Let's start a charter middle school

[Anonymous]

You two are talking past each other.

One person is referring to the launch of an existing school, which began on a Listserv.

The other is referring to the failed launch of the French Green Bean school.

Capisce?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look up "Haricorts Verts" on DCUM to see how that turned out.

Yep, that was very serious too..

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look up "Haricorts Verts" on DCUM to see how that turned out.

Otoh, look up Cap City and see how that turned out. Or Two Rivers. Or Yu Ying. Or Mundo Verde.

Oh, did they start out by someone suggesting on DCUM that it would be great to all get together to start a school?

I didn't think so.

No, you didn't think at all. It was a neighborhood listserv, actually. The founders didn't even know each other to begin with, so - it was quite a lot like DCUM except a smaller pool of readers/participants.

Keep being you.

It was not a neighborhood Listserv. It was people on DCUM who got together on a Listserv and didn't even get to the point where they could meet because it broke down so quickly. I know because I was one of the wide-eyes optimistic people who relied and wanted to do it. You need a lot more than an idea to create a charter school.

No you don't. Really, it's not a secret that this specific example is one of the most sought-after schools in the District, and yes, it started on a neighborhood listserv. Pipe down, since you obviously don't know what you're bloviating about.

It was not a neighborhood Listserv. It was a Listserv started by the people on te DCUM threadZ continuing to treat that it was a neighborhood Listserv will not make it so.

You have terrible reading comprehension. She's talking about Two Rivers (successful; started on MOTH); not HV.

[Anonymous]

Good god, you women will split hairs and dance on the heads of pins about nothing and minor semantics for hours.

It is painfully obvious you all work in government and should not be organizing piss ups in breweries, let alone schools.

For serious: Organizing a middle school? I would rather see concerted effort made towards sending kids to the ones we have. It's only three years. Or, for those of us with Montessori kids and no Montessori feeder... two.

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Anonymous wrote:Look up "Haricorts Verts" on DCUM to see how that turned out.

Otoh, look up Cap City and see how that turned out. Or Two Rivers. Or Yu Ying. Or Mundo Verde.

Oh, did they start out by someone suggesting on DCUM that it would be great to all get together to start a school?

I didn't think so.

No, you didn't think at all. It was a neighborhood listserv, actually. The founders didn't even know each other to begin with, so - it was quite a lot like DCUM except a smaller pool of readers/participants.

Keep being you.

It was not a neighborhood Listserv. It was people on DCUM who got together on a Listserv and didn't even get to the point where they could meet because it broke down so quickly. I know because I was one of the wide-eyes optimistic people who relied and wanted to do it. You need a lot more than an idea to create a charter school.

No you don't. Really, it's not a secret that this specific example is one of the most sought-after schools in the District, and yes, it started on a neighborhood listserv. Pipe down, since you obviously don't know what you're bloviating about.

It was not a neighborhood Listserv. It was a Listserv started by the people on te DCUM threadZ continuing to treat that it was a neighborhood Listserv will not make it so.

Again, for the confused, at least one highly regarded charter school, one of the best in the city, came about because of a small group that formed on a neighborhood listserv. Much smaller than DCUM, and NO, NOT DCUM. DCUM had nothing to do with it. Shut up with the DCUM talk, you really don't know whst you are talking about.

So, yes, it can be done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You didn't get the memo, PP. The purpose of public education -- especially charter school -- is to close the achievement gap.

The purpose of public education is to educate students -- all students. Closing the achievement gap is an ideal for SOME charter schools.

The original intent for all charter schools in the District of Columbia was to close the achievement gap. Now, it's just a free-fall for all who choose to venture into the PCS arena.

[Anonymous]

The original intent for all charter schools in the District of Columbia was to close the achievement gap. Now, it's just a free-fall for all who choose to venture into the PCS arena.

And a way to self-segregate. It's problematic.

Which is really why the Maria Montessori Machiavelli School of Misspent Monies is an excellent idea.

In seventh grade, we will drop all the kids off at random places on the beltway, armed with pocket knives, one live chicken each, and a bicycle. (DCPS has them, so why can't we?) Each child who makes it home (or at least to an exit ramp), will be promoted to compete in a Battle Royale on the National Mall.

Only having one child left for eighth grade will make all of this economically feasible.

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The original intent for all charter schools in the District of Columbia was to close the achievement gap. Now, it's just a free-fall for all who choose to venture into the PCS arena.

And a way to self-segregate. It's problematic.

Which is really why the Maria Montessori Machiavelli School of Misspent Monies is an excellent idea.

In seventh grade, we will drop all the kids off at random places on the beltway, armed with pocket knives, one live chicken each, and a bicycle. (DCPS has them, so why can't we?) Each child who makes it home (or at least to an exit ramp), will be promoted to compete in a Battle Royale on the National Mall.

Only having one child left for eighth grade will make all of this economically feasible.

Right, but segregation by real estate values is so much better.

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The original intent for all charter schools in the District of Columbia was to close the achievement gap. Now, it's just a free-fall for all who choose to venture into the PCS arena.


And a way to self-segregate. It's problematic.

Which is really why the Maria Montessori Machiavelli School of Misspent Monies is an excellent idea.

In seventh grade, we will drop all the kids off at random places on the beltway, armed with pocket knives, one live chicken each, and a bicycle. (DCPS has them, so why can't we?) Each child who makes it home (or at least to an exit ramp), will be promoted to compete in a Battle Royale on the National Mall.

Only having one child left for eighth grade will make all of this economically feasible.


Right, but segregation by real estate values is so much better.

Your child, congenitally lacking humor, would quickly be abandoned to die by her peers in the Battle Royale segment, in favor of saving the funnier children first because they make much better television.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You didn't get the memo, PP. The purpose of public education -- especially charter school -- is to close the achievement gap.

The purpose of public education is to educate students -- all students. Closing the achievement gap is an ideal for SOME charter schools.

The original intent for all charter schools in the District of Columbia was to close the achievement gap. Now, it's just a free-fall for all who choose to venture into the PCS arena.

1. No, there were multiple intended benefits, of which closing the achievement gap was one.

2. No, it's not a free-for-all. It's been well-documented (even by the left-oriented Washington Post) that in Washington DC, charters do a superior job of educating lower-income and minority students in all subjects tested.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You didn't get the memo, PP. The purpose of public education -- especially charter school -- is to close the achievement gap.

The purpose of public education is to educate students -- all students. Closing the achievement gap is an ideal for SOME charter schools.

The original intent for all charter schools in the District of Columbia was to close the achievement gap. Now, it's just a free-fall for all who choose to venture into the PCS arena.

1. No, there were multiple intended benefits, of which closing the achievement gap was one.

2. No, it's not a free-for-all. It's been well-documented (even by the left-oriented Washington Post) that in Washington DC, charters do a superior job of educating lower-income and minority students in all subjects tested.

Haha. The Post editorial board (which is now divorced from Pearson but I believe has largely the same composition) includes the biggest public-school bashers and Rhee-boosters in the country. JoAnne Armao never met an inner city school she didn't want to charterize.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You didn't get the memo, PP. The purpose of public education -- especially charter school -- is to close the achievement gap.

The purpose of public education is to educate students -- all students. Closing the achievement gap is an ideal for SOME charter schools.

The original intent for all charter schools in the District of Columbia was to close the achievement gap. Now, it's just a free-fall for all who choose to venture into the PCS arena.

1. No, there were multiple intended benefits, of which closing the achievement gap was one.

2. No, it's not a free-for-all. It's been well-documented (even by the left-oriented Washington Post) that in Washington DC, charters do a superior job of educating lower-income and minority students in all subjects tested.

Haha. The Post editorial board (which is now divorced from Pearson but I believe has largely the same composition) includes the biggest public-school bashers and Rhee-boosters in the country. JoAnne Armao never met an inner city school she didn't want to charterize.

They didn't get to design the tests, administer them, or doctor the data. The results speak for themselves. DC charters do their job better than DCPS. They have done for years, and continue to. They do it with less money, largely becaue they're unencumbered by the dysfunction that touches every single aspect of DC Government. There's a lesson in there (hint: DC politicans, cronyism, and corruption...)