being feared, would you suggest that white person harbors racial prejudices?

What are your feelings on this scenario?

My view is that you're engaged in some major deflecting strawman whataboutism bullshit. So just stop. You can think about hyptheticals until the cows come home, but that does NOT change the fact that racism against black people is very much still a thing in this country. I mean sure, Malcom X's zombie body rose from the dead and kidnapped your family, I'd say you were justified to greatly dislike Malcom X's zombie. That has f-all to do with OP's experience ... nor the experience of the 3 young women (the topic of this thread!) who were so brutally attacked online because of their blackness/femaleness.

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Is there a gofundme or anything like that for these girls??

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of science competition relies on "public voting"??

Outcome-based "science". That kind.

That something new? So, it's a popularity based science and not science based?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

You might be surprised to know that parents these days don’t like their kids being edged out for awards and accolades, regardless of race.

Black poster here. If it was just that, I would understand. But my experiences growing up had an unmistakable racial aspect that made it clear white parents were angry not only that their kids were edged out, but also that a black student had done it. You can believe me or pretend you know better.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

Ok.

What would you say about a white person who grew up in a county where they were bussed to underperforming black schools far from their home, in order to intergrate schools and help raise test scores, and spent much of their youth being bullied, assaulted and robbed by classmates, simply because they were one of the only white children in that school?

If a person who grew up in that environment viewed all black people as hateful, potentially violent and worthy of being feared, would you suggest that white person harbors racial prejudices?

What are your feelings on this scenario?

My view is that you're engaged in some major deflecting strawman whataboutism bullshit. So just stop. You can think about hyptheticals until the cows come home, but that does NOT change the fact that racism against black people is very much still a thing in this country. I mean sure, Malcom X's zombie body rose from the dead and kidnapped your family, I'd say you were justified to greatly dislike Malcom X's zombie. That has f-all to do with OP's experience ... nor the experience of the 3 young women (the topic of this thread!) who were so brutally attacked online because of their blackness/femaleness.

Ok, I'll ask it another way: is it even possible, in your opinion, for black people to harbor prejudicial beliefs? No strawman, no deflection, just a simple yes or no will suffice

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

Ok.

What would you say about a white person who grew up in a county where they were bussed to underperforming black schools far from their home, in order to intergrate schools and help raise test scores, and spent much of their youth being bullied, assaulted and robbed by classmates, simply because they were one of the only white children in that school?

If a person who grew up in that environment viewed all black people as hateful, potentially violent and worthy of being feared, would you suggest that white person harbors racial prejudices?

What are your feelings on this scenario?

My view is that you're engaged in some major deflecting strawman whataboutism bullshit. So just stop. You can think about hyptheticals until the cows come home, but that does NOT change the fact that racism against black people is very much still a thing in this country. I mean sure, Malcom X's zombie body rose from the dead and kidnapped your family, I'd say you were justified to greatly dislike Malcom X's zombie. That has f-all to do with OP's experience ... nor the experience of the 3 young women (the topic of this thread!) who were so brutally attacked online because of their blackness/femaleness.

Ok, I'll ask it another way: is it even possible, in your opinion, for black people to harbor prejudicial beliefs? No strawman, no deflection, just a simple yes or no will suffice

WTF does that have to do with this topic, or PP's anecdote? Go start your own thread.

[Anonymous]

9:41 — Why don’t you go start your own “da blax robbed and beat me” thread? This one is about black girls attacked for being black and high achieving, with posters chiming in with similar, on-topic experiences. Bye.

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Anonymous wrote:9:41 — Why don’t you go start your own “da blax robbed and beat me” thread? This one is about black girls attacked for being black and high achieving, with posters chiming in with similar, on-topic experiences. Bye.

different views are NOT accepted here!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's infuriating. Underachieving black people are derided as lazy, stupid, inferior, you name it. But when you have successful, high-achieving black people, there is still backlash! I wonder why that is...anyone care to guess?

White person here. It’s racism. I know it and other whites know it too. Plain and simple. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.

[Anonymous]

Those online polls often go wrong.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/52524/15-polls-hijacked-internet