Is my child gifted? In Arlington magazine this month

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Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

Depends. Are they white? Are their parents at least middle class?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

No. It's just for Wakefield

Wakefield has a much lower number of kids applying to college, so it will be really beneficial to that part of the county. W-l I think will benefit as well. I don't really see many Yorktown kids taking this route, and certainly not 200. I could be wrong. Either way Yorktown is supposed to have less crowding right? We have a sizable cohort of kids in Arlington that aren't on their way to college. What we offer them is likely much more important than GT programs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

No. It's just for Wakefield

Wakefield has a much lower number of kids applying to college, so it will be really beneficial to that part of the county. W-l I think will benefit as well. I don't really see many Yorktown kids taking this route, and certainly not 200. I could be wrong. Either way Yorktown is supposed to have less crowding right? We have a sizable cohort of kids in Arlington that aren't on their way to college. What we offer them is likely much more important than GT programs.

Look, unless the reason they aren't applying to college is that they just arrived in this country in the last two years and speak no English and had no prior formal schooling (and I am sure there are a number of these students in Arlington) and have no hope of succeeding in college, we should NOT be pushing kids to a vocational track. For what? All those good factory and manufacturing jobs that no longer exist? Yes, we still need plumbers and mechanics and street sweepers, but kids shouldn't automatically be put into this box if they can be pushed toward college. I know many of you don't believe that it's possible for these students to graduate from college and find gainful employment in jobs that aren't dirty and hard on the body and that offer benefits like 401K's. But it is possible, and if we allow them to settle for less, they will. Each child should be pushed to reach their highest potential, regardless of their country of origin, their native language, or their current zip code. I know the helicopter brigade up at Yorktown isn't going to let their snowflakes be pushed to Arl Tech, even if their natural ability level indicates Vo Tech would be a better fit than college, so why should we allow this to happen to Wakefield kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

No. It's just for Wakefield

Wakefield has a much lower number of kids applying to college, so it will be really beneficial to that part of the county. W-l I think will benefit as well. I don't really see many Yorktown kids taking this route, and certainly not 200. I could be wrong. Either way Yorktown is supposed to have less crowding right? We have a sizable cohort of kids in Arlington that aren't on their way to college. What we offer them is likely much more important than GT programs.

not applying for "top schools" = not on their way to college = need vocational school? huh?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

No. It's just for Wakefield

Wakefield has a much lower number of kids applying to college, so it will be really beneficial to that part of the county. W-l I think will benefit as well. I don't really see many Yorktown kids taking this route, and certainly not 200. I could be wrong. Either way Yorktown is supposed to have less crowding right? We have a sizable cohort of kids in Arlington that aren't on their way to college. What we offer them is likely much more important than GT programs.

not applying for "top schools" = not on their way to college = need vocational school? huh?

Are you playing dumb or are you actually dumb? I can't tell.
Kids at Wakefield aren't applying to any school. As it says above. " lower number of kids applying to college".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

No. It's just for Wakefield

Wakefield has a much lower number of kids applying to college, so it will be really beneficial to that part of the county. W-l I think will benefit as well. I don't really see many Yorktown kids taking this route, and certainly not 200. I could be wrong. Either way Yorktown is supposed to have less crowding right? We have a sizable cohort of kids in Arlington that aren't on their way to college. What we offer them is likely much more important than GT programs.

Look, unless the reason they aren't applying to college is that they just arrived in this country in the last two years and speak no English and had no prior formal schooling (and I am sure there are a number of these students in Arlington) and have no hope of succeeding in college, we should NOT be pushing kids to a vocational track. For what? All those good factory and manufacturing jobs that no longer exist? Yes, we still need plumbers and mechanics and street sweepers, but kids shouldn't automatically be put into this box if they can be pushed toward college. I know many of you don't believe that it's possible for these students to graduate from college and find gainful employment in jobs that aren't dirty and hard on the body and that offer benefits like 401K's. But it is possible, and if we allow them to settle for less, they will. Each child should be pushed to reach their highest potential, regardless of their country of origin, their native language, or their current zip code. I know the helicopter brigade up at Yorktown isn't going to let their snowflakes be pushed to Arl Tech, even if their natural ability level indicates Vo Tech would be a better fit than college, so why should we allow this to happen to Wakefield kids?

Wow. People like you are a huge part of the problem. Yes, Wakefield has plenty of kids that are poor and English is not their native language. They would be best served with vocational training. Manufacturing jobs? No. Trades? Yes.
Your privledge and elitism isn't helping those kids, even if it's well meaning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe they've followed up on aap in Fairfax, and those kids haven't out performed AP students who didn't do aap. There really isn't that much at stake.
And if you are so worried that your budding north Arlington rocket scientist won't be placed into GT, move to south Arlington. It's much easier to get a GT designation at Randolf or Drew.

This isn't true. There is no study on this. I'd love to see one, though.

Well, seeing how well the TJ kids do on just about everything, SATs, AP tests, SOLs, National Merit, etc, etc, and the fact that the vast majority of TJ kids come from AAP programs, it is very safe to say that PP is just making up things.

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Ggod to see the Aelington parents are meaner than the fcps parents about gifted education, especially since they so often wring their hands in the AAP threads about how glad they are not to have "that gifted nonsense" over in Arlington.

It would be very amusing if they weren't so mean in their posts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

No. It's just for Wakefield

Wakefield has a much lower number of kids applying to college, so it will be really beneficial to that part of the county. W-l I think will benefit as well. I don't really see many Yorktown kids taking this route, and certainly not 200. I could be wrong. Either way Yorktown is supposed to have less crowding right? We have a sizable cohort of kids in Arlington that aren't on their way to college. What we offer them is likely much more important than GT programs.

Look, unless the reason they aren't applying to college is that they just arrived in this country in the last two years and speak no English and had no prior formal schooling (and I am sure there are a number of these students in Arlington) and have no hope of succeeding in college, we should NOT be pushing kids to a vocational track. For what? All those good factory and manufacturing jobs that no longer exist? Yes, we still need plumbers and mechanics and street sweepers, but kids shouldn't automatically be put into this box if they can be pushed toward college. I know many of you don't believe that it's possible for these students to graduate from college and find gainful employment in jobs that aren't dirty and hard on the body and that offer benefits like 401K's. But it is possible, and if we allow them to settle for less, they will. Each child should be pushed to reach their highest potential, regardless of their country of origin, their native language, or their current zip code. I know the helicopter brigade up at Yorktown isn't going to let their snowflakes be pushed to Arl Tech, even if their natural ability level indicates Vo Tech would be a better fit than college, so why should we allow this to happen to Wakefield kids?

This is probably the best thing I've ever seen written here. Thank you.

-Future Wakefield parent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

No. It's just for Wakefield

Wakefield has a much lower number of kids applying to college, so it will be really beneficial to that part of the county. W-l I think will benefit as well. I don't really see many Yorktown kids taking this route, and certainly not 200. I could be wrong. Either way Yorktown is supposed to have less crowding right? We have a sizable cohort of kids in Arlington that aren't on their way to college. What we offer them is likely much more important than GT programs.

Look, unless the reason they aren't applying to college is that they just arrived in this country in the last two years and speak no English and had no prior formal schooling (and I am sure there are a number of these students in Arlington) and have no hope of succeeding in college, we should NOT be pushing kids to a vocational track. For what? All those good factory and manufacturing jobs that no longer exist? Yes, we still need plumbers and mechanics and street sweepers, but kids shouldn't automatically be put into this box if they can be pushed toward college. I know many of you don't believe that it's possible for these students to graduate from college and find gainful employment in jobs that aren't dirty and hard on the body and that offer benefits like 401K's. But it is possible, and if we allow them to settle for less, they will. Each child should be pushed to reach their highest potential, regardless of their country of origin, their native language, or their current zip code. I know the helicopter brigade up at Yorktown isn't going to let their snowflakes be pushed to Arl Tech, even if their natural ability level indicates Vo Tech would be a better fit than college, so why should we allow this to happen to Wakefield kids?

Wow. People like you are a huge part of the problem. Yes, Wakefield has plenty of kids that are poor and English is not their native language. They would be best served with vocational training. Manufacturing jobs? No. Trades? Yes.
Your privledge and elitism isn't helping those kids, even if it's well meaning.

Well I guess you haven't met any poor immigrants who went to college and not into trades, but I assure you it's possible. I know this because I've lived it. Would some students be better served going into trades? Yes. But they aren't exclusively immigrant and poor. Your racism and xenophobia is showing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

No. It's just for Wakefield

Wakefield has a much lower number of kids applying to college, so it will be really beneficial to that part of the county. W-l I think will benefit as well. I don't really see many Yorktown kids taking this route, and certainly not 200. I could be wrong. Either way Yorktown is supposed to have less crowding right? We have a sizable cohort of kids in Arlington that aren't on their way to college. What we offer them is likely much more important than GT programs.

Look, unless the reason they aren't applying to college is that they just arrived in this country in the last two years and speak no English and had no prior formal schooling (and I am sure there are a number of these students in Arlington) and have no hope of succeeding in college, we should NOT be pushing kids to a vocational track. For what? All those good factory and manufacturing jobs that no longer exist? Yes, we still need plumbers and mechanics and street sweepers, but kids shouldn't automatically be put into this box if they can be pushed toward college. I know many of you don't believe that it's possible for these students to graduate from college and find gainful employment in jobs that aren't dirty and hard on the body and that offer benefits like 401K's. But it is possible, and if we allow them to settle for less, they will. Each child should be pushed to reach their highest potential, regardless of their country of origin, their native language, or their current zip code. I know the helicopter brigade up at Yorktown isn't going to let their snowflakes be pushed to Arl Tech, even if their natural ability level indicates Vo Tech would be a better fit than college, so why should we allow this to happen to Wakefield kids?

Wow. People like you are a huge part of the problem. Yes, Wakefield has plenty of kids that are poor and English is not their native language. They would be best served with vocational training. Manufacturing jobs? No. Trades? Yes.
Your privledge and elitism isn't helping those kids, even if it's well meaning.

Well I guess you haven't met any poor immigrants who went to college and not into trades, but I assure you it's possible. I know this because I've lived it. Would some students be better served going into trades? Yes. But they aren't exclusively immigrant and poor. Your racism and xenophobia is showing.

You are very intellectually lazy if your only retort is to cry racism. As it stands right now, Wakefield is geared toward kids aiming for college. Plenty of AP courses are offered. There is nothing wrong with making a living. I find your condescension toward blue collar work very offensive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eh, verbal ability is a huge component in intelligence. It's heavily weighted -- no wonder talkative kindergartners are more likely to be identified as gifted than quiet children.

Sounds like your kids didn't make the cut and you're bitter, OP. I get that, it can be a hard pill to swallow.

Spoken like a true Snowflake lobbyist.

Ah, OP, so very butthurt. If only your butthurt could get your kids into the gifted program! Why, the teachers would be amazed at how very hurt your butt was and they would put little laconic Larla right in the group!

Not PP, but as the parent of a gifted kid with a language disorder, you can go fuck yourself. My kid didn't talk much but was still (and is) gifted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It think Arlington tech should be a vocational school. Look at how few kids apply for top schools out of Wakefiled. Those kids need career/job training. We need that more than another TJ.

kids who don't apply for "top schools" = kids who need vocational school? huh?

Yes. Wakefield is full of kids who are not on track to attend any college. They need training. Arlington tech is really needed.

what about kids from the other four high schools who don't "apply for top schools" - do you send them to career center too?

No. It's just for Wakefield

Wakefield has a much lower number of kids applying to college, so it will be really beneficial to that part of the county. W-l I think will benefit as well. I don't really see many Yorktown kids taking this route, and certainly not 200. I could be wrong. Either way Yorktown is supposed to have less crowding right? We have a sizable cohort of kids in Arlington that aren't on their way to college. What we offer them is likely much more important than GT programs.

Look, unless the reason they aren't applying to college is that they just arrived in this country in the last two years and speak no English and had no prior formal schooling (and I am sure there are a number of these students in Arlington) and have no hope of succeeding in college, we should NOT be pushing kids to a vocational track. For what? All those good factory and manufacturing jobs that no longer exist? Yes, we still need plumbers and mechanics and street sweepers, but kids shouldn't automatically be put into this box if they can be pushed toward college. I know many of you don't believe that it's possible for these students to graduate from college and find gainful employment in jobs that aren't dirty and hard on the body and that offer benefits like 401K's. But it is possible, and if we allow them to settle for less, they will. Each child should be pushed to reach their highest potential, regardless of their country of origin, their native language, or their current zip code. I know the helicopter brigade up at Yorktown isn't going to let their snowflakes be pushed to Arl Tech, even if their natural ability level indicates Vo Tech would be a better fit than college, so why should we allow this to happen to Wakefield kids?

Wow. People like you are a huge part of the problem. Yes, Wakefield has plenty of kids that are poor and English is not their native language. They would be best served with vocational training. Manufacturing jobs? No. Trades? Yes.
Your privledge and elitism isn't helping those kids, even if it's well meaning.

Well I guess you haven't met any poor immigrants who went to college and not into trades, but I assure you it's possible. I know this because I've lived it. Would some students be better served going into trades? Yes. But they aren't exclusively immigrant and poor. Your racism and xenophobia is showing.

You are very intellectually lazy if your only retort is to cry racism. As it stands right now, Wakefield is geared toward kids aiming for college. Plenty of AP courses are offered. There is nothing wrong with making a living. I find your condescension toward blue collar work very offensive.

I have nothing against blue collar work, or making a living. The reality is, for the most part, it does not pay well. It is more physically taxing. And the benefits associated with the work (health insurance, retirement accounts, etc.) aren't typically very good and certainly not equal to most white collar jobs. If we can do a better job of identifying talented children early, especially those who are overlooked simply because English isn't their native language, why couldn't we push them toward college? I mean, I am pretty sure that if my uncle, an adult immigrant, had the option to become an engineer instead of a mechanic, he would have jumped at the chance rather than spending a lifetime working on asbestos-laden brake pads that led to his mesothelioma and early death. That's not elitism. That's cold, hard reality. He was a wonderful person, and a great father. And he worked until the day he died so that both of his kids could go to college, because he did not want his life for them.

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Many minorities take advantage of going to NoVA for 2 years (saves a helluva lot of $) and then transferring into UVA, Mason, Tech, etc.

Smarter than most of you