Contingency Plans in FCCPS for Mt. Daniel?

[Anonymous]

Schools always win in these sorts of debates. The incremental impact to the neighborhood is likely to be insignificant.

[Anonymous]

So ... how'd it go?

[Anonymous]

Nothing?

[Anonymous]

The Commission deferred a final vote until July 15th and requested more information regarding enrollment expected and the size of the project. Some Commissioners appeared to be under the incorrect impression the Mount Daniel Expansion Plan creates a new wing which triples the building's height; from a one-story to three-story building. The plan actually will add just one story to that side of the building. In fact, the new building will only be 14 feet higher than the current height of the east wing. If the review is approved, construction will be begin immediately. If its not approved, FCC will immediately appeal to the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Commission deferred a final vote until July 15th and requested more information regarding enrollment expected and the size of the project. Some Commissioners appeared to be under the incorrect impression the Mount Daniel Expansion Plan creates a new wing which triples the building's height; from a one-story to three-story building. The plan actually will add just one story to that side of the building. In fact, the new building will only be 14 feet higher than the current height of the east wing. If the review is approved, construction will be begin immediately. If its not approved, FCC will immediately appeal to the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors.

What was the enrollment at Mt. Daniel this past year and what is the maximum enrollment allowed if the expansion were approved?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Commission deferred a final vote until July 15th and requested more information regarding enrollment expected and the size of the project. Some Commissioners appeared to be under the incorrect impression the Mount Daniel Expansion Plan creates a new wing which triples the building's height; from a one-story to three-story building. The plan actually will add just one story to that side of the building. In fact, the new building will only be 14 feet higher than the current height of the east wing. If the review is approved, construction will be begin immediately. If its not approved, FCC will immediately appeal to the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors.

What was the enrollment at Mt. Daniel this past year and what is the maximum enrollment allowed if the expansion were approved?

This is a good question. More important than whether it's a two versus three story building.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Commission deferred a final vote until July 15th and requested more information regarding enrollment expected and the size of the project. Some Commissioners appeared to be under the incorrect impression the Mount Daniel Expansion Plan creates a new wing which triples the building's height; from a one-story to three-story building. The plan actually will add just one story to that side of the building. In fact, the new building will only be 14 feet higher than the current height of the east wing. If the review is approved, construction will be begin immediately. If its not approved, FCC will immediately appeal to the Fairfax County Board of Supervisors.

What was the enrollment at Mt. Daniel this past year and what is the maximum enrollment allowed if the expansion were approved?

This is a good question. More important than whether it's a two versus three story building.

Presumably the additional traffic would correlate more closely with the proposed increase in students than with the building heights.

[Anonymous]

From the application provided as part of the agenda by FCCPS: Accommodation - The proposed addition will increase the school capacity from
336 to 792 students. FCCSB proposes to continue to house Grades K and 1 and
an inclusive special education program at Mt. Daniel, however other grades may
be added to the facility in the future. FCCSB states that full capacity is not
expected before the year 2040.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From the application provided as part of the agenda by FCCPS: Accommodation - The proposed addition will increase the school capacity from
336 to 792 students. FCCSB proposes to continue to house Grades K and 1 and
an inclusive special education program at Mt. Daniel, however other grades may
be added to the facility in the future. FCCSB states that full capacity is not
expected before the year 2040.

I'm this PP of this post. I'm also a FCC resident who is confused by this statement, because we have all been told that Grade 2 will be housed here starting in Fall of 2016....

[Anonymous]

because we have all been told that Grade 2 will be housed here starting in Fall of 2016....

Welcome to the North Oak Street Trailer Park.
or the McLean Citizens Association Popup Village.

Don't know about you, but I'd rather have to look at a beautiful new building, with twice the parking, than a few sets of those white behemoths they've added at their other elementary school.
The parking is really a plus for my guys. This year it's becoming difficult to find a parking spot on the weekends there when we head to the pool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

because we have all been told that Grade 2 will be housed here starting in Fall of 2016....

Welcome to the North Oak Street Trailer Park.
or the McLean Citizens Association Popup Village.

Don't know about you, but I'd rather have to look at a beautiful new building, with twice the parking, than a few sets of those white behemoths they've added at their other elementary school.
The parking is really a plus for my guys. This year it's becoming difficult to find a parking spot on the weekends there when we head to the pool.

What a mess. Why can't FCCPS just build a school in FCC?

[Anonymous]

FCC resident here. I'm getting the impression that most of the posters here have never seen Oak street or the Mt. Daniel campus. It is nine acres at the top of a hill on North Oak street. Approximately half of the homes at the beginning of this short street are in FCC, and the other half nearest the school (about ten to fifteen houses) are in Fairfax County. These are the only homes impacted by the school. The back end of the school backs up to a steep wooded hill, there is no access from the street on the other side of the wooded area (highland), and a good portion of the area is taken up by a pool, only utilized during the summer months. The west end/playground end of the school abuts a wooded ravine.

It is an early elementary school, there are few evening activities, no sports, no lights or noise a night, etc. The addition is is on the same footprint, and will add a second story to one portion of the school, to house one additional grade (2nd).

The alternative which some are suggesting, that FCC sell the land, would result in dozens of new houses and townhouses on the sight. I know some of the residents on this street, both in FCC and Fairfax, and they prefer that the school remainrtather than go through the years of construction, and additional traffic, that sale of the land would bring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCC resident here. I'm getting the impression that most of the posters here have never seen Oak street or the Mt. Daniel campus. It is nine acres at the top of a hill on North Oak street. Approximately half of the homes at the beginning of this short street are in FCC, and the other half nearest the school (about ten to fifteen houses) are in Fairfax County. These are the only homes impacted by the school. The back end of the school backs up to a steep wooded hill, there is no access from the street on the other side of the wooded area (highland), and a good portion of the area is taken up by a pool, only utilized during the summer months. The west end/playground end of the school abuts a wooded ravine.

It is an early elementary school, there are few evening activities, no sports, no lights or noise a night, etc. The addition is is on the same footprint, and will add a second story to one portion of the school, to house one additional grade (2nd).

The alternative which some are suggesting, that FCC sell the land, would result in dozens of new houses and townhouses on the sight. I know some of the residents on this street, both in FCC and Fairfax, and they prefer that the school remainrtather than go through the years of construction, and additional traffic, that sale of the land would bring.

So says the FCC resident who doesn't want to pay for a FCCPS school in FCC.

N. Oak is a narrow, residential street that dead ends at Mt. Daniel, so there is but one way in and out of the "campus." Expanding the school's footprint and enrollment as proposed will greatly increase the traffic on several streets in Fairfax County. It will depress home values and the county gets nothing in return because it's a tax-exempt property. The better solution would be to raze the school, build some tax-generating properties, and connect Oak to both Highland and Woodland to relieve congestion.

The fact that the school may not have as many "specials" as a high school doesn't change the fact that FCCPS wants to increase the traffic in the county neighborhood on a DAILY basis while school is in session. And they want to do it because they are too cheap to build a school in FCC and don't want to inconvenience their own residents when they can disrupt a county neighborhood instead.

[Anonymous]

We get it PP. You live in the neighborhood and you're a NIMBY. How many times have you posted in this thread? 15?

[Anonymous]

Is there any possible way for FCC to annex that corner where Mt. Daniel sits? It is ridiculous that they have a school outside their jurisdiction.

They need to find space within their own borders for their schools.