Failed SOL notifications already?

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. The teacher also doesn't need your permission to tell the child that they failed an SOL.

An elementary school teacher that tells a third grader that they failed a standardized test should get a new career! That is just nuts!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. The teacher also doesn't need your permission to tell the child that they failed an SOL.

An elementary school teacher that tells a third grader that they failed a standardized test should get a new career! That is just nuts!

We send the scores home in the Progress Report envelope. The students see the scores at that point.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. The teacher also doesn't need your permission to tell the child that they failed an SOL.

Sure. When I called the school after it happened it seems that they disagree with you.

Different poster here.

Students are pulled into small groups for remediation all the time. We have remediation/enrichment blocks for this. Some students might meet for a short amount of time, others a little longer. The groups change quite often too. During the block of time we have students go between classrooms and we "tackle" groups that way. During language arts or math I pull small groups for reteaching (aka remediation). We do the same thing prior to an SOL retake. The students don't "stand out' because students do this frequently. Nobody needs to give permission.

This was our experience as well. Our kid has not yet passed a reading SOL (special needs; issues with school; pulling DC to go to private next year because of it) and, last year, did remediation and retake. The kids have so many pull-outs for IEP/local AAP/ESOL/speech/etc. that they neither noticed nor cared. We monitored our kid pretty closely last year to make sure that there was no talk of "failing" or the remediation kids being teased, but, to them, it was just another pull-out like pretty much everyone had. Our DC does best in small groups, so the remediation was probably more helpful than classroom instruction.

Same DC didn't pass reading or social studies this year, and we refused remediation because we're not sending DC back to FCPS next year. We can't risk DC falling even further behind. We have a lot of issues with FCPS and our base school, but the SOL remediation was one of the things that they actually handled very well.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. The teacher also doesn't need your permission to tell the child that they failed an SOL.

An elementary school teacher that tells a third grader that they failed a standardized test should get a new career! That is just nuts!

We send the scores home in the Progress Report envelope. The students see the scores at that point.

progress reports are to be opened by parents, not children,in elementary school. Ofcourse a kid could open it before giving to the parent but if following the proper protocol a child still doesn't see the scores unless a parent shows them.

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Anonymous wrote:Failing an SOL doesn't necessarily get you more services or remediation. I think passing a retake can help a kid's confidence. Can you imagine failing at a school with 90% pass rates? That must feel awful for a kid.

in elementary school a child never has to know if they passed or failed a SOL UNLESS a parent tells them! Therefore at that level, boosting confidence is irrelevant unless you tell them they failed.

A teacher told my son he failed it when he was in 3rd grade and started remediation for a retake without our permission.

You don't need parent permission to reteach and/or remediate.

The elementary teacher had NO right to tell your child that they failed! I hope you went to the principal and then up the chain if need be. A lot of elementary schools do remediation within the classroom in small groups. All children(even those that passed) are working on different things. A good teacher, and administration will make sure the kids are not aware of who failed, who is retaking. Teaching in a few different schools this has always been the protocol. I'm sorry your child had to go through that.

Thank you. I did speak to the school about it after it happened because my child came home crying when it happened. The teacher that did this was so frustrated with my child and the other students that she was hitting the table and saying mean things to the kids. She was basically telling them they were stupid, but using different words.

I'm fine with remediation and being pulled for small groups, that is a good thing and helpful. I'm not ok with a teacher telling a 9 year old that they failed a test that they built up the entire year. And I'm definitely not ok with a teacher getting frustrated and angry with students for not understanding something. She was mad because they found the instructions for taking the test confusing!

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. The teacher also doesn't need your permission to tell the child that they failed an SOL.

An elementary school teacher that tells a third grader that they failed a standardized test should get a new career! That is just nuts!

I agree. This teacher didn't have the patience to work with children. Especially if they had any type of learning disabilities.

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Anonymous wrote:Failing an SOL doesn't necessarily get you more services or remediation. I think passing a retake can help a kid's confidence. Can you imagine failing at a school with 90% pass rates? That must feel awful for a kid.

in elementary school a child never has to know if they passed or failed a SOL UNLESS a parent tells them! Therefore at that level, boosting confidence is irrelevant unless you tell them they failed.

A teacher told my son he failed it when he was in 3rd grade and started remediation for a retake without our permission.

You don't need parent permission to reteach and/or remediate.

The elementary teacher had NO right to tell your child that they failed! I hope you went to the principal and then up the chain if need be. A lot of elementary schools do remediation within the classroom in small groups. All children(even those that passed) are working on different things. A good teacher, and administration will make sure the kids are not aware of who failed, who is retaking. Teaching in a few different schools this has always been the protocol. I'm sorry your child had to go through that.

Thank you. I did speak to the school about it after it happened because my child came home crying when it happened. The teacher that did this was so frustrated with my child and the other students that she was hitting the table and saying mean things to the kids. She was basically telling them they were stupid, but using different words.

I'm fine with remediation and being pulled for small groups, that is a good thing and helpful. I'm not ok with a teacher telling a 9 year old that they failed a test that they built up the entire year. And I'm definitely not ok with a teacher getting frustrated and angry with students for not understanding something. She was mad because they found the instructions for taking the test confusing!

Nobody is okay with that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. The teacher also doesn't need your permission to tell the child that they failed an SOL.

An elementary school teacher that tells a third grader that they failed a standardized test should get a new career! That is just nuts!

We send the scores home in the Progress Report envelope. The students see the scores at that point.

progress reports are to be opened by parents, not children,in elementary school. Ofcourse a kid could open it before giving to the parent but if following the proper protocol a child still doesn't see the scores unless a parent shows them.

It's the student's Progress Report with the student's grades. Why not let them see them?

At my elementary grade level we pass out the envelopes and then the reports. The students have a minute or so to look at their grades and then they put them in the envelope. My DW does the same thing at her school.

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Anonymous wrote:Failing an SOL doesn't necessarily get you more services or remediation. I think passing a retake can help a kid's confidence. Can you imagine failing at a school with 90% pass rates? That must feel awful for a kid.

in elementary school a child never has to know if they passed or failed a SOL UNLESS a parent tells them! Therefore at that level, boosting confidence is irrelevant unless you tell them they failed.

A teacher told my son he failed it when he was in 3rd grade and started remediation for a retake without our permission.

You don't need parent permission to reteach and/or remediate.

The elementary teacher had NO right to tell your child that they failed! I hope you went to the principal and then up the chain if need be. A lot of elementary schools do remediation within the classroom in small groups. All children(even those that passed) are working on different things. A good teacher, and administration will make sure the kids are not aware of who failed, who is retaking. Teaching in a few different schools this has always been the protocol. I'm sorry your child had to go through that.

Thank you. I did speak to the school about it after it happened because my child came home crying when it happened. The teacher that did this was so frustrated with my child and the other students that she was hitting the table and saying mean things to the kids. She was basically telling them they were stupid, but using different words.

I'm fine with remediation and being pulled for small groups, that is a good thing and helpful. I'm not ok with a teacher telling a 9 year old that they failed a test that they built up the entire year. And I'm definitely not ok with a teacher getting frustrated and angry with students for not understanding something. She was mad because they found the instructions for taking the test confusing!

Nobody is okay with that.

A few people that responded to my posts didn't seem to think it was a problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Failing an SOL doesn't necessarily get you more services or remediation. I think passing a retake can help a kid's confidence. Can you imagine failing at a school with 90% pass rates? That must feel awful for a kid.

in elementary school a child never has to know if they passed or failed a SOL UNLESS a parent tells them! Therefore at that level, boosting confidence is irrelevant unless you tell them they failed.

A teacher told my son he failed it when he was in 3rd grade and started remediation for a retake without our permission.

You don't need parent permission to reteach and/or remediate.

The elementary teacher had NO right to tell your child that they failed! I hope you went to the principal and then up the chain if need be. A lot of elementary schools do remediation within the classroom in small groups. All children(even those that passed) are working on different things. A good teacher, and administration will make sure the kids are not aware of who failed, who is retaking. Teaching in a few different schools this has always been the protocol. I'm sorry your child had to go through that.

Thank you. I did speak to the school about it after it happened because my child came home crying when it happened. The teacher that did this was so frustrated with my child and the other students that she was hitting the table and saying mean things to the kids. She was basically telling them they were stupid, but using different words.

I'm fine with remediation and being pulled for small groups, that is a good thing and helpful. I'm not ok with a teacher telling a 9 year old that they failed a test that they built up the entire year. And I'm definitely not ok with a teacher getting frustrated and angry with students for not understanding something. She was mad because they found the instructions for taking the test confusing!

Nobody is okay with that.

A few people that responded to my posts didn't seem to think it was a problem.

I went back and read through the thread. I don't see where anyone feels it's ok for the teacher to get so frustrated that she was hitting the table and saying mean things. Nobody wrote that the teacher's actions were ok. Maybe you can find it for me?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New poster here. The teacher also doesn't need your permission to tell the child that they failed an SOL.

An elementary school teacher that tells a third grader that they failed a standardized test should get a new career! That is just nuts!

We send the scores home in the Progress Report envelope. The students see the scores at that point.

progress reports are to be opened by parents, not children,in elementary school. Ofcourse a kid could open it before giving to the parent but if following the proper protocol a child still doesn't see the scores unless a parent shows them.

It's the student's Progress Report with the student's grades. Why not let them see them?

At my elementary grade level we pass out the envelopes and then the reports. The students have a minute or so to look at their grades and then they put them in the envelope. My DW does the same thing at her school.

our elementary only sends them in a sealed envelope. I think the PP post was to reiterate that an elementary student technically never has to know that they failed an SOL. I would hope a teacher would never tell a student that they failed an SOL at an elementary level.

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Anonymous wrote:I've never understood why parents object to their child retaking a test. If it is borderline, why wouldn't you be having a conference to discuss why this happened? They are easy tests. Couldn't this lead to more help during the end of the year and more help the following year? Also, why would you want your child to have a failing record if there was a chance they could pass the test?

Not easy at all for my child. Stressful. Harmful for his heart too. Taking it again would be pointless. You're lucky you don't face this because it's not easy.

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I had a parent of a student in my class ask me if I thought her DD should retake one of the tests. We both knew how long it took her to complete it. I told the parent if it as my own child I wouldn't. They didn't end up retaking.