Brown v UChicago?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know cross-admit data? I'd bet over 90% choose UofC for no other reason than it's #3 and Brown is #14 on US News.

No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 and the split is far from a 90% - 10%. Brown might not be a top 10 school and might be possibly the weakest or second-weakest ivy, but there are plenty of reasons a cross-admit would choose Brown over Chicago, including the ivy league brand. Parchment actually says 49% Chicago - 51% Brown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know cross-admit data? I'd bet over 90% choose UofC for no other reason than it's #3 and Brown is #14 on US News.

No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 and the split is far from a 90% - 10%. Brown might not be a top 10 school and might be possibly the weakest or second-weakest ivy, but there are plenty of reasons a cross-admit would choose Brown over Chicago, including the ivy league brand. Parchment actually says 49% Chicago - 51% Brown.

Clearly you don't have analysis skills, so I will point a few things out

1) Parchment doesn't break cross admit data by ED vs RD. So any school with an ED plan should have a massive advantage against a school that only had EA till a year ago, if applicants apply to both schools. It is amazing that Brown doesn't have a ratio of 70% to 30%. That tells you what you really need to know. Even with ED, Brown is not competing very well with Chicago on cross admits.
2) Parchment data is not broken by year, so it includes old data when Chicago did not have ED. It will take a few years for that data to get included.
3) The sample size of parchment is quite small. so it is hard to make any definitive predictions based on that limited data set.


As far as "No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 ". Well everybody has opinions. The only problem is nobody cares about yours and many kids put way too much weight on the USNews ranking, which is sad, but they still have a lot of influence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know cross-admit data? I'd bet over 90% choose UofC for no other reason than it's #3 and Brown is #14 on US News.

No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 and the split is far from a 90% - 10%. Brown might not be a top 10 school and might be possibly the weakest or second-weakest ivy, but there are plenty of reasons a cross-admit would choose Brown over Chicago, including the ivy league brand. Parchment actually says 49% Chicago - 51% Brown.

Clearly you don't have analysis skills, so I will point a few things out

1) Parchment doesn't break cross admit data by ED vs RD. So any school with an ED plan should have a massive advantage against a school that only had EA till a year ago, if applicants apply to both schools. It is amazing that Brown doesn't have a ratio of 70% to 30%. That tells you what you really need to know. Even with ED, Brown is not competing very well with Chicago on cross admits.
2) Parchment data is not broken by year, so it includes old data when Chicago did not have ED. It will take a few years for that data to get included.
3) The sample size of parchment is quite small. so it is hard to make any definitive predictions based on that limited data set.


As far as "No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 ". Well everybody has opinions. The only problem is nobody cares about yours and many kids put way too much weight on the USNews ranking, which is sad, but they still have a lot of influence.

Hahahah everyone knows Chicago is hilariously overrated by USNews. USNews has a lot of influence but not at this level in the rankings and not to this extent. If it did Princeton would be seen as more desirable than HYS for example. Doesnt work this way.
Only desperate Chicago boosters think their school is a bona fide #3 because USNews says so. Chicago is a bona fide #6-#10, that is as far as it goes. Not an opinion, just a fact backed by all sorts of metrics.

[Anonymous]

If a school has ED then how could those stats show in cross admit stats? Anyone who strongly preferred Brown would apply early, and then either get withdraw or not apply to Chicago at all.

[Anonymous]

They can't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know cross-admit data? I'd bet over 90% choose UofC for no other reason than it's #3 and Brown is #14 on US News.

No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 and the split is far from a 90% - 10%. Brown might not be a top 10 school and might be possibly the weakest or second-weakest ivy, but there are plenty of reasons a cross-admit would choose Brown over Chicago, including the ivy league brand. Parchment actually says 49% Chicago - 51% Brown.

Clearly you don't have analysis skills, so I will point a few things out

1) Parchment doesn't break cross admit data by ED vs RD. So any school with an ED plan should have a massive advantage against a school that only had EA till a year ago, if applicants apply to both schools. It is amazing that Brown doesn't have a ratio of 70% to 30%. That tells you what you really need to know. Even with ED, Brown is not competing very well with Chicago on cross admits.
2) Parchment data is not broken by year, so it includes old data when Chicago did not have ED. It will take a few years for that data to get included.
3) The sample size of parchment is quite small. so it is hard to make any definitive predictions based on that limited data set.


As far as "No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 ". Well everybody has opinions. The only problem is nobody cares about yours and many kids put way too much weight on the USNews ranking, which is sad, but they still have a lot of influence.

Hahahah everyone knows Chicago is hilariously overrated by USNews. USNews has a lot of influence but not at this level in the rankings and not to this extent. If it did Princeton would be seen as more desirable than HYS for example. Doesnt work this way.
Only desperate Chicago boosters think their school is a bona fide #3 because USNews says so. Chicago is a bona fide #6-#10, that is as far as it goes. Not an opinion, just a fact backed by all sorts of metrics.

Listen child, first go back to elementary school and learn the definitions of these words

Facts
Opinions

Or maybe they didn't teach you this at whatever pathetic school you attend, that the entire ranking universe is OPINION. Just because in your delusional reptilian head you have a certain ranking that seems real to you, doesn't mean everybody or anybody else agrees with you. Now here is a fact: USNews is not measuring "student preference", it is trying to measure "best colleges in America" based on certain input factors. If you use USNews' methodology, then indeed Princeton offers a better overall undergrad experience than Stanford and so does Chicago. Quibble with their methodology if you want but don't embarrass yourself by conflating fact and opinion.

Now repeat after me slowly "WHAT I THINK OF A SCHOOL'S RANK IS MY OPINION NOT A FACT AND SAYING THAT IT IS A FACT MAKES ME A DIMWITTED MENTAL SLOTH"

Good! Now go back and do your homework child!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know cross-admit data? I'd bet over 90% choose UofC for no other reason than it's #3 and Brown is #14 on US News.

No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 and the split is far from a 90% - 10%. Brown might not be a top 10 school and might be possibly the weakest or second-weakest ivy, but there are plenty of reasons a cross-admit would choose Brown over Chicago, including the ivy league brand. Parchment actually says 49% Chicago - 51% Brown.

Clearly you don't have analysis skills, so I will point a few things out

1) Parchment doesn't break cross admit data by ED vs RD. So any school with an ED plan should have a massive advantage against a school that only had EA till a year ago, if applicants apply to both schools. It is amazing that Brown doesn't have a ratio of 70% to 30%. That tells you what you really need to know. Even with ED, Brown is not competing very well with Chicago on cross admits.
2) Parchment data is not broken by year, so it includes old data when Chicago did not have ED. It will take a few years for that data to get included.
3) The sample size of parchment is quite small. so it is hard to make any definitive predictions based on that limited data set.


As far as "No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 ". Well everybody has opinions. The only problem is nobody cares about yours and many kids put way too much weight on the USNews ranking, which is sad, but they still have a lot of influence.

Actually, the Parchment cross-admit is only influenced when students are accepted to multiple schools. So they would have had to self report they got into both Brown and UChicago, which wouldn't be possible for a ED admit.

You can't use Parchment for anything beyond peer schools, which UChicago and Brown are. There will be a significant number of students who have gotten into both and used Parchment's service to indicate where they go (or elsewhere).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If a school has ED then how could those stats show in cross admit stats? Anyone who strongly preferred Brown would apply early, and then either get withdraw or not apply to Chicago at all.

Well Chicago has EA, so technically a kid could apply to both Chicago EA and Brown ED and get accepted to both in Dec and then would need to attend Brown ( too late to withdraw the Chicago application by then, they can only decline), which would show up as a win for Brown in parchment's data, but that is just a bogus win.

There could also be a kid who applies RD to both Brown and Chicago, and if such a kid gets into both schools, you could say that the data is more relevant, but even then they might choose to go with a school simply for financial reasons even if it is not their first choice, so cross admit data is not definitive even there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know cross-admit data? I'd bet over 90% choose UofC for no other reason than it's #3 and Brown is #14 on US News.

No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 and the split is far from a 90% - 10%. Brown might not be a top 10 school and might be possibly the weakest or second-weakest ivy, but there are plenty of reasons a cross-admit would choose Brown over Chicago, including the ivy league brand. Parchment actually says 49% Chicago - 51% Brown.

Clearly you don't have analysis skills, so I will point a few things out

1) Parchment doesn't break cross admit data by ED vs RD. So any school with an ED plan should have a massive advantage against a school that only had EA till a year ago, if applicants apply to both schools. It is amazing that Brown doesn't have a ratio of 70% to 30%. That tells you what you really need to know. Even with ED, Brown is not competing very well with Chicago on cross admits.
2) Parchment data is not broken by year, so it includes old data when Chicago did not have ED. It will take a few years for that data to get included.
3) The sample size of parchment is quite small. so it is hard to make any definitive predictions based on that limited data set.


As far as "No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 ". Well everybody has opinions. The only problem is nobody cares about yours and many kids put way too much weight on the USNews ranking, which is sad, but they still have a lot of influence.

Actually, the Parchment cross-admit is only influenced when students are accepted to multiple schools. So they would have had to self report they got into both Brown and UChicago, which wouldn't be possible for a ED admit.

You can't use Parchment for anything beyond peer schools, which UChicago and Brown are. There will be a significant number of students who have gotten into both and used Parchment's service to indicate where they go (or elsewhere).

That is not correct. Chicago has EA, so a kid can apply ED to Brown and EA to Chicago and get admitted to both in Dec

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know cross-admit data? I'd bet over 90% choose UofC for no other reason than it's #3 and Brown is #14 on US News.

No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 and the split is far from a 90% - 10%. Brown might not be a top 10 school and might be possibly the weakest or second-weakest ivy, but there are plenty of reasons a cross-admit would choose Brown over Chicago, including the ivy league brand. Parchment actually says 49% Chicago - 51% Brown.

Clearly you don't have analysis skills, so I will point a few things out

1) Parchment doesn't break cross admit data by ED vs RD. So any school with an ED plan should have a massive advantage against a school that only had EA till a year ago, if applicants apply to both schools. It is amazing that Brown doesn't have a ratio of 70% to 30%. That tells you what you really need to know. Even with ED, Brown is not competing very well with Chicago on cross admits.
2) Parchment data is not broken by year, so it includes old data when Chicago did not have ED. It will take a few years for that data to get included.
3) The sample size of parchment is quite small. so it is hard to make any definitive predictions based on that limited data set.


As far as "No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 ". Well everybody has opinions. The only problem is nobody cares about yours and many kids put way too much weight on the USNews ranking, which is sad, but they still have a lot of influence.

Hahahah everyone knows Chicago is hilariously overrated by USNews. USNews has a lot of influence but not at this level in the rankings and not to this extent. If it did Princeton would be seen as more desirable than HYS for example. Doesnt work this way.
Only desperate Chicago boosters think their school is a bona fide #3 because USNews says so. Chicago is a bona fide #6-#10, that is as far as it goes. Not an opinion, just a fact backed by all sorts of metrics.

Listen child, first go back to elementary school and learn the definitions of these words

Facts
Opinions

Or maybe they didn't teach you this at whatever pathetic school you attend, that the entire ranking universe is OPINION. Just because in your delusional reptilian head you have a certain ranking that seems real to you, doesn't mean everybody or anybody else agrees with you. Now here is a fact: USNews is not measuring "student preference", it is trying to measure "best colleges in America" based on certain input factors. If you use USNews' methodology, then indeed Princeton offers a better overall undergrad experience than Stanford and so does Chicago. Quibble with their methodology if you want but don't embarrass yourself by conflating fact and opinion.

Now repeat after me slowly "WHAT I THINK OF A SCHOOL'S RANK IS MY OPINION NOT A FACT AND SAYING THAT IT IS A FACT MAKES ME A DIMWITTED MENTAL SLOTH"

Good! Now go back and do your homework child!!

You must have mental issues. Feel sorry for you. Everything you just said is a bunch of crap but you are too unhinged to even realize it. What is a better undergrad experience anyway? This is such fuzzy BS. Keep believing that UChicago is a top 5 or even top 3 school for all I care. 99% of people don't and laugh at it for its over the top grubby antics. You seem to have lost touch with reality anyway on all levels, anyway. Bye felicia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know cross-admit data? I'd bet over 90% choose UofC for no other reason than it's #3 and Brown is #14 on US News.

No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 and the split is far from a 90% - 10%. Brown might not be a top 10 school and might be possibly the weakest or second-weakest ivy, but there are plenty of reasons a cross-admit would choose Brown over Chicago, including the ivy league brand. Parchment actually says 49% Chicago - 51% Brown.

Clearly you don't have analysis skills, so I will point a few things out

1) Parchment doesn't break cross admit data by ED vs RD. So any school with an ED plan should have a massive advantage against a school that only had EA till a year ago, if applicants apply to both schools. It is amazing that Brown doesn't have a ratio of 70% to 30%. That tells you what you really need to know. Even with ED, Brown is not competing very well with Chicago on cross admits.
2) Parchment data is not broken by year, so it includes old data when Chicago did not have ED. It will take a few years for that data to get included.
3) The sample size of parchment is quite small. so it is hard to make any definitive predictions based on that limited data set.


As far as "No one actually thinks that Chicago is #3 ". Well everybody has opinions. The only problem is nobody cares about yours and many kids put way too much weight on the USNews ranking, which is sad, but they still have a lot of influence.

Actually, the Parchment cross-admit is only influenced when students are accepted to multiple schools. So they would have had to self report they got into both Brown and UChicago, which wouldn't be possible for a ED admit.

You can't use Parchment for anything beyond peer schools, which UChicago and Brown are. There will be a significant number of students who have gotten into both and used Parchment's service to indicate where they go (or elsewhere).

That is not correct. Chicago has EA, so a kid can apply ED to Brown and EA to Chicago and get admitted to both in Dec

No a Brown ED admit must WITHDRAW his application from Chicago. This does not count as a cross admit. Let alone that Brown and Chicago are vastly different schools and very few people would do ED Brown/EA Chicago anyway.

[Anonymous]

Your kid will be smart and cool after Brown. Your kid will be a neurotic try-hard nutbag on anti-depressants after Chicago.

[Anonymous]

No,.you cannot apply both EA to Chicago and ED to Brown. Brown's website for ED candidate info clearly forbids it.

[Anonymous]

I'd send my kids to Brown over U Chicago because I think they'll be more balanced and "cooler." I've worked with and been friends with a lot of Brown grads and like how they are very smart but also don't stress out like crazy over things. On the flip side, my only concern would be if I think my kid would get too into pot and get lost in that sub-culture which I've also seen is very strong at Brown. Some people I know got a little too into pot there and took forever to graduate and/or didn't do much with such a prestigious degree. Though of course U Chicago is great too - I'm only basing this on my personal experiences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No,.you cannot apply both EA to Chicago and ED to Brown. Brown's website for ED candidate info clearly forbids it.

No it does not. You can apply EA to Chicago and ED to Brown. What you can't do is apply to ED to both Chicago and Brown.