Contingency Plans in FCCPS for Mt. Daniel?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We get it PP. You live in the neighborhood and you're a NIMBY. How many times have you posted in this thread? 15?

Why do you assume there is one poster objecting to the expansion? I've voice opposition and think that Fairfax County shouldn't approve the expansion, and I wasn't the poster you are referring to. FCC is an independent jurisdiction. If it wants to expand its schools, it should do it in its jurisdiction. The whole NIMBY label is ridiculous in this context. One county's residents shouldn't have to make sacrifices that benefit another county. There are no benefit to Fairfax County or its residents, only downsides. Fairfax County is accountable to its residents, not to FCC residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We get it PP. You live in the neighborhood and you're a NIMBY. How many times have you posted in this thread? 15?

Why do you assume there is one poster objecting to the expansion? I've voice opposition and think that Fairfax County shouldn't approve the expansion, and I wasn't the poster you are referring to. FCC is an independent jurisdiction. If it wants to expand its schools, it should do it in its jurisdiction. The whole NIMBY label is ridiculous in this context. One county's residents shouldn't have to make sacrifices that benefit another county. There are no benefit to Fairfax County or its residents, only downsides. Fairfax County is accountable to its residents, not to FCC residents.

+1000. The oldest trick in the DCUM playbook is to pretend there's only one poster who disagrees with you, no matter how much evidence to the contrary.

[Anonymous]

Virginia law allows counties/cities to own property outside of their jurisdictions. It is common for municipalities to own prisons, hospital, schools, etc. outside of their boundaries. Fairfax County is no exception, for example, the water authority owns property in Prince William county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Virginia law allows counties/cities to own property outside of their jurisdictions. It is common for municipalities to own prisons, hospital, schools, etc. outside of their boundaries. Fairfax County is no exception, for example, the water authority owns property in Prince William county.

It's not common around here, and there's no reason to cater to the whims of FCC residents just because they are too cheap to build their schools in their own town and don't want the traffic in their own neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Virginia law allows counties/cities to own property outside of their jurisdictions. It is common for municipalities to own prisons, hospital, schools, etc. outside of their boundaries. Fairfax County is no exception, for example, the water authority owns property in Prince William county.

No one said FCC wasn't allowed to own land in Fairfax County. FCC should be treated just like any other land owner in Fairfax County, and if Fairfax residents are on a whole adversely impacted, the answer to the expansion should be no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia law allows counties/cities to own property outside of their jurisdictions. It is common for municipalities to own prisons, hospital, schools, etc. outside of their boundaries. Fairfax County is no exception, for example, the water authority owns property in Prince William county.

It's not common around here, and there's no reason to cater to the whims of FCC residents just because they are too cheap to build their schools in their own town and don't want the traffic in their own neighborhoods.

Oak Street is made up of over half FCC residents- the issue of traffic affects ALL Oak Street residents, i.e., both FCC and FC citizens. Building a new elementary school is incredibly expensive, will take years, and the existing school can be renovated to accomplish short and long term goals (including providing ADA accessible accommodations to our special needs students and fire sprinkler systems, both of which the school currently lacks). The school is very conscious of the neighborhood impact and works with all parents and staff to minimize disruptions. Parents are reminded to carpool for class parties, and there is police presence that blocks the street for non-resident parking and a shuttle is provided during the larger (rare) school events like back-to-school night and twice-a-year community events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia law allows counties/cities to own property outside of their jurisdictions. It is common for municipalities to own prisons, hospital, schools, etc. outside of their boundaries. Fairfax County is no exception, for example, the water authority owns property in Prince William county.

It's not common around here, and there's no reason to cater to the whims of FCC residents just because they are too cheap to build their schools in their own town and don't want the traffic in their own neighborhoods.

Oak Street is made up of over half FCC residents- the issue of traffic affects ALL Oak Street residents, i.e., both FCC and FC citizens. Building a new elementary school is incredibly expensive, will take years, and the existing school can be renovated to accomplish short and long term goals (including providing ADA accessible accommodations to our special needs students and fire sprinkler systems, both of which the school currently lacks). The school is very conscious of the neighborhood impact and works with all parents and staff to minimize disruptions. Parents are reminded to carpool for class parties, and there is police presence that blocks the street for non-resident parking and a shuttle is provided during the larger (rare) school events like back-to-school night and twice-a-year community events.

If it's such a good neighbor, they ought to give the local kids who live in FC the option to attend. This is just more propaganda from FCC residents who don't want to build FCCPS schools in FCC, but instead locate their schools where the traffic snafus will inconvenience others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia law allows counties/cities to own property outside of their jurisdictions. It is common for municipalities to own prisons, hospital, schools, etc. outside of their boundaries. Fairfax County is no exception, for example, the water authority owns property in Prince William county.

It's not common around here, and there's no reason to cater to the whims of FCC residents just because they are too cheap to build their schools in their own town and don't want the traffic in their own neighborhoods.

Oak Street is made up of over half FCC residents- the issue of traffic affects ALL Oak Street residents, i.e., both FCC and FC citizens. Building a new elementary school is incredibly expensive, will take years, and the existing school can be renovated to accomplish short and long term goals (including providing ADA accessible accommodations to our special needs students and fire sprinkler systems, both of which the school currently lacks). The school is very conscious of the neighborhood impact and works with all parents and staff to minimize disruptions. Parents are reminded to carpool for class parties, and there is police presence that blocks the street for non-resident parking and a shuttle is provided during the larger (rare) school events like back-to-school night and twice-a-year community events.

If it's such a good neighbor, they ought to give the local kids who live in FC the option to attend. This is just more propaganda from FCC residents who don't want to build FCCPS schools in FCC, but instead locate their schools where the traffic snafus will inconvenience others.

I am a FCC resident and MD parents. I agree that the Oak St Fairfax County residents should have the option to attend Mount Daniel. Would that interest those residents if they wouldn't necessarily have rights to move up the pyramid? Regardless, it seems fair to offer the option to the County residents on the street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia law allows counties/cities to own property outside of their jurisdictions. It is common for municipalities to own prisons, hospital, schools, etc. outside of their boundaries. Fairfax County is no exception, for example, the water authority owns property in Prince William county.

It's not common around here, and there's no reason to cater to the whims of FCC residents just because they are too cheap to build their schools in their own town and don't want the traffic in their own neighborhoods.

Oak Street is made up of over half FCC residents- the issue of traffic affects ALL Oak Street residents, i.e., both FCC and FC citizens. Building a new elementary school is incredibly expensive, will take years, and the existing school can be renovated to accomplish short and long term goals (including providing ADA accessible accommodations to our special needs students and fire sprinkler systems, both of which the school currently lacks). The school is very conscious of the neighborhood impact and works with all parents and staff to minimize disruptions. Parents are reminded to carpool for class parties, and there is police presence that blocks the street for non-resident parking and a shuttle is provided during the larger (rare) school events like back-to-school night and twice-a-year community events.

If it's such a good neighbor, they ought to give the local kids who live in FC the option to attend. This is just more propaganda from FCC residents who don't want to build FCCPS schools in FCC, but instead locate their schools where the traffic snafus will inconvenience others.

Utter nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia law allows counties/cities to own property outside of their jurisdictions. It is common for municipalities to own prisons, hospital, schools, etc. outside of their boundaries. Fairfax County is no exception, for example, the water authority owns property in Prince William county.

It's not common around here, and there's no reason to cater to the whims of FCC residents just because they are too cheap to build their schools in their own town and don't want the traffic in their own neighborhoods.

Oak Street is made up of over half FCC residents- the issue of traffic affects ALL Oak Street residents, i.e., both FCC and FC citilzens. Building a new elementary school is incredibly expensive, will take years, and the existing school can be renovated to accomplish short and long term goals (including providing ADA accessible accommodations to our special needs students and fire sprinkler systems, both of which the school currently lacks). The school is very conscious of the neighborhood impact and works with all parents and staff to minimize disruptions. Parents are reminded to carpool for class parties, and there is police presence that blocks the street for non-resident parking and a shuttle is provided during the larger (rare) school events like back-to-school night and twice-a-year community events.

If it's such a good neighbor, they ought to give the local kids who live in FC the option to attend. This is just more propaganda from FCC residents who don't want to build FCCPS schools in FCC, but instead locate their schools where the traffic snafus will inconvenience others.

Utter nonsense.

FCC residents don't care about anything other than their own tax bill and anyone other than themselves. This massive expansion should NOT be approved.

[Anonymous]

Welcome to the North Oak Street Trailer Park.
or the McLean Citizens Association Popup Village.

Seriously? Could they really put trailers in?

[Anonymous]

I think most FCC residents are not happy with this situation. I also don't know anyone who prefers to keep Mt Daniel at its current site. I don't know why the City couldn't find anywhere else to put the school (or why we couldn't just put all of the grades back at TJ). No one likes the parking or traffic on N Oak, not even those of us with kids at the school. Comments about FCC residents being cocky or selfish really only apply to FCC residents who are in power and make these decisions--the vast majority of residents are totally in the dark about all of this.

[Anonymous]

So the original question was about a contingency plan ...
It looks like there was one - the status quo
http://fcnp.com/2015/07/15/fairfax-co-planning-commission-defers-on-f-c-plan-for-mt-daniel/

[Anonymous]

Such a biased article.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the original question was about a contingency plan ...
It looks like there was one - the status quo
http://fcnp.com/2015/07/15/fairfax-co-planning-commission-defers-on-f-c-plan-for-mt-daniel/

Really poorly written article with a lot of editorializing, but the bottom line is that this expansion has, at a minimum, been delayed.