Three black teens are finalists in a NASA competition. Then this happened...

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Anonymous wrote:9:41 — Why don’t you go start your own “da blax robbed and beat me” thread? This one is about black girls attacked for being black and high achieving, with posters chiming in with similar, on-topic experiences. Bye.

different views are NOT accepted here!

Riiiight, that must be it. It’s not that you’re asking utterly irrelevant and obviously troll-baiting questions. It’s that you’re such a “different” free thinker being suppressed by us reactionaries.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:9:41 — Why don’t you go start your own “da blax robbed and beat me” thread? This one is about black girls attacked for being black and high achieving, with posters chiming in with similar, on-topic experiences. Bye.

different views are NOT accepted here!

So you do you have a different view about how 4chan users attacked these girls with explicity racist slurs?

Do you think every instance of racism against black people is a chance to argue that blacks are racist?

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

Ok.

What would you say about a white person who grew up in a county where they were bussed to underperforming black schools far from their home, in order to intergrate schools and help raise test scores, and spent much of their youth being bullied, assaulted and robbed by classmates, simply because they were one of the only white children in that school?

If a person who grew up in that environment viewed all black people as hateful, potentially violent and worthy of being feared, would you suggest that white person harbors racial prejudices?

What are your feelings on this scenario?

That it doesn't happen, and if it does, it happens WAY less than what's being talked about in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Glad to see that NASA acknowledged the problem and shut down the public voting. However, with something so large at stake, I really don't think that public voting should be a factor at all. American Idol contestants these young women are not. It should never have been popularity based at all.

What's next? The science fair being judged by the number of Instagram likes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

NP. I say this respectfully, GO POUND SAND! I have no idea if you are white, black, Latino , Purple or Blue and Gray stripes, but just stop. What entitlement, arrogance and condescension it takes for someone to tell people who have been attacked that they need to just ignore the attack and focus on the good. Does it make you feel better to say that? Does it make you feel better to tell someone to ignore systemic discrimination and marginalization and say it's only a small group of people and not indicative an ENTIRE system of ingrained and institutionalized bias/racism/discrimination that runs deep in this nation? Dealing with this is emotionally, physically and psychologically taxing, and THIS SHIT HURTS! Stop telling us how to feel our feelings and what we should do with them to make YOU more comfortable. JUST. FREAKING. STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

Ok.

What would you say about a white person who grew up in a county where they were bussed to underperforming black schools far from their home, in order to intergrate schools and help raise test scores, and spent much of their youth being bullied, assaulted and robbed by classmates, simply because they were one of the only white children in that school?

If a person who grew up in that environment viewed all black people as hateful, potentially violent and worthy of being feared, would you suggest that white person harbors racial prejudices?

What are your feelings on this scenario?

That it doesn't happen, and if it does, it happens WAY less than what's being talked about in this thread.

Oh and hypothetical poster, you are engaging with at least THREE people here, not one, not two. So more than pone person sees through your BS>

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

Ok.

What would you say about a white person who grew up in a county where they were bussed to underperforming black schools far from their home, in order to intergrate schools and help raise test scores, and spent much of their youth being bullied, assaulted and robbed by classmates, simply because they were one of the only white children in that school?

If a person who grew up in that environment viewed all black people as hateful, potentially violent and worthy of being feared, would you suggest that white person harbors racial prejudices?

What are your feelings on this scenario?

My view is that you're engaged in some major deflecting strawman whataboutism bullshit. So just stop. You can think about hyptheticals until the cows come home, but that does NOT change the fact that racism against black people is very much still a thing in this country. I mean sure, Malcom X's zombie body rose from the dead and kidnapped your family, I'd say you were justified to greatly dislike Malcom X's zombie. That has f-all to do with OP's experience ... nor the experience of the 3 young women (the topic of this thread!) who were so brutally attacked online because of their blackness/femaleness.

Ok, I'll ask it another way: is it even possible, in your opinion, for black people to harbor prejudicial beliefs? No strawman, no deflection, just a simple yes or no will suffice

DP. I'm sorry that something happened to you. It's affecting how you think and view the world. Your posts oozes pain.

But, as the pp said and I agree, this is not the place for you to seek the healing and support you need for what happened to you.

I do hope you find peace some day.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

NP. I say this respectfully, GO POUND SAND! I have no idea if you are white, black, Latino , Purple or Blue and Gray stripes, but just stop. What entitlement, arrogance and condescension it takes for someone to tell people who have been attacked that they need to just ignore the attack and focus on the good. Does it make you feel better to say that? Does it make you feel better to tell someone to ignore systemic discrimination and marginalization and say it's only a small group of people and not indicative an ENTIRE system of ingrained and institutionalized bias/racism/discrimination that runs deep in this nation? Dealing with this is emotionally, physically and psychologically taxing, and THIS SHIT HURTS! Stop telling us how to feel our feelings and what we should do with them to make YOU more comfortable. JUST. FREAKING. STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black PP here, I wouldn’t put it so emphatically, but I share your disdain of people who would minimize what we are talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

NP. I say this respectfully, GO POUND SAND! I have no idea if you are white, black, Latino , Purple or Blue and Gray stripes, but just stop. What entitlement, arrogance and condescension it takes for someone to tell people who have been attacked that they need to just ignore the attack and focus on the good. Does it make you feel better to say that? Does it make you feel better to tell someone to ignore systemic discrimination and marginalization and say it's only a small group of people and not indicative an ENTIRE system of ingrained and institutionalized bias/racism/discrimination that runs deep in this nation? Dealing with this is emotionally, physically and psychologically taxing, and THIS SHIT HURTS! Stop telling us how to feel our feelings and what we should do with them to make YOU more comfortable. JUST. FREAKING. STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black PP here, I wouldn’t put it so emphatically, but I share your disdain of people who would minimize what we are talking about.

I'm the person to whom you are responding, I am a AA female, and yea, I'm EMPHATIC ABOUT THAT S***. LOLOL!
Can't we just damn live!!?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

As I posted, before Jeff deleted my post for reasons only he understands, it is dishonest to pretend the problem of backlash against black people successfully competing in spaces that whites think are theirs (and, grudgingly, Asians’) is limited to 4chan. I grew up with white parents in the suburbs engaging in the most underhanded tricks (such as brokering deals with school officials to change the rules of awards) to undermine my brother and I. We achieved a lot of “first black” and “first person ever” designations and were #1 and #2 in our classes all of our grade school years. We moved around a lot, but the angry response of white parents when we edged out their kids (complete with racist speech and “jokes”) was consistent. White people are not used to black people competing with them head-to-head in academics and winning.

Do you think you harbor any racial prejudices? Just curios about how you see yourself.

DP here and I don't know your intentions, but man that question steams me when it comes up. The basic premise seems to be that people who have experienced racism must just eat it and realize that most white people are a-okay (which is not the whole truth) otherwise they themselves are racist.

Such bullsh!t.

Ok.

What would you say about a white person who grew up in a county where they were bussed to underperforming black schools far from their home, in order to intergrate schools and help raise test scores, and spent much of their youth being bullied, assaulted and robbed by classmates, simply because they were one of the only white children in that school?

If a person who grew up in that environment viewed all black people as hateful, potentially violent and worthy of being feared, would you suggest that white person harbors racial prejudices?

What are your feelings on this scenario?

Is that you Howard Stern?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of science competition relies on "public voting"??

Outcome-based "science". That kind.

That something new? So, it's a popularity based science and not science based?

Pretty much.

[Anonymous]

I am a Howard University graduate. Howard was always my dream school.

I arrived at Howard coming from rural NC, so boy was I shocked at the school's immediate environs. There are some pretty tough spots around the school. I'm just being real. But I learned to navigate it, and I still hold my experiences there as some of the best times of my life. Easily.

I mention this because Banneker School and the Incubator Lab are in close proximity to Howard. These gifted young ladies sacrificed their weekends and traversed some if-y spots to compete with other students - who may not have had to deal with similar challenges (I'm guessing, here.).

Environments matter. Admittedly, I don't know these young ladies full circumstances. But I've long believed that we could learn a great deal from high achievers who "grow from concrete".

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

NP. I say this respectfully, GO POUND SAND! I have no idea if you are white, black, Latino , Purple or Blue and Gray stripes, but just stop. What entitlement, arrogance and condescension it takes for someone to tell people who have been attacked that they need to just ignore the attack and focus on the good. Does it make you feel better to say that? Does it make you feel better to tell someone to ignore systemic discrimination and marginalization and say it's only a small group of people and not indicative an ENTIRE system of ingrained and institutionalized bias/racism/discrimination that runs deep in this nation? Dealing with this is emotionally, physically and psychologically taxing, and THIS SHIT HURTS! Stop telling us how to feel our feelings and what we should do with them to make YOU more comfortable. JUST. FREAKING. STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black PP here, I wouldn’t put it so emphatically, but I share your disdain of people who would minimize what we are talking about.

I'm the person to whom you are responding, I am a AA female, and yea, I'm EMPHATIC ABOUT THAT S***. LOLOL!
Can't we just damn live!!?

I am the PP that PPs are responding to, more or less emphatically. I am white. I was not marginalizing or condescending or telling anyone how to feel, particularly in relation to my feelings. Because it was received as such, I apologize.

When I posted, I was thinking of the studies that have shown that higher rates of experienced/perceived racism directly negatively impact the health of AA women in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Howard University graduate. Howard was always my dream school.

I arrived at Howard coming from rural NC, so boy was I shocked at the school's immediate environs. There are some pretty tough spots around the school. I'm just being real. But I learned to navigate it, and I still hold my experiences there as some of the best times of my life. Easily.

I mention this because Banneker School and the Incubator Lab are in close proximity to Howard. These gifted young ladies sacrificed their weekends and traversed some if-y spots to compete with other students - who may not have had to deal with similar challenges (I'm guessing, here.).

Environments matter. Admittedly, I don't know these young ladies full circumstances. But I've long believed that we could learn a great deal from high achievers who "grow from concrete".

What in the world are you talking about? For the life of me, I can’t discern a point in this post.

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Anonymous wrote:Speaking as a black National Merit Scholar, Phi Beta Kappa, Intel finalist and a few other things black people are apparently not supposed to be, this is how white people react when black people do extremely well. My experience has always been that whites are initially convinced the situation was somehow rigged (how can a black be so smart?) and then the pure hatred and envy comes pouring out, whether expressed overtly or passive aggressively or anonymously.

You could focus on the actions of 4chan (a marginalized and semi-legal group of people) or on the actions of NASA, the widely respected and official judging body, who took action to correct the situation, as well as WaPo and whoever is was who brought 4chan's plans to NASA's notice.

NP. I say this respectfully, GO POUND SAND! I have no idea if you are white, black, Latino , Purple or Blue and Gray stripes, but just stop. What entitlement, arrogance and condescension it takes for someone to tell people who have been attacked that they need to just ignore the attack and focus on the good. Does it make you feel better to say that? Does it make you feel better to tell someone to ignore systemic discrimination and marginalization and say it's only a small group of people and not indicative an ENTIRE system of ingrained and institutionalized bias/racism/discrimination that runs deep in this nation? Dealing with this is emotionally, physically and psychologically taxing, and THIS SHIT HURTS! Stop telling us how to feel our feelings and what we should do with them to make YOU more comfortable. JUST. FREAKING. STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black PP here, I wouldn’t put it so emphatically, but I share your disdain of people who would minimize what we are talking about.

I'm the person to whom you are responding, I am a AA female, and yea, I'm EMPHATIC ABOUT THAT S***. LOLOL!
Can't we just damn live!!?

I am the PP that PPs are responding to, more or less emphatically. I am white. I was not marginalizing or condescending or telling anyone how to feel, particularly in relation to my feelings. Because it was received as such, I apologize.

When I posted, I was thinking of the studies that have shown that higher rates of experienced/perceived racism directly negatively impact the health of AA women in this country.

Pound Sand Poster here,so you work on uncovering and eradicting the racism, not telling the "victim" what his/her perception should be.