Yu Ying

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Take a look at College Gardens, Herbert Hoover, and Yu Ying on a map. And then think about how off topic this post is in relation to OP's questions about Yu Ying. Seek justification for your life choices somewhere else.

Wish you were right. Problem is, the College Gardens, Potomac and Herbert Hoover programs have figured out how to ensure that almost all their students can speak decent Chinese by the upper grades; YY and DCI have not.

As a YY parent, it's worth going to an open house for Mandarin immersion in MoCo. You can learn about how to supplement in ways you may not have thought of, like enrolling in Concordia summer camps, taking opportunities to interact with native-speaking peers, volunteer programs run by local NGOs where Mandarin-speaking kids visit elderly Chinese speakers in public housing etc.

No. We are not interested in your puffery about MoCo schools that are 40min in the wrong direction for our commutes. Nor are we interested in summer camps in Minnesota (!) for our PK4 that just enrolled in YY.

If you can't see that your input is not helpful, unwanted, and actually really hurts your credibility, then you have a personality disorder. This thread, and several others about YY over the past couple years (I've looked), is mired down (and being abandoned by people who could give useful insight) because of your hijacking and obsessive advocacy. Your opinion has been heard, and your suggestions have been rejected, on this thread and multiple others. I don't expect you to go away, but at least just go someplace where you're more relevant.

Speak for yourself. We're very high on the YY WL and I'm very interested. We've been offered a spot in a SPanish immersion DCPS. It's starting to look like the program for us, even if we get off the YY WL.

Well I guess you're in luck, because the same guy has been posting the same talking points on YY threads for a long time, regardless of topic or appeals to go away. In the end, it's about boosting his schools and neighborhood, like a realtor, and downplaying competition from YY. It goes like this: YY isn't serious, your children speak better Chinese with native family and friends, supplemented at a local heritage center, further supplemented by expensive immersion programs in other time zones like Concordia, oh and you should really consider moving 20+ miles away to the MoCo schools his kids are in because the teachers are waaaay better. He does this in just about every single YY thread.

Oh look here he is, with people complaining about his repeat posts: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/702630.page
Gee, here he is again, same characteristics: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/375/672329.page#12181151
And again: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/694124.page

Etc. etc.

Hope his input aids your decision!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Take a look at College Gardens, Herbert Hoover, and Yu Ying on a map. And then think about how off topic this post is in relation to OP's questions about Yu Ying. Seek justification for your life choices somewhere else.

Wish you were right. Problem is, the College Gardens, Potomac and Herbert Hoover programs have figured out how to ensure that almost all their students can speak decent Chinese by the upper grades; YY and DCI have not.

As a YY parent, it's worth going to an open house for Mandarin immersion in MoCo. You can learn about how to supplement in ways you may not have thought of, like enrolling in Concordia summer camps, taking opportunities to interact with native-speaking peers, volunteer programs run by local NGOs where Mandarin-speaking kids visit elderly Chinese speakers in public housing etc.

No. We are not interested in your puffery about MoCo schools that are 40min in the wrong direction for our commutes. Nor are we interested in summer camps in Minnesota (!) for our PK4 that just enrolled in YY.

If you can't see that your input is not helpful, unwanted, and actually really hurts your credibility, then you have a personality disorder. This thread, and several others about YY over the past couple years (I've looked), is mired down (and being abandoned by people who could give useful insight) because of your hijacking and obsessive advocacy. Your opinion has been heard, and your suggestions have been rejected, on this thread and multiple others. I don't expect you to go away, but at least just go someplace where you're more relevant.

I’ve only recently come across his posts but I’m starting to suspect this too. No one perserverates on one school for years like this guy does unless something is amiss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Take a look at College Gardens, Herbert Hoover, and Yu Ying on a map. And then think about how off topic this post is in relation to OP's questions about Yu Ying. Seek justification for your life choices somewhere else.

Wish you were right. Problem is, the College Gardens, Potomac and Herbert Hoover programs have figured out how to ensure that almost all their students can speak decent Chinese by the upper grades; YY and DCI have not.

As a YY parent, it's worth going to an open house for Mandarin immersion in MoCo. You can learn about how to supplement in ways you may not have thought of, like enrolling in Concordia summer camps, taking opportunities to interact with native-speaking peers, volunteer programs run by local NGOs where Mandarin-speaking kids visit elderly Chinese speakers in public housing etc.

No. We are not interested in your puffery about MoCo schools that are 40min in the wrong direction for our commutes. Nor are we interested in summer camps in Minnesota (!) for our PK4 that just enrolled in YY.

If you can't see that your input is not helpful, unwanted, and actually really hurts your credibility, then you have a personality disorder. This thread, and several others about YY over the past couple years (I've looked), is mired down (and being abandoned by people who could give useful insight) because of your hijacking and obsessive advocacy. Your opinion has been heard, and your suggestions have been rejected, on this thread and multiple others. I don't expect you to go away, but at least just go someplace where you're more relevant.

I’ve only recently come across his posts but I’m starting to suspect this too. No one perserverates on one school for years like this guy does unless something is amiss.

That "something amiss" is called "personality disorder."

I could probably get better Chinese lessons for my child in Shanghai. Of course, I'd have to move to Shanghai. Similarly, I could possibly get more Chinese for my child in Wheaton or Rockville or some other ugly suburb which is not why we moved to DC! So I guess we'll make do with the best Chinese in the city. Because suburbs? Hah! Not a chance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Take a look at College Gardens, Herbert Hoover, and Yu Ying on a map. And then think about how off topic this post is in relation to OP's questions about Yu Ying. Seek justification for your life choices somewhere else.

Wish you were right. Problem is, the College Gardens, Potomac and Herbert Hoover programs have figured out how to ensure that almost all their students can speak decent Chinese by the upper grades; YY and DCI have not.

As a YY parent, it's worth going to an open house for Mandarin immersion in MoCo. You can learn about how to supplement in ways you may not have thought of, like enrolling in Concordia summer camps, taking opportunities to interact with native-speaking peers, volunteer programs run by local NGOs where Mandarin-speaking kids visit elderly Chinese speakers in public housing etc.

No. We are not interested in your puffery about MoCo schools that are 40min in the wrong direction for our commutes. Nor are we interested in summer camps in Minnesota (!) for our PK4 that just enrolled in YY.

If you can't see that your input is not helpful, unwanted, and actually really hurts your credibility, then you have a personality disorder. This thread, and several others about YY over the past couple years (I've looked), is mired down (and being abandoned by people who could give useful insight) because of your hijacking and obsessive advocacy. Your opinion has been heard, and your suggestions have been rejected, on this thread and multiple others. I don't expect you to go away, but at least just go someplace where you're more relevant.

I’ve only recently come across his posts but I’m starting to suspect this too. No one perserverates on one school for years like this guy does unless something is amiss.

That "something amiss" is called "personality disorder."

I could probably get better Chinese lessons for my child in Shanghai. Of course, I'd have to move to Shanghai. Similarly, I could possibly get more Chinese for my child in Wheaton or Rockville or some other ugly suburb which is not why we moved to DC! So I guess we'll make do with the best Chinese in the city. Because suburbs? Hah! Not a chance.

Although bashing suburbs wasn't the point of this thread either. Plenty of that over in the real estate forum.

[Anonymous]

Bashing suburbs helps no one make their case. But you know that already.

[Anonymous]

People with means who live in DC have little interest in the suburbs. The ones we care about are McLean and Bethesda, Old Town and Potomac.

Sorry if this is harsh, but really we don't drive to your neighborhoods, you drive to ours.

Why are you even on this forum? We don't haunt yours.

[Anonymous]

We're at YY and have been for a few years. We're and on the fence about moving on after this year. Hard decision.

I can't stand the view that those who have issues with the way the school runs have "personality disorders." Yea, right, they are guilty of "puffery" in suggesting that YY should build stronger ties with the local ethnic Chinese community. Duh, this should happen.

Truth is, there are some really uptight and insecure parents at YY who don't want to deal with competition from families who take the Chinese learning seriously (more of these types coming up the chain allt he time).

Shut up already ridiculous boosters, you're the paranoid losers on these threads. You just make YY look bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People with means who live in DC have little interest in the suburbs. The ones we care about are McLean and Bethesda, Old Town and Potomac.

Sorry if this is harsh, but really we don't drive to your neighborhoods, you drive to ours.

Why are you even on this forum? We don't haunt yours.

Many people, even in means, have friends and family throughout the region and actually go outside if wealthy enclaves in their routine life. Some even enjoy it!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We got in to Yu Ying and I am nervous - never actually thought we would get in. I am bad at languages. If my kid struggles what happens? What if your kid is at an immersion school and ends up sucking at learning a foreign language? You either continue through with bad grades or go back to general lottery? I could really use some advice.

No worries, lady. No kid struggles with Mandarin at YY, at least on paper. All the kids earn good grades for speaking (even if they can hardly speak after many years in the school). The standards for Mandarin aren't high (and the results are seldom good for the families who don't supplement extensively) and the great majority of the parents like it that way. My 4 and 5 year olds speak better Chinese than many YY kids in 4th and 5th grades. I tell you this as a native speaker who volunteers at the school from time to time and has done for a decade.

I call troll. My kids have attended YY since PK4 and their Mandarin is on par with native speakers for their age and grade level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We got in to Yu Ying and I am nervous - never actually thought we would get in. I am bad at languages. If my kid struggles what happens? What if your kid is at an immersion school and ends up sucking at learning a foreign language? You either continue through with bad grades or go back to general lottery? I could really use some advice.

YY offers a lot of support for none native speakers and parents who struggle with languages. You would be hard pressed to find a better PK3 - 5th in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We're at YY and have been for a few years. We're and on the fence about moving on after this year. Hard decision.

I can't stand the view that those who have issues with the way the school runs have "personality disorders." Yea, right, they are guilty of "puffery" in suggesting that YY should build stronger ties with the local ethnic Chinese community. Duh, this should happen.

Truth is, there are some really uptight and insecure parents at YY who don't want to deal with competition from families who take the Chinese learning seriously (more of these types coming up the chain allt he time).

Shut up already ridiculous boosters, you're the paranoid losers on these threads. You just make YY look bad.

This may be the craziest post yet. Parents afraid of “competition” from families who take Chinese seriously? That’s just paranoid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hardly any JKLM zoned parents choose YY, a few dozen at most.

Some of us think that our kids have more than enough "cognitive benefits."

If an "immersion" public ES isn't serious about teaching a language for 8 years for whatever reasons, I'd pass. You don't want kids who are weak in two language come middle school by high SES DC standards. No shortage of YY kids in that category.

The idea is that they do YY for PK3 and PK4 and go IB JKLM starting in K right? They wouldn't actually go all the way through to 5th grade, would they?

I think there are around 5 in fourth grade. It’s because they want Mandarin, PYP, or both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College Gardens ends in 5th, right?

NP, College Gardens feeds to Herbert Hoover MS in Potomac for partial immersion Chinese. Many of the HH Chinese track students go on to the Richard Montgomery IB Diploma program in Rockville, which admits no more than 10% (100 of more than 1000) applicants for 9th grade. Chinese immersion track students are in demand in the RM IBD program. YY families who move to MoCo can try to test into College Gardens and Herbert Hoover. But kids really have to be able to speak Mandarin decently for their ages to make the grade.

Take a look at College Gardens, Herbert Hoover, and Yu Ying on a map. And then think about how off topic this post is in relation to OP's questions about Yu Ying. Seek justification for your life choices somewhere else.

Wish you were right. Problem is, the College Gardens, Potomac and Herbert Hoover programs have figured out how to ensure that almost all their students can speak decent Chinese by the upper grades; YY and DCI have not.

As a YY parent, it's worth going to an open house for Mandarin immersion in MoCo. You can learn about how to supplement in ways you may not have thought of, like enrolling in Concordia summer camps, taking opportunities to interact with native-speaking peers, volunteer programs run by local NGOs where Mandarin-speaking kids visit elderly Chinese speakers in public housing etc.

No. We are not interested in your puffery about MoCo schools that are 40min in the wrong direction for our commutes. Nor are we interested in summer camps in Minnesota (!) for our PK4 that just enrolled in YY.

If you can't see that your input is not helpful, unwanted, and actually really hurts your credibility, then you have a personality disorder. This thread, and several others about YY over the past couple years (I've looked), is mired down (and being abandoned by people who could give useful insight) because of your hijacking and obsessive advocacy. Your opinion has been heard, and your suggestions have been rejected, on this thread and multiple others. I don't expect you to go away, but at least just go someplace where you're more relevant.

Speak for yourself. We're very high on the YY WL and I'm very interested. We've been offered a spot in a SPanish immersion DCPS. It's starting to look like the program for us, even if we get off the YY WL.

Well I guess you're in luck, because the same guy has been posting the same talking points on YY threads for a long time, regardless of topic or appeals to go away. In the end, it's about boosting his schools and neighborhood, like a realtor, and downplaying competition from YY. It goes like this: YY isn't serious, your children speak better Chinese with native family and friends, supplemented at a local heritage center, further supplemented by expensive immersion programs in other time zones like Concordia, oh and you should really consider moving 20+ miles away to the MoCo schools his kids are in because the teachers are waaaay better. He does this in just about every single YY thread.

Oh look here he is, with people complaining about his repeat posts: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/30/702630.page
Gee, here he is again, same characteristics: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/375/672329.page#12181151
And again: http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/694124.page

Etc. etc.

Hope his input aids your decision!

Savage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got in to Yu Ying and I am nervous - never actually thought we would get in. I am bad at languages. If my kid struggles what happens? What if your kid is at an immersion school and ends up sucking at learning a foreign language? You either continue through with bad grades or go back to general lottery? I could really use some advice.

No worries, lady. No kid struggles with Mandarin at YY, at least on paper. All the kids earn good grades for speaking (even if they can hardly speak after many years in the school). The standards for Mandarin aren't high (and the results are seldom good for the families who don't supplement extensively) and the great majority of the parents like it that way. My 4 and 5 year olds speak better Chinese than many YY kids in 4th and 5th grades. I tell you this as a native speaker who volunteers at the school from time to time and has done for a decade.

I call troll. My kids have attended YY since PK4 and their Mandarin is on par with native speakers for their age and grade level.

NP a How are you able to determine this? Or are you just going by what your kids or the teachers say?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We got in to Yu Ying and I am nervous - never actually thought we would get in. I am bad at languages. If my kid struggles what happens? What if your kid is at an immersion school and ends up sucking at learning a foreign language? You either continue through with bad grades or go back to general lottery? I could really use some advice.

YY offers a lot of support for none native speakers and parents who struggle with languages. You would be hard pressed to find a better PK3 - 5th in DC.

This is not accurate! We have been at the school for years and only first year/ new students receive extra language support. We have asked repeatedly for evidence and scores that our DD is really on level. We are told qualitatively that she is.

FWIW we have our DD attending for the soft qualities the school provides. It’s small, warm, safe and the teachers for the most part are kind. This is hard to come by at a a dcps or charter school locally. Did I mention class sizes are typically 17 or so?