My daughter bombed her ACT - move on to SAT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most public universities do not superscore. .

Completely untrue:

https://blog.prepscholar.com/which-colleges-superscore-the-sat

Well my child is looking into engineering at bigger public universities and most of them don’t. Wisconsin, Purdue, WVU, UT - Texas, Purdue, Wyoming, Arizona State, Alabama, The Ohio State, etc....

My kid is looking at Purdue as well. They will look at the highest subscores across all test dates. Essentially, they superscore but don’t call it that.

[Anonymous]

We did 4-5 focused tutoring sessions and it really helped. PP mentioned and it's true that the Science on the ACT is shocking to some more STEM focused kids as it's really more about reading and interpreting scientific data. Also, practice tests should be under timed testing conditions as that is the biggest challenge on the ACT. It seems with some focused practice/tutoring in Reading and Science your daughter could easily increase that score.

[Anonymous]

We found that Khan Academy and http://class.appliedtutor.com offering free SAT MATH Prep classes.

[Anonymous]

There is only two areas that need work. Other scores are quite good. Focus on what needs work and put some intensive work with her.

[Anonymous]

I am the poster who said we spent $150 per hour for six test prep sessions. I understand that is a lot of money.

We plan to spend over $100,000 to get our daughter through college - that's actually on the low end - so $900 to help her get the test scores she needs to get into the school she wants to go to is pocket change. Yes, she had to put in the work on her own too with practice tests. Yes, I know we are privileged to have $900 to spend on this but we also started saving for college when I was pregnant.

She is a self-motivated, well balanced, sociable student who will do well in college on her own I'm sure; not the over-protected, over-worked brat that some people seem to think is implied by parents who will pay for a tutor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most public universities do not superscore. .

Completely untrue:

https://blog.prepscholar.com/which-colleges-superscore-the-sat

Well my child is looking into engineering at bigger public universities and most of them don’t. Wisconsin, Purdue, WVU, UT - Texas, Purdue, Wyoming, Arizona State, Alabama, The Ohio State, etc....

My kid is looking at Purdue as well. They will look at the highest subscores across all test dates. Essentially, they superscore but don’t call it that.

It was asked at a Purdue local visit session (1.5hrs long) last weekend that there is no longer rolling admissions, EA is Nov 1st, and to only submit your highest SAT or ACT as they do not super score. Right from the director of admissions mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most public universities do not superscore. .

Completely untrue:

https://blog.prepscholar.com/which-colleges-superscore-the-sat

Well my child is looking into engineering at bigger public universities and most of them don’t. Wisconsin, Purdue, WVU, UT - Texas, Purdue, Wyoming, Arizona State, Alabama, The Ohio State, etc....

My kid is looking at Purdue as well. They will look at the highest subscores across all test dates. Essentially, they superscore but don’t call it that.

It was asked at a Purdue local visit session (1.5hrs long) last weekend that there is no longer rolling admissions, EA is Nov 1st, and to only submit your highest SAT or ACT as they do not super score. Right from the director of admissions mouth.

That’s interesting. I emailed an admissions counselor from Purdue and was told that they look at the highest subsections across multiple sittings of the same test. They do not however recalculate a new composite score.

[Anonymous]

The Internet offers many self-managed ACT/SAT prep courses. Frankly, if she cannot direct her efforts to locate and learn the tutorials on her own, she will likely struggle in a rigorous university curriculum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier recommending a tutor. The thing is, a tutor is necessary to figure out the strategies and to go over the wrong answers her so she can see what she did wrong. The tutor will provide your daughter with strategies on how to approach certain questions, and what to look for. My DS had a 33 in his mock tests as a rising junior. After a few months of tutoring, he took the test in February and scored a 35. The tutor will help your DD improve her score significantly, especially the lower scores. It is a worthwhile investment.

This is a great example illustrating why the ACT and SAT are of limited value for colleges and why the Harvard lawsuit will fail.

Exactly. High scores have reduced value because they can be bought and/or made into an extracurricular activity.

+1

That is why schools with holistic admissions can see who probably aid for their higher test scores.

Those of you referring to "paying for" scores-- do you mean, paying for prep courses?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier recommending a tutor. The thing is, a tutor is necessary to figure out the strategies and to go over the wrong answers her so she can see what she did wrong. The tutor will provide your daughter with strategies on how to approach certain questions, and what to look for. My DS had a 33 in his mock tests as a rising junior. After a few months of tutoring, he took the test in February and scored a 35. The tutor will help your DD improve her score significantly, especially the lower scores. It is a worthwhile investment.

This is a great example illustrating why the ACT and SAT are of limited value for colleges and why the Harvard lawsuit will fail.

Exactly. High scores have reduced value because they can be bought and/or made into an extracurricular activity.

+1

That is why schools with holistic admissions can see who probably aid for their higher test scores.

Those of you referring to "paying for" scores-- do you mean, paying for prep courses?

I'll say "yes", and I'll plead guilty to doing it for my own kids. What I won't do is claim that they are somehow being victimized because DD's 1570 doesn't impress Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier recommending a tutor. The thing is, a tutor is necessary to figure out the strategies and to go over the wrong answers her so she can see what she did wrong. The tutor will provide your daughter with strategies on how to approach certain questions, and what to look for. My DS had a 33 in his mock tests as a rising junior. After a few months of tutoring, he took the test in February and scored a 35. The tutor will help your DD improve her score significantly, especially the lower scores. It is a worthwhile investment.

This is a great example illustrating why the ACT and SAT are of limited value for colleges and why the Harvard lawsuit will fail.

Exactly. High scores have reduced value because they can be bought and/or made into an extracurricular activity.

+1

That is why schools with holistic admissions can see who probably aid for their higher test scores.

Those of you referring to "paying for" scores-- do you mean, paying for prep courses?

Another yes here...we did well over 6 sessions at $150 per session. DS also took 4 mock tests (ranging from 33 to 35) before he even took the real actual test. He ended up with a 36. As my husband put it, he was "peaking" when he took the actual test. Worth every penny.

I'll say "yes", and I'll plead guilty to doing it for my own kids. What I won't do is claim that they are somehow being victimized because DD's 1570 doesn't impress Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier recommending a tutor. The thing is, a tutor is necessary to figure out the strategies and to go over the wrong answers her so she can see what she did wrong. The tutor will provide your daughter with strategies on how to approach certain questions, and what to look for. My DS had a 33 in his mock tests as a rising junior. After a few months of tutoring, he took the test in February and scored a 35. The tutor will help your DD improve her score significantly, especially the lower scores. It is a worthwhile investment.

This is a great example illustrating why the ACT and SAT are of limited value for colleges and why the Harvard lawsuit will fail.

Exactly. High scores have reduced value because they can be bought and/or made into an extracurricular activity.

+1

That is why schools with holistic admissions can see who probably aid for their higher test scores.

Those of you referring to "paying for" scores-- do you mean, paying for prep courses?

I'll say "yes", and I'll plead guilty to doing it for my own kids. What I won't do is claim that they are somehow being victimized because DD's 1570 doesn't impress Harvard.

Another yes here...we did well over 6 sessions at $150 per session. DS also took 4 mock tests (ranging from 33 to 35) before he even took the real actual test. He ended up with a 36. As my husband put it, he was "peaking" when he took the actual test. Worth every penny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier recommending a tutor. The thing is, a tutor is necessary to figure out the strategies and to go over the wrong answers her so she can see what she did wrong. The tutor will provide your daughter with strategies on how to approach certain questions, and what to look for. My DS had a 33 in his mock tests as a rising junior. After a few months of tutoring, he took the test in February and scored a 35. The tutor will help your DD improve her score significantly, especially the lower scores. It is a worthwhile investment.

This is a great example illustrating why the ACT and SAT are of limited value for colleges and why the Harvard lawsuit will fail.

Exactly. High scores have reduced value because they can be bought and/or made into an extracurricular activity.

+1

That is why schools with holistic admissions can see who probably aid for their higher test scores.

Those of you referring to "paying for" scores-- do you mean, paying for prep courses?

I'll say "yes", and I'll plead guilty to doing it for my own kids. What I won't do is claim that they are somehow being victimized because DD's 1570 doesn't impress Harvard.

Another yes here...we did well over 6 sessions at $150 per session. DS also took 4 mock tests (ranging from 33 to 35) before he even took the real actual test. He ended up with a 36. As my husband put it, he was "peaking" when he took the actual test. Worth every penny.

Actually I should correct that. We did 90 minute sessions at $150 per hour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Internet offers many self-managed ACT/SAT prep courses. Frankly, if she cannot direct her efforts to locate and learn the tutorials on her own, she will likely struggle in a rigorous university curriculum.

Do your kids know what a bitch you are? Way to be positive and add something productive.

The OP said she was getting higher on the pre tests she took. And a 30 is not a bomb. It was her first try. It is people like you that make this kid feel like she bombed. The kids who can afford private tutors always come out on top, right?

White rich people are such pretentious assholes. Just because you have tons of money and time to throw away until your kids get perfect scores, does not mean the rest of the population does. Check yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Internet offers many self-managed ACT/SAT prep courses. Frankly, if she cannot direct her efforts to locate and learn the tutorials on her own, she will likely struggle in a rigorous university curriculum.

Do your kids know what a bitch you are? Way to be positive and add something productive.

The OP said she was getting higher on the pre tests she took. And a 30 is not a bomb. It was her first try. It is people like you that make this kid feel like she bombed. The kids who can afford private tutors always come out on top, right?

White rich people are such pretentious assholes. Just because you have tons of money and time to throw away until your kids get perfect scores, does not mean the rest of the population does. Check yourself.