So are you willing to give up quality of education for diversity?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a false question. Op is a crock of shit. Op is insinuating that whites leave diverse schools for better educations.

This is false. Whites leave diverse schools not for educational reasons but because whites don't want to walk in the shoes of other minorities.

This is proven by what happens when asians get too high of a concentration in schools - white families leave

+1
White flight happened in my children's old school because the white families feared competition from Asian students. Actually, it was a blessing because my children had the best of two worlds. A diverse school that was an academic powerhouse. I don't mind diversity at my children's current school because there are many African and Asian immigrant families who value education. We don't need white students to make our school great. The students at my children's school can run circles around white students. White Americans don't want to buck up and play ball with us because academically speaking we will demolish them in every category. White Americans have done a number on African Americans and Latinos in regards to racist educational practices. Those practices don't work on Asian and African immigrant families. They can leave our schools because we don't care. We prefer that they leave because their children are slowing our children down. Unlike African Americans and Latinos we don't give a damn rather you like us or not. Nor will we beg to have a seat at your table. Asians can and we have made our own tables by becoming the most wealthy and educated individuals in this country. White people like to be dominant. It infuriates them to know that minority children are outperforming their children. I wish their focus was more on equality, but white people's egos are too fragile and insecure. They don't want their children being educated in an environment with lions. So, the leave and go to schools where they can feel superior. It's the nature of the beast. Children who are not academic alphas will be devoured in a predominately Asian school. Academic alphas of all races don't complain they do. Betas run away when they realize they can no longer challenge the alphas.

Some minorities don't need nor do we want white people to help diversify our schools. We already got that covered. Whites don't want equality. They want domination. If they want to flee to low performing schools, then good riddance!


^^^ ASIAN VERSION OF LOUIS FARRAKHAN
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a false question. Op is a crock of shit. Op is insinuating that whites leave diverse schools for better educations.

This is false. Whites leave diverse schools not for educational reasons but because whites don't want to walk in the shoes of other minorities.

This is proven by what happens when asians get too high of a concentration in schools - white families leave

+1
White flight happened in my children's old school because the white families feared competition from Asian students. Actually, it was a blessing because my children had the best of two worlds. A diverse school that was an academic powerhouse. I don't mind diversity at my children's current school because there are many African and Asian immigrant families who value education. We don't need white students to make our school great. The students at my children's school can run circles around white students. White Americans don't want to buck up and play ball with us because academically speaking we will demolish them in every category. White Americans have done a number on African Americans and Latinos in regards to racist educational practices. Those practices don't work on Asian and African immigrant families. They can leave our schools because we don't care. We prefer that they leave because their children are slowing our children down. Unlike African Americans and Latinos we don't give a damn rather you like us or not. Nor will we beg to have a seat at your table. Asians can and we have made our own tables by becoming the most wealthy and educated individuals in this country. White people like to be dominant. It infuriates them to know that minority children are outperforming their children. I wish their focus was more on equality, but white people's egos are too fragile and insecure. They don't want their children being educated in an environment with lions. So, the leave and go to schools where they can feel superior. It's the nature of the beast. Children who are not academic alphas will be devoured in a predominately Asian school. Academic alphas of all races don't complain they do. Betas run away when they realize they can no longer challenge the alphas.

Some minorities don't need nor do we want white people to help diversify our schools. We already got that covered. Whites don't want equality. They want domination. If they want to flee to low performing schools, then good riddance!





Okeydokey, crazy person. Good luck with... stuff.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a false question. Op is a crock of shit. Op is insinuating that whites leave diverse schools for better educations.

This is false. Whites leave diverse schools not for educational reasons but because whites don't want to walk in the shoes of other minorities.

This is proven by what happens when asians get too high of a concentration in schools - white families leave

+1
White flight happened in my children's old school because the white families feared competition from Asian students. Actually, it was a blessing because my children had the best of two worlds. A diverse school that was an academic powerhouse. I don't mind diversity at my children's current school because there are many African and Asian immigrant families who value education. We don't need white students to make our school great. The students at my children's school can run circles around white students. White Americans don't want to buck up and play ball with us because academically speaking we will demolish them in every category. White Americans have done a number on African Americans and Latinos in regards to racist educational practices. Those practices don't work on Asian and African immigrant families. They can leave our schools because we don't care. We prefer that they leave because their children are slowing our children down. Unlike African Americans and Latinos we don't give a damn rather you like us or not. Nor will we beg to have a seat at your table. Asians can and we have made our own tables by becoming the most wealthy and educated individuals in this country. White people like to be dominant. It infuriates them to know that minority children are outperforming their children. I wish their focus was more on equality, but white people's egos are too fragile and insecure. They don't want their children being educated in an environment with lions. So, the leave and go to schools where they can feel superior. It's the nature of the beast. Children who are not academic alphas will be devoured in a predominately Asian school. Academic alphas of all races don't complain they do. Betas run away when they realize they can no longer challenge the alphas.

Some minorities don't need nor do we want white people to help diversify our schools. We already got that covered. Whites don't want equality. They want domination. If they want to flee to low performing schools, then good riddance!


It's ok, you are welcome to think of yourselves as alphas.. but really you are just high quality staff to the country's elites. Who are not Asian and sure not African.
Anonymous
My children have always had diversity in their schools. Their education is not lacking because of it. Education begins at home, and continues at home. Most of you sound like snobs and racists, no matter how liberal you are pretending to be.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It may not be popular or PC or what ever the hell is in vouge right now, but I would never knowingly place my child in a low performing school for the sake of social diversity. I know a family that has done this and it, shall we say, is not going well.


my brother's child goes to a school where 60% of parents work at google. yes, the school is very "high performing". is that the kind of school that you would send your kids to?


Guaranteed it is incredibly ethnically diverse.

ummm no... All Asian and White. Not very diverse. My kids used to go to school out that way. It wasn't diverse at all. The only diversity was that there were a handful of "poor" Hispanics. Rest were wealthy white and Asian.

We chose an 8 over a 10 because of the diversity. The 10 school had no diversity, either in SES or race. If the HS is a <5 , then probably not. BTW, when a school is over 50% of any race, that's not diverse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm a teacher and the only way I would choose a more diverse school for my child is if it is a magnet school. My DS went to a magnet school for ES. It was more diverse racially and SES wise. It had the same test scores as the higher SES schools in our county. Why? It has motivated parents. Parents had to provide their own transportation to school except for students zoned for a few schools nearby the magnet school. Those students were bused from those close by schools to the magnet. If parents are willing to drive their kids all over the county to get to school, there is a lot more motivation there than at a magnet school where nobody has to provide transportation. I work in a Title One school and we have great teachers here but the average student is much lower in terms of reading level than the average elsewhere. So the only way my kid would come to my school is if he was low average. That is who gets most of our time here because there are so many students in that category.

I'm guessing this Title1 school is not really diverse, just has a lot of very poor brown/black kids. That's not diverse. You guys are really funny thinking that "diverse" means 50%+ black/brown.
Anonymous
It is racially diverse. 40% white, 40% Hispanic and the rest AA. But it is not diverse in terms of SES. 95% qualify for FARMS.
Anonymous
I prioritize diversity--SES and racial/ethnic. But my DH and I have PhDs, so we supplement at home in addition to having the ability to give the kids a lot of social and cultural capital by virtue of our class/status. I went to diverse schools because my Dad was military and honestly, I didn't know how batshit racist Americans were until I grew up and lived in the US (away from military bases) for more than three years at a time. The racism still floors me as an adult.
Anonymous
Liberal elite "diversity" = Indian and black kids with MD and corporate lawyer parents. Such phonies.

Or even better, some free lunch kids at a public school that your children never actually see or associate with because they're all "normal track" and your tiger cubs are all protected from them in honors and AP track courses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is racially diverse. 40% white, 40% Hispanic and the rest AA. But it is not diverse in terms of SES. 95% qualify for FARMS.


Where are you in the DC area that almost 90% of the white kids qualify for FARMS?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Liberal elite "diversity" = Indian and black kids with MD and corporate lawyer parents. Such phonies.

Or even better, some free lunch kids at a public school that your children never actually see or associate with because they're all "normal track" and your tiger cubs are all protected from them in honors and AP track courses.


Because it's only diversity when the brown and black kids are poor?

Here are the demographics of my kid's high school: 18% Asian, 28% black/African-American, 28% Hispanic, 22% white, 27% currently qualify for FARMS, 51% currently qualify or in the past have qualified for FARMS. And perhaps you will be surprised to hear that there are FARMS kids in honors and AP classes, but you shouldn't be. Do I count as a member of the "liberal elite"?

Diversity vs. quality of education is a false choice. In this part of the country, these days, if you're not experiencing diversity in school, you're not getting a good quality of education. None of us are doing our kids any favors by only sending them to school with other kids like them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:School diversity is so overrated. It's 2017, kids are exposed to diversity on social media, they don't NEED it in class. The forced diversity never works anyways, kids always just buddy up by ethnicity and SES.


You are wrong about this on so many levels.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is racially diverse. 40% white, 40% Hispanic and the rest AA. But it is not diverse in terms of SES. 95% qualify for FARMS.


Where are you in the DC area that almost 90% of the white kids qualify for FARMS?



I never wrote that almost 90% of the white kids qualified for FARMS. I wrote that 40% of the school is white and 95% of the school qualifies for FARMS. This is in Maryland. There are plenty of poor white kids too. Concentrated poverty is the problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Liberal elite "diversity" = Indian and black kids with MD and corporate lawyer parents. Such phonies.

Or even better, some free lunch kids at a public school that your children never actually see or associate with because they're all "normal track" and your tiger cubs are all protected from them in honors and AP track courses.


Because it's only diversity when the brown and black kids are poor?

Here are the demographics of my kid's high school: 18% Asian, 28% black/African-American, 28% Hispanic, 22% white, 27% currently qualify for FARMS, 51% currently qualify or in the past have qualified for FARMS. And perhaps you will be surprised to hear that there are FARMS kids in honors and AP classes, but you shouldn't be. Do I count as a member of the "liberal elite"?

Diversity vs. quality of education is a false choice. In this part of the country, these days, if you're not experiencing diversity in school, you're not getting a good quality of education. None of us are doing our kids any favors by only sending them to school with other kids like them.


Who said only brown and black kids are poor? Examine you motives.

And how do you know how many of the 27% of FARMS kids at your school are in AP classes?
Anonymous
"My kid's school is so diverse!"

— kid is exclusively in honors/AP courses
— plays patrician sport no poor kids can afford to be good at
— in one or two clubs/groups that poor kids aren't, e.g. Model UN, theater, debate
— kid only hangs with upper NW rich kids at and outside of school
post reply Forum Index » Schools and Education General Discussion
Message Quick Reply
Go to: