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Why do DCUMs always need to tell you that her child has a high IQ?
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What you call 2e kids -- good name -- would seem to be different. Innate lack of self control is different from "the teacher doesn't like my kid challenging her in class and that's the school's problem not my kid's problem" (which I've actually seen). |
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It does not bother me a BIT to read about an early reader, an early talker, an early walker, a test score, private school acceptance, what size jeans they wear, how much they make... who cares? I don't have any idea who you people are! Maybe it would bug me if it was my neighbor who always bragged, but here? 3/4 of the time it's just stated matter-of-factly in the course of conversation anyway (at least the kids-related ones are -- the adult ones are usually directly in response to a thread asking that specific question).
And I cannot believe that someone actually posted this:
Seriously? This place is called DCUrban MOMS. It's about parenting! The person who posted the Eleanor Roosevelt quote was right on. No one can make you feel inferior without your consent. It hurts my feelings when people say that all SAHMs are boring leeches because that is such unnecessary targeted meanness, but it doesn't bother me one iota to hear about other people's children doing well. Why would it? |
Anonymous
You described my nephew exactly. Profoundly gifted and serious ADHD, along with other learning disabilities. His parents would have sent him to Lab if they could have done it, but they felt it was financially out of reach and never looked into aid. As to the poster who said MIT will not accept arrogant behavior, HA! Have you ever set foot on campus? It is awash in arrogance (and nerdiness in some places). This is not related to my prior point, but that just cracked me up. |
Anonymous
And what about "my kid doesn't like the teacher NOT challenging her in class"? Lack of appropriate challenge can certainly lead to inappropriate behavior in some kids. Unless you know the child inside and out, it might be hard for you to know whether the acting out is a sign of a bratty kid or a bored kid or a twice exceptional kid. |
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Not true. Inappropriate behavior is due to messed up kids. There are TONS of intellegent kids that can sit still and behave even if the class work is below them. I think that there is a study that proves it. |
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For the most part I agree. However, it must be said that every now and then a real lulu shows up - someone whose priorities or perceptions seem really OFF. You starting thinking "this person needs a REALITY CHECK more than an echo chamber..." |
Anonymous
This is total BS. FWIW, I have colleagues at MIT, and I've also been to the place for work. In fact I have colleagues who teach in universities across the country, and have attended a few of the best myself. These professors are all lovely people. And I guarantee that none of them wants to put up with mouthiness from your arrogant kid. Because guess what -- professors, especially MIT professors, have egos too. They are not doormats waiting for your arrogant kid to walk all over them. Please, do your kids - and your kids' teachers - a favor and teach them to be respectful of everyone, including teachers of *merely* average intelligence. You wouldn't let them insult mentally challenged kids, would you? And you will be grateful when they are finally employed and know how to treat their bosses with deference, because otherwise they won't be employable. |
Anonymous
So what's your clinical definition of "messed up"? Undisciplined? Bratty? Ornery? Can you fathom the possibility that some kids are wired differently and that just because you can't see the difference it's not there? |
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I'm not the poster you're responding to, but I believe she's saying that kids with very high intelligence and otherwise normal social skills should be expected to sit still in class and show respect for the teacher. No matter how boring the class. I agree with her, and I also know a kid who's something called "profoundly gifted" who does this. Worse, you seem to be saying that even bad behavior that goes beyond being fidgety is just par for the course. I certainly hope your kid hasn't learned that mom will excuse rude behavior to teachers because he/she's "so smart". Any parent who excuses their kid's brattiness/orneriness/lack of discipline as being down to "he/she is too intelligent" is enabling bad behavior. It's a parent's job to teach kids how to respect EVERYBODY. Not just teachers/other kids who are as smart as they are. There aren't different rules for different people. Indeed, you wouldn't let your kid talk down to a mentally challenged person. Please, for their own future happiness and yours, rethink this. |
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I would never excuse my child's behavior because of his or her level of intelligence. But nor would I assume that just because a child is "so smart" he or she must also be skilled at dealing with frustration or boredom--those can be very different skill sets.
And while I agree that kids need to learn to be polite, to everyone, I think that people can be complacent about expecting highly gifted kids to sit around in boring classes. I'd want my child to be polite to the teacher and all the other kids, but I'd also wouldn't be complacent about the fact that my child wasn't being challenged. |
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We're arguing about whether it's OK to put bad behavior down to intelligence -- we aren't arguing about whether the school system has enough money to challenge your kid or mine, which is completely different and belongs in another thread.
I agree that sitting still and being polite are a different skill set. And a skill set that challenges all kinds of kids, through the whole range of intelligence levels. I say that parents need to help the kids behave well in *every* situation, no matter what the school system can afford to throw at them, because they will be faced with every possible situation in the future. All of us have learned to daydream in boring meetings or conferences, plan what we're doing next, or whatever. It's a necessary skill, and PARTICULARLY necessary if you think everybody around you is an idiot. If you can't manage to show politeness to peers, teachers and bosses, then you will be lost in your career and social relationships. |
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| "their" kids, not "the" kids. |
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| Why should highly gifted kids get a pass on sitting still and fidgetting, when average but energetic, or struggling kids, don't? |