Yu Ying

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Very good to hear a PP admitting that a lot of outside support (with a price to be paid in time, energy and money) is necessary to make YY worth it in the upper grades for a family that doesn't speak Chinese at home.

One grows tired of the "no need to supplement" palaver and potshots at native speakers who challenge parents looking at immersion through rose-colored glasses on DCUM.

Lol she did not word it any where near the way you did. Y’all are something else

No, y'all are something else, with your kids' phenomenally bad spoken Mandarin (which you think rocks) all the way to 8th grade at DCI.

Cool! Because that's still better Mandarin than any other school in the entire DC area teaches! BY FAR. Woot!!

[Anonymous]

We started at Yu Ying and then transferred to MCPS Chinese immersion at College Gardens. DS struggled a lot a first but his teachers and the native children at College Gardens helped.

[Anonymous]

College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good to hear a PP admitting that a lot of outside support (with a price to be paid in time, energy and money) is necessary to make YY worth it in the upper grades for a family that doesn't speak Chinese at home.

One grows tired of the "no need to supplement" palaver and potshots at native speakers who challenge parents looking at immersion through rose-colored glasses on DCUM.

Lol she did not word it any where near the way you did. Y’all are something else

No, y'all are something else, with your kids' phenomenally bad spoken Mandarin (which you think rocks) all the way to 8th grade at DCI.

Cool! Because that's still better Mandarin than any other school in the entire DC area teaches! BY FAR. Woot!!

What is your basis for arguing this? It's total BS. The two MoCo ES immersion programs enroll many native speakers of various dialects. Those kids help keep standards for speaking and understanding high for the rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good to hear a PP admitting that a lot of outside support (with a price to be paid in time, energy and money) is necessary to make YY worth it in the upper grades for a family that doesn't speak Chinese at home.

One grows tired of the "no need to supplement" palaver and potshots at native speakers who challenge parents looking at immersion through rose-colored glasses on DCUM.

Lol she did not word it any where near the way you did. Y’all are something else

No, y'all are something else, with your kids' phenomenally bad spoken Mandarin (which you think rocks) all the way to 8th grade at DCI.

Cool! Because that's still better Mandarin than any other school in the entire DC area teaches! BY FAR. Woot!!

What is your basis for arguing this? It's total BS. The two MoCo ES immersion programs enroll many native speakers of various dialects. Those kids help keep standards for speaking and understanding high for the rest.

First of all, they're in the suburbs, so that's a huge strike against them. Second of all, what grade do they go to? Because anything less than HS isn't interesting.

[Anonymous]

Okay well this derailed a bit. I guess what it boils down to for some of us is this - no, we did not specifically seek out Mandarin immersion, but we did seek out immersion because we value the benefits it brings. And the lotto landed us here and we are excited. Do we expect native fluency? No, we don't necessarily. Moving on.

Other questions re YY that maybe someone currently at YY can chime in:

1. Do you feel your children receive a quality baseline elementary education, on par with a good public school, that prepares them for middle school onward?

2. Do you feel your child's English/Language arts abilities (enjoyment & interest in reading, writing ability) has suffered due to the immersion factor?

3. Does the school do a good job with specials, like art & music?

4. Are you happy with the amount of PE/recess your child receives? And, what is that amount?

5. Is it a kind/warm environment?

6. Do you feel the teachers are qualified, particularly for ECE?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

I have learned that a poster who
1) puts down YY's immersion program,
2) mentions MoCo, and especially
3) mentions that he is a native speaker who supplements his children's learning at a heritage center...
is none other than THE notorious YY troll that is incredibly insecure about anyone who encourages their children to learn Chinese without taking the super rigorous (and miserable-sounding) approach he takes.

I also noticed that he often claims to be a NP, even though he's a PP, to suggest there are more of him. But there's not.

When it comes to Chinese language learning, this DCUM poster is equivalent of posters that look down on anyone that doesn't live in a million-dollar house in NoVA.

His kids probably speak great Chinese, though.

[Anonymous]

As someone who just matched at YY, I would also love the answer to these questions!! And can we assume some kind of open house in the next couple of weeks? I would love to observe a class.

For other newly matched families, you may want to read through the QSR for YY—provides some additional insight:
http://www.dcpcsb.org/sites/default/files/report/Washington%20Yu%20Ying%20QSR%20finalsigned%20%281%29_Redacted.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Do you have to live in ROCKVILLE?! Ew. Seriously. So gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Take a look at College Gardens, Herbert Hoover, and Yu Ying on a map. And then think about how off topic this post is in relation to OP's questions about Yu Ying. Seek justification for your life choices somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Very good to hear a PP admitting that a lot of outside support (with a price to be paid in time, energy and money) is necessary to make YY worth it in the upper grades for a family that doesn't speak Chinese at home.

One grows tired of the "no need to supplement" palaver and potshots at native speakers who challenge parents looking at immersion through rose-colored glasses on DCUM.

Lol she did not word it any where near the way you did. Y’all are something else

No, y'all are something else, with your kids' phenomenally bad spoken Mandarin (which you think rocks) all the way to 8th grade at DCI.

Cool! Because that's still better Mandarin than any other school in the entire DC area teaches! BY FAR. Woot!!

What is your basis for arguing this? It's total BS. The two MoCo ES immersion programs enroll many native speakers of various dialects. Those kids help keep standards for speaking and understanding high for the rest.

First of all, they're in the suburbs, so that's a huge strike against them. Second of all, what grade do they go to? Because anything less than HS isn't interesting.

You haven't read a few posts back. It was explained that the 2 MoCo Mandarin immersion programs (which run through 5th grade), feed into a partial immersion program at Herbert Hoover MS. After Herbert Hoover, the kids go on to Rockville HS by right, where Standard Level IB Diploma and AP Chinese are taught. They can also apply to Richard Montgomery HS where Higher Level IBD Chinese is taught (two years past AP). The MoCo ES programs are small school-within-a-school programs where native speakers can backfill openings created by attrition.

There isn't just one PP here who knows about the MoCo programs (we left YY for the Potomac ES program). I don't know the person who left YY for College Gardens ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Take a look at College Gardens, Herbert Hoover, and Yu Ying on a map. And then think about how off topic this post is in relation to OP's questions about Yu Ying. Seek justification for your life choices somewhere else.

Wish you were right. Problem is, the College Gardens, Potomac and Herbert Hoover programs have figured out how to ensure that almost all their students can speak decent Chinese by the upper grades; YY and DCI have not.

As a YY parent, it's worth going to an open house for Mandarin immersion in MoCo. You can learn about how to supplement in ways you may not have thought of, like enrolling in Concordia summer camps, taking opportunities to interact with native-speaking peers, volunteer programs run by local NGOs where Mandarin-speaking kids visit elderly Chinese speakers in public housing etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Take a look at College Gardens, Herbert Hoover, and Yu Ying on a map. And then think about how off topic this post is in relation to OP's questions about Yu Ying. Seek justification for your life choices somewhere else.

Wish you were right. Problem is, the College Gardens, Potomac and Herbert Hoover programs have figured out how to ensure that almost all their students can speak decent Chinese by the upper grades; YY and DCI have not.

As a YY parent, it's worth going to an open house for Mandarin immersion in MoCo. You can learn about how to supplement in ways you may not have thought of, like enrolling in Concordia summer camps, taking opportunities to interact with native-speaking peers, volunteer programs run by local NGOs where Mandarin-speaking kids visit elderly Chinese speakers in public housing etc.

No. We are not interested in your puffery about MoCo schools that are 40min in the wrong direction for our commutes. Nor are we interested in summer camps in Minnesota (!) for our PK4 that just enrolled in YY.

If you can't see that your input is not helpful, unwanted, and actually really hurts your credibility, then you have a personality disorder. This thread, and several others about YY over the past couple years (I've looked), is mired down (and being abandoned by people who could give useful insight) because of your hijacking and obsessive advocacy. Your opinion has been heard, and your suggestions have been rejected, on this thread and multiple others. I don't expect you to go away, but at least just go someplace where you're more relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Take a look at College Gardens, Herbert Hoover, and Yu Ying on a map. And then think about how off topic this post is in relation to OP's questions about Yu Ying. Seek justification for your life choices somewhere else.

Wish you were right. Problem is, the College Gardens, Potomac and Herbert Hoover programs have figured out how to ensure that almost all their students can speak decent Chinese by the upper grades; YY and DCI have not.

As a YY parent, it's worth going to an open house for Mandarin immersion in MoCo. You can learn about how to supplement in ways you may not have thought of, like enrolling in Concordia summer camps, taking opportunities to interact with native-speaking peers, volunteer programs run by local NGOs where Mandarin-speaking kids visit elderly Chinese speakers in public housing etc.

No. We are not interested in your puffery about MoCo schools that are 40min in the wrong direction for our commutes. Nor are we interested in summer camps in Minnesota (!) for our PK4 that just enrolled in YY.

If you can't see that your input is not helpful, unwanted, and actually really hurts your credibility, then you have a personality disorder. This thread, and several others about YY over the past couple years (I've looked), is mired down (and being abandoned by people who could give useful insight) because of your hijacking and obsessive advocacy. Your opinion has been heard, and your suggestions have been rejected, on this thread and multiple others. I don't expect you to go away, but at least just go someplace where you're more relevant.

Speak for yourself. We're very high on the YY WL and I'm very interested. We've been offered a spot in a SPanish immersion DCPS. It's starting to look like the program for us, even if we get off the YY WL.