PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

There are lots of ways you can give out information that compromises a test, without posting the exact questions. At our school, for example, if you take a test first period, and then tell someone in a later class "The vocab test was all multiple choice, you didn't have to be able to spell the words", that's an honor code violation. If you tell them "The writing prompt was about X short story." That's a violation.

Having said that, I can't find any articles about this that reference the DOE, so maybe you've seen something I haven't. Can you post a link?

Ha! Suckers. We did this all the time at school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

There are lots of ways you can give out information that compromises a test, without posting the exact questions. At our school, for example, if you take a test first period, and then tell someone in a later class "The vocab test was all multiple choice, you didn't have to be able to spell the words", that's an honor code violation. If you tell them "The writing prompt was about X short story." That's a violation.

Having said that, I can't find any articles about this that reference the DOE, so maybe you've seen something I haven't. Can you post a link?

Ha! Suckers. We did this all the time at school.

Well, yeah, so do the kids at my school. But they hide it from the teachers, because they know it's a violation. This kid should have known it was a violation too, but he put it out on public media in a searchable format.

Frankly, if my kid did this, I'd want to see them punished so they'd think before posting next time. I'm not saying I'd want my kid expelled, I think that's a major overstatement, but I think that detention or a community service penalty is an appropriate response, and one that would make the kid think twice before he encounters more serious consequences for not thinking before posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

There are lots of ways you can give out information that compromises a test, without posting the exact questions. At our school, for example, if you take a test first period, and then tell someone in a later class "The vocab test was all multiple choice, you didn't have to be able to spell the words", that's an honor code violation. If you tell them "The writing prompt was about X short story." That's a violation.

Having said that, I can't find any articles about this that reference the DOE, so maybe you've seen something I haven't. Can you post a link?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/03/14/pearson-monitoring-social-media-for-security-breaches-during-parcc-testing/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yet another area where children can do things online and get in big trouble for it.

Yet another reason for parents to opt their kids out. The test does not benefit the kid and could be a potential headache for both the kid and the parents.

Students and families benefit by knowing if students are on track for mastery of the material. It's always been the case that some teachers give out easy A's like they were candy, whereas some are unusually harsh graders, and everywhere in between - this is a separate, independent assessment of how students are doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

There are lots of ways you can give out information that compromises a test, without posting the exact questions. At our school, for example, if you take a test first period, and then tell someone in a later class "The vocab test was all multiple choice, you didn't have to be able to spell the words", that's an honor code violation. If you tell them "The writing prompt was about X short story." That's a violation.

Having said that, I can't find any articles about this that reference the DOE, so maybe you've seen something I haven't. Can you post a link?

Ha! Suckers. We did this all the time at school.

Well, yeah, so do the kids at my school. But they hide it from the teachers, because they know it's a violation. This kid should have known it was a violation too, but he put it out on public media in a searchable format.

Frankly, if my kid did this, I'd want to see them punished so they'd think before posting next time. I'm not saying I'd want my kid expelled, I think that's a major overstatement, but I think that detention or a community service penalty is an appropriate response, and one that would make the kid think twice before he encounters more serious consequences for not thinking before posting.

What a load of BS. I think you might want to see the actual content of the Twitter post before you jump on the Pearson bandwagon.

Pearson deserves every bad thing coming to it. I only hope other kids use this as an inspiration!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yet another area where children can do things online and get in big trouble for it.

Yet another reason for parents to opt their kids out. The test does not benefit the kid and could be a potential headache for both the kid and the parents.

Students and families benefit by knowing if students are on track for mastery of the material. It's always been the case that some teachers give out easy A's like they were candy, whereas some are unusually harsh graders, and everywhere in between - this is a separate, independent assessment of how students are doing.

Ha ha ha! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

There are lots of ways you can give out information that compromises a test, without posting the exact questions. At our school, for example, if you take a test first period, and then tell someone in a later class "The vocab test was all multiple choice, you didn't have to be able to spell the words", that's an honor code violation. If you tell them "The writing prompt was about X short story." That's a violation.

Having said that, I can't find any articles about this that reference the DOE, so maybe you've seen something I haven't. Can you post a link?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/03/14/pearson-monitoring-social-media-for-security-breaches-during-parcc-testing/

I did that article. It references the NJDOE, not THE DOE. Big difference.

It also doesn't say that PARCC asked for the students to be "punished".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yet another area where children can do things online and get in big trouble for it.

Yet another reason for parents to opt their kids out. The test does not benefit the kid and could be a potential headache for both the kid and the parents.

Students and families benefit by knowing if students are on track for mastery of the material. It's always been the case that some teachers give out easy A's like they were candy, whereas some are unusually harsh graders, and everywhere in between - this is a separate, independent assessment of how students are doing.

Ha ha ha! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The big Pearson Bigfoot Chemtrail conspiracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yet another area where children can do things online and get in big trouble for it.

Yet another reason for parents to opt their kids out. The test does not benefit the kid and could be a potential headache for both the kid and the parents.

Students and families benefit by knowing if students are on track for mastery of the material. It's always been the case that some teachers give out easy A's like they were candy, whereas some are unusually harsh graders, and everywhere in between - this is a separate, independent assessment of how students are doing.

Ha ha ha! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The big Pearson Bigfoot Chemtrail conspiracy.

These tests give students a 1,2,3,4 months after they take it. Justify how that is worthwhile to the student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yet another area where children can do things online and get in big trouble for it.

Yet another reason for parents to opt their kids out. The test does not benefit the kid and could be a potential headache for both the kid and the parents.

Students and families benefit by knowing if students are on track for mastery of the material. It's always been the case that some teachers give out easy A's like they were candy, whereas some are unusually harsh graders, and everywhere in between - this is a separate, independent assessment of how students are doing.

Ha ha ha! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

The big Pearson Bigfoot Chemtrail conspiracy.

These tests give students a 1,2,3,4 months after they take it. Justify how that is worthwhile to the student.

If a student scores below basic, there's a lot more than 3 or 4 months worth of catch up and tutoring to do. You can't just go by grades - some schools have rampant grade inflation that is divorced from actual achievement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have to sign a nondisclosure agreement with Pearson to take this test? Oh hell no. My kid will not.

Is this true - kids must sign a non-disclosure to take the PARCC? Why would any kid sign that? The PARCC is absolutely meaningless to an individual child - it has no impact on grades, placement or advancement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

There's EVERYTHING wrong with Common Core. Most of us are working hard behind the scenes to dismantle it.

Behind which scenes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to sign a nondisclosure agreement with Pearson to take this test? Oh hell no. My kid will not.

Is this true - kids must sign a non-disclosure to take the PARCC? Why would any kid sign that? The PARCC is absolutely meaningless to an individual child - it has no impact on grades, placement or advancement.

My child is 8. Any agreement she signs is not legally valid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/03/14/pearson-monitoring-social-media-for-security-breaches-during-parcc-testing/

So Pearson is monitoring Twitter, and that's an invasion of privacy? Because there is an expectation of privacy for tweets? The things I learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have to sign a nondisclosure agreement with Pearson to take this test? Oh hell no. My kid will not.

Is this true - kids must sign a non-disclosure to take the PARCC? Why would any kid sign that? The PARCC is absolutely meaningless to an individual child - it has no impact on grades, placement or advancement.

I have not seen any such nondisclosure. Other teachers out there see one that students interact with?