Parking illegally for church not ticketed?

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Anonymous wrote:It is not just a DC thing. I remember visiting a friend in Boston several years ago. Cars were allowed to park in the middle of certain streets for church.

Did anyone talk to the Cahd-nuhl about it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't get-- why don't they just change the parking around more churches to ALLOW parking on Sunday mornings only? That certainly exists around some churches-- why not extend it, and then enforce?

I'd much prefer legal parking for a 4-hour window (or whatever) than random illegal parking all day.

Been working, only the new folks want to change. Not everything in life has to be micromanaged.

Life isn't all about getting to yoga a minute earlier.

It isn't working as people are parking illegally. It would make things work BETTER and everyone would know the rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the way church parking has worked for decades.

Just because YOU live here now, doesn't mean you get to transform every detail of the neighborhood into something that fits your idea of how things "should be".

Those people at the church were parking like that 30 years before you bought your renovated, subdivided human filing cabinet with granite countertops and bamboo floors.

So just accept it as part of living in a city.

I am confused. If its not the folks who live here now who get to set policy, who is it?

I'd say it's pretty clear that the folks who live there now DON'T get to set the policy.

You don't get to move into a neighborhood and transform it just because YOU live there now. Life doesn't work that way.

Parking enforcement is a policy set by the District govt. In most cities the local government answers to the wishes of voters. In DC, that would include all voters in DC, but not residents of the suburbs, I would think.

Why do former residents who now live in another state get to set parking policy in the District?

Well MD and VA residents, via their elected officials, get to make more than parking polices for DC. It is primarily MD and VA electors who block commuter taxing into DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the way church parking has worked for decades.

Just because YOU live here now, doesn't mean you get to transform every detail of the neighborhood into something that fits your idea of how things "should be".

Those people at the church were parking like that 30 years before you bought your renovated, subdivided human filing cabinet with granite countertops and bamboo floors.

So just accept it as part of living in a city.

But I couldn't get my parked car (and I had a sticker allowing me to park near my cheap townhouse on capital Hill) out on Sundays because I was blocked by cars going to the Ebenezer United Methodist Church at 400 D Street SE. When I walked over to ask the ushers what I was supposed to do (it was urgent) they laughed at me. I wrote a letter to the pastor and he sent back a very ugly nasty letter. So much for Christianity.

Did you think about asking for a toll struck. JAsking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the way church parking has worked for decades.

Just because YOU live here now, doesn't mean you get to transform every detail of the neighborhood into something that fits your idea of how things "should be".

Those people at the church were parking like that 30 years before you bought your renovated, subdivided human filing cabinet with granite countertops and bamboo floors.

So just accept it as part of living in a city.

But I couldn't get my parked car (and I had a sticker allowing me to park near my cheap townhouse on capital Hill) out on Sundays because I was blocked by cars going to the Ebenezer United Methodist Church at 400 D Street SE. When I walked over to ask the ushers what I was supposed to do (it was urgent) they laughed at me. I wrote a letter to the pastor and he sent back a very ugly nasty letter. So much for Christianity.

They were right to laugh at you!

Seriously- were you REALLY expecting them to stop the sermon or singing hymns and make an announcement like "would the owner of a gold Escalade with MD tags "przjzus" please move your vehicle? It's an emergency, you're blocking in a young white hipster"



Lololololololz

Of course I didn't expect that. But their cars were blocking four blocks of other citizens' cars. No one could get out and do anything or get their own kids to church. Couldn't they leave their keys with the usher? That's what I would do if I were running a church like that. So we solved the problem by having the police come and tow. End of problem. But I still think it unChristian of a church to illegally park, knowing they were blocking in all the residents for 5 hours on a Sunday morning. That's just rude.

Disregard my earlier question regarding towing. I would have done exactly what you did.

Signed,

Born and raised Washingtonian.

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Go to church in your own neighborhood.

They ARE in their "own" neighborhood.

YOU are the outsider. Why is this so hard for you to understand? It's a very simple thing....

No, I LIVE in DC. These people driving from Maryland do not. Is that seriously hard for YOU to understand?

You're missing the point.

You live there NOW.

Their parents and grandparents lived there before you were even born. They might not live there now, but they grew up there, and it's still THEIR neighborhood, regardless of where they live now, or who occupies it at the moment.

You're an idiot.

-NP

NP, I think I get what PPP is saying. PP when you go back home to visit your family, do you consider that your neighborhood. A place and home that you will always feel you belong. As ET says, home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, but they grew up there. There grandmother still lives there. Other family still lives there.

It will ALWAYS be "their" neighborhood, because THEY have a family history there. You, do not. You're there until your next career move happens, and you're off to another city. And after you leave, they'll stil be double parking, long after you're gentrifying someplace else.

Your white privilege has no power when it comes to church parking.

Deal.

My husband is white, born and raised in this city. It's not white or black it's D.C. Vs MD

But you are the one complaining? He grew up in NW? Say whatever makes you feel better about your privilege.

DP. I don't think that's fair and you are making a very poor argument. Look, I too grew up in DC. I'm probably older than you are. I refuse to drive down RI Avenue NE on a Sunday because 4 mega churches decided to build their monstrosities without any regard for parking. Four big churches, not to include the storefronts, within three-blocks of each other. The building of the subway garage relieved some of the Sunday pressure, but the double parking, stopping traffic is and was very inconsiderate of those of us who were there before the churches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, but they grew up there. There grandmother still lives there. Other family still lives there.

It will ALWAYS be "their" neighborhood, because THEY have a family history there. You, do not. You're there until your next career move happens, and you're off to another city. And after you leave, they'll stil be double parking, long after you're gentrifying someplace else.

Your white privilege has no power when it comes to church parking.

Deal.

My husband is white, born and raised in this city. It's not white or black it's D.C. Vs MD

But you are the one complaining? He grew up in NW? Say whatever makes you feel better about your privilege.

DP. I don't think that's fair and you are making a very poor argument. Look, I too grew up in DC. I'm probably older than you are. I refuse to drive down RI Avenue NE on a Sunday because 4 mega churches decided to build their monstrosities without any regard for parking. Four big churches, not to include the storefronts, within three-blocks of each other. The building of the subway garage relieved some of the Sunday pressure, but the double parking, stopping traffic is and was very inconsiderate of those of us who were there before the churches.

^ I've never been white, and I had to earn every bit of privilege you might think I have.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You must be new around here. Church goers in DC are not required to follow the law.

This has been a battle for years and years. I don't even live in DC proper and I am familiar with the residents vs black churchgoers (who travel to the city for church) war that has been waged for years. Lots of media coverage. Church has been winning.

What's "DC proper"?! Why not just say Washington or the District?

DP. Because a lot of people who live in surrounding DC, such as Silver Spring, Alexandria, Bethesda, Manassas say they are from DC. I assume PPP was just making it clear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is the way church parking has worked for decades.

Just because YOU live here now, doesn't mean you get to transform every detail of the neighborhood into something that fits your idea of how things "should be".

Those people at the church were parking like that 30 years before you bought your renovated, subdivided human filing cabinet with granite countertops and bamboo floors.

So just accept it as part of living in a city.

I am confused. If its not the folks who live here now who get to set policy, who is it?

I'd say it's pretty clear that the folks who live there now DON'T get to set the policy.

You don't get to move into a neighborhood and transform it just because YOU live there now. Life doesn't work that way.

Parking enforcement is a policy set by the District govt. In most cities the local government answers to the wishes of voters. In DC, that would include all voters in DC, but not residents of the suburbs, I would think.

Why do former residents who now live in another state get to set parking policy in the District?

Well MD and VA residents, via their elected officials, get to make more than parking polices for DC. It is primarily MD and VA electors who block commuter taxing into DC.

Yes, and the DC govt opposes that situation, as do most DC citizens, I guess. That still does not answer the question though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gentrifiers moving into the city then complaining about how they don't like how the city is run.
Get a grip. This is one morning a week. You don't own the streets.

i don't understand why people don't know how to share.

+1

Thank you. The irony of the OP is the Lincoln Park situation. Church parking against the curb around the park on Sunday morning is actually a totally reasonable approach. It is in fact harmless and doesn't even inconvenience anyone.

I live two blocks from the park and will try not to slap OP's face when I see her in the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Gentrifiers moving into the city then complaining about how they don't like how the city is run.
Get a grip. This is one morning a week. You don't own the streets.

i don't understand why people don't know how to share.

+1

Thank you. The irony of the OP is the Lincoln Park situation. Church parking against the curb around the park on Sunday morning is actually a totally reasonable approach. It is in fact harmless and doesn't even inconvenience anyone.

I live two blocks from the park and will try not to slap OP's face when I see her in the neighborhood.

The Lincoln Park situation is fine. I lived there before folks worried about their nanny shares.

Community was there long before some folks wanted to transplant Alexandria ways to DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You must be new around here. Church goers in DC are not required to follow the law.

It's always amusing to see the newcomers not understand the role of the Ninth Ward in DC politics.

What the hell does that mean? This has been a fight for a really long time in DC. These churches were here when no one would step foot in those neighborhoods. You must not remember when Lincoln Park was considered the "hood". Churches stayed. Stop being so selfish.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You must be new around here. Church goers in DC are not required to follow the law.

It's always amusing to see the newcomers not understand the role of the Ninth Ward in DC politics.

What the hell does that mean? This has been a fight for a really long time in DC. These churches were here when no one would step foot in those neighborhoods. You must not remember when Lincoln Park was considered the "hood". Churches stayed. Stop being so selfish.

+ 1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You must be new around here. Church goers in DC are not required to follow the law.

It's always amusing to see the newcomers not understand the role of the Ninth Ward in DC politics.

What the hell does that mean? This has been a fight for a really long time in DC. These churches were here when no one would step foot in those neighborhoods. You must not remember when Lincoln Park was considered the "hood". Churches stayed. Stop being so selfish.

+ 1000

What's selfish is illegally parking.