Boy Killed on Kansas Water Slide

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Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!


It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?


Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.


Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?


Yes, it's wrong, you creep.


Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.


Nothing will bring his child back and I doubt very much this father will be thinking about tort reform now or in the future. He'll probably be re-living the nightmare of losing his child.

Instead of focusing on after-the-fact, why not think about making these rides safer? That stupid netting is not for the safety of people but to keep cell phones from flying out. It's the same as what was above the wild dog habitat where that fell in and died.

Also, it's kind of insane that high school and college kids are basically allowed to guesstimate the weight of a raft. It's like Russian roulette with safety.
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Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!


It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?


Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.


Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?


Yes, it's wrong, you creep.


Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.


Nothing will bring his child back and I doubt very much this father will be thinking about tort reform now or in the future. He'll probably be re-living the nightmare of losing his child.

Instead of focusing on after-the-fact, why not think about making these rides safer? That stupid netting is not for the safety of people but to keep cell phones from flying out. It's the same as what was above the wild dog habitat where that fell in and died.

Also, it's kind of insane that high school and college kids are basically allowed to guesstimate the weight of a raft. It's like Russian roulette with safety.


where have you seen that they guesstimate? I have read multiple places that they weigh people twice.
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I suspect riders stand on a big scale before getting on. Even Dutch Wonderland had that feature for little water slides.
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A witness at the scene says that he did appear to be decapitated. http://abc7.com/news/gruesome-details-revealed-in-boys-water-slide-death/1462000/
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Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!


It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?


Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.


Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?


Yes, it's wrong, you creep.


Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.


Nothing will bring his child back and I doubt very much this father will be thinking about tort reform now or in the future. He'll probably be re-living the nightmare of losing his child.

Instead of focusing on after-the-fact, why not think about making these rides safer? That stupid netting is not for the safety of people but to keep cell phones from flying out. It's the same as what was above the wild dog habitat where that fell in and died.

Also, it's kind of insane that high school and college kids are basically allowed to guesstimate the weight of a raft. It's like Russian roulette with safety.

It is almost like the business should be regulated.
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Is there a link to the assertion that lack of regulation is what allowed this park to build this ride in Kansas?
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Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!


It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?


Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.


Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?


Yes, it's wrong, you creep.


Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.


Nothing will bring his child back and I doubt very much this father will be thinking about tort reform now or in the future. He'll probably be re-living the nightmare of losing his child.

Instead of focusing on after-the-fact, why not think about making these rides safer? That stupid netting is not for the safety of people but to keep cell phones from flying out. It's the same as what was above the wild dog habitat where that fell in and died.

Also, it's kind of insane that high school and college kids are basically allowed to guesstimate the weight of a raft. It's like Russian roulette with safety.


You must be kidding. Regulating the ride is the way to make sure it is safe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I suspect riders stand on a big scale before getting on. Even Dutch Wonderland had that feature for little water slides.


Not all parks. When we went to Busch Gardens, it was a teenager making judgement calls on who would go in which raft.
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Anonymous wrote:I suspect riders stand on a big scale before getting on. Even Dutch Wonderland had that feature for little water slides.


I saw a news report that said that there have been many people claiming that the scales at the top of the slide were not working the past 2 weeks.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I heard it reported on the radio that his dad is in the Kansas State Legislature. Can you say "lawsuit"!


It was elected official day at the park, elected officials were allowed in the park at no cost. Why does this translate into a lawsuit?


Please--there will probably be a lawsuit b/c a kid died a horrible death regardless of parents' professions.


Not much good in Kansas. They have a $250,000 cap on non-economic damages.

The slide was built in Kansas because Kansas is the only state that didn't have regulations to prohibit it.

I know it's wrong, because a child just died, but I wonder how the father feels about tort reform and deregulation of industry now?


Yes, it's wrong, you creep.


Call it creepy, but there's one political party hellbent on dismantling regulations and this is precisely the sort of tragedy they're meant to prevent.


There is a time and place for politics. This is not that time. Please --please -- seek therapy.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there a link to the assertion that lack of regulation is what allowed this park to build this ride in Kansas?


Slate had an article today
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Anonymous wrote:I really don't understand how netting (at 65+ mph) would be a "safety" item. Anything at that speed is dangerous.


That was my thought, too. It's hard to believe none of the engineers could foresee what would happen if someone hit the net.


I hate to write this, but since you've chosen to read this far into the thread. . . Some have said that he was decapitated by the netting or the metal framing for the netting. There was blood pooled in the water at the the bottom of the track.
I've read a few articles on this and none of them and none of the witnesses mentioned that. It's possible that it's just not being reported at this point but all of them said he was laying on they ground and they saw him laying there when the paramedics pulle a white sheet over him. Seems like if he were decapitated they wouldn't have necessarily known it was a boy and the witness statements might have been different. But in definitely not an expert on any of this.


No one tried to revive him as it was apparent that he was dead. One of the women in his raft had blood on her face.


The women had facial injuries.,
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Hmmmmmm


Comment from this USA Today 'article' in 2014.
They keep calling the guy who designed this an 'inventor' and 'creator' but I can't find any credentials that say he should be designing something like this except that his family has money. Rafts were flying off all over the place?
No self respecting engineers would have built something like that. None.
In the least this guy should have been smart enough to hire a team of actual engineers to advise him through every step of the process.
That cannot have happened.
I mean - it says that the 'mesh' was to keep rafts from flying off the ride- but when real people are in it a flying human head hits the mesh netting.
It's just astoundingly stupid reasoning.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2014/06/26/verruckt-worlds-tallest-water-slide-exclusive-ride-video/11421473/

This is a comment from 'Reagan Hackelman' at the end of the article.

Shame on USA TODAY for trying to pass this off as journalism. "Special to USAToday..." doesn't cut it. This needs to be clearly marked as an advertisement.

I truly hope no one gets hurt on this ride, but when they do, their lawyer is gonna love this quote.

"It's dangerous, but it's a safe dangerous now."
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Anonymous wrote:Hmmmmmm


Comment from this USA Today 'article' in 2014.
They keep calling the guy who designed this an 'inventor' and 'creator' but I can't find any credentials that say he should be designing something like this except that his family has money. Rafts were flying off all over the place?
No self respecting engineers would have built something like that. None.
In the least this guy should have been smart enough to hire a team of actual engineers to advise him through every step of the process.
That cannot have happened.
I mean - it says that the 'mesh' was to keep rafts from flying off the ride- but when real people are in it a flying human head hits the mesh netting.
It's just astoundingly stupid reasoning.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2014/06/26/verruckt-worlds-tallest-water-slide-exclusive-ride-video/11421473/

This is a comment from 'Reagan Hackelman' at the end of the article.

Shame on USA TODAY for trying to pass this off as journalism. "Special to USAToday..." doesn't cut it. This needs to be clearly marked as an advertisement.

I truly hope no one gets hurt on this ride, but when they do, their lawyer is gonna love this quote.

"It's dangerous, but it's a safe dangerous now."


Velcro straps also burns me up.
So, you're going 65 mph plus and you're strapped in with Velcro.
Velcro? Not a seat belt with a click lock or a lap bar but Velcro.

I don't feel any need to visit Kansas anytime soon if this is the best they have to offer.
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The main "engineer" / designer had only a degree in biology.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/how-do-you-build-worlds-tallest-waterslide-180952069/
This is so sad. They consulted engineers but basically built this themselves with trial and error.
They built a death trap. That poor family....
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