PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

[Anonymous]

So I'm assuming those of you who complain about this will never have your kids take ACT/SAt or AP tests? During AP tests, kids are specifically instructed to NEVER talk about the multiple choice. And of course a student who put a photo of the test on social media would have their test nulled.

[Anonymous]

Wonder how many versions of the test Pearson created? Pearson: Fail.

[Anonymous]

So I'm assuming those of you who complain about this will never have your kids take ACT/SAt or AP tests? During AP tests, kids are specifically instructed to NEVER talk about the multiple choice. And of course a student who put a photo of the test on social media would have their test nulled.

I do recall that. My DS wouldn't tell me anything about he AP test except for one of the essay questions. That was when I realized that AP US History has serious problems with what history is.

[Anonymous]

So I'm assuming those of you who complain about this will never have your kids take ACT/SAt or AP tests? During AP tests, kids are specifically instructed to NEVER talk about the multiple choice. And of course a student who put a photo of the test on social media would have their test nulled.

true. However, it also helps the publishers sell the prep books.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I'm assuming those of you who complain about this will never have your kids take ACT/SAt or AP tests? During AP tests, kids are specifically instructed to NEVER talk about the multiple choice. And of course a student who put a photo of the test on social media would have their test nulled.

Two things: they talk about it all the time anyway. But the smart ones don't let it be recorded. This was less a problem in my day. I clearly remember chatting about the SAT questions all the way home with the boy I drove in with.

Second thing: The ACT, SAT, AP tests are voluntary. Different ballgame.

[Anonymous]

Two things: they talk about it all the time anyway. But the smart ones don't let it be recorded. This was less a problem in my day. I clearly remember chatting about the SAT questions all the way home with the boy I drove in with.

Second thing: The ACT, SAT, AP tests are voluntary. Different ballgame.

Different poster: third thing: PARCC tests are not limited to high school students. You can best be sure the teachers are paying close attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Two things: they talk about it all the time anyway. But the smart ones don't let it be recorded. This was less a problem in my day. I clearly remember chatting about the SAT questions all the way home with the boy I drove in with.

Second thing: The ACT, SAT, AP tests are voluntary. Different ballgame.

Different poster: third thing: PARCC tests are not limited to high school students. You can best be sure the teachers are paying close attention.

As an MCPS teacher who spent this past week giving my 4th graders the Parcc, I can tell you that the instructions that we must recite from a standard script when giving the test said absolutely nothing about barring the kids from talking about the test. In fact, later in the afternoon, a bunch of them WERE talking about the first question they faced on the second day of the math unit. It seems ridiculous to me that we would even ask them not to talk about it. If Pearson can't deal with a few questions being posted, perhaps the problem here is with Pearson, not the students.

I have a question for those who have posted about a "contract" between the students and Pearson that would preclude the students from discussing or sharing information about the test. Don't both parties to a contract usually benefit? How do the students benefit from this test, particularly since they won't see their results for several months.

[Anonymous]

If Pearson can't deal with a few questions being posted, perhaps the problem here is with Pearson, not the students.

I have a question for those who have posted about a "contract" between the students and Pearson that would preclude the students from discussing or sharing information about the test. Don't both parties to a contract usually benefit? How do the students benefit from this test, particularly since they won't see their results for several months.

+10000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Two things: they talk about it all the time anyway. But the smart ones don't let it be recorded. This was less a problem in my day. I clearly remember chatting about the SAT questions all the way home with the boy I drove in with.

Second thing: The ACT, SAT, AP tests are voluntary. Different ballgame.

Different poster: third thing: PARCC tests are not limited to high school students. You can best be sure the teachers are paying close attention.

Fourth thing: SAT and AP are for the child's own direct benefit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I'm assuming those of you who complain about this will never have your kids take ACT/SAt or AP tests? During AP tests, kids are specifically instructed to NEVER talk about the multiple choice. And of course a student who put a photo of the test on social media would have their test nulled.

Two things: they talk about it all the time anyway. But the smart ones don't let it be recorded. This was less a problem in my day. I clearly remember chatting about the SAT questions all the way home with the boy I drove in with.

Second thing: The ACT, SAT, AP tests are voluntary. Different ballgame.

Several states have now mandated all juniors to take the ACT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You have to believe that there is something inherently wrong with a test that has this high of stakes attached to it. If you have to sign a nondisclosure agreement with a profit seeking company when you are in public school at age 14, there's a problem.

I agree. A teacher fully understands the ramifications about disclosing content outside of the test, but sorry, there is no way to monitor kids. Posting question content on social media is Pearson's issue- not the kids. After all, the states have contracts with Pearson- the kids do not. By virtue of being a student in Md. they are merely pawns in a game.There is nothing illegal about their impressions, questions about content, etc. posted on social media.

Now, wouldn't it be great if kids' social media sites were monitored for the effects of bullying?

Hmmm..priorities are skewed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If Pearson can't deal with a few questions being posted, perhaps the problem here is with Pearson, not the students.

I have a question for those who have posted about a "contract" between the students and Pearson that would preclude the students from discussing or sharing information about the test. Don't both parties to a contract usually benefit? How do the students benefit from this test, particularly since they won't see their results for several months.

+10000

+100000000000000000
Bravo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You have to believe that there is something inherently wrong with a test that has this high of stakes attached to it. If you have to sign a nondisclosure agreement with a profit seeking company when you are in public school at age 14, there's a problem.

I agree. A teacher fully understands the ramifications about disclosing content outside of the test, but sorry, there is no way to monitor kids. Posting question content on social media is Pearson's issue- not the kids. After all, the states have contracts with Pearson- the kids do not. By virtue of being a student in Md. they are merely pawns in a game.There is nothing illegal about their impressions, questions about content, etc. posted on social media.

Now, wouldn't it be great if kids' social media sites were monitored for the effects of bullying?

Hmmm..priorities are skewed.

Pearson may be protecting their brand by these notifications, which is required under our skewed trademark laws. The schools will decide if anything needs to be done about or to the kids. Complaining online about the test is fine, posting test questions is not. Yet another area where children can do things online and get in big trouble for it.

[Anonymous]

Yet another area where children can do things online and get in big trouble for it.

Yet another reason for parents to opt their kids out. The test does not benefit the kid and could be a potential headache for both the kid and the parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

There are lots of ways you can give out information that compromises a test, without posting the exact questions. At our school, for example, if you take a test first period, and then tell someone in a later class "The vocab test was all multiple choice, you didn't have to be able to spell the words", that's an honor code violation. If you tell them "The writing prompt was about X short story." That's a violation.

Having said that, I can't find any articles about this that reference the DOE, so maybe you've seen something I haven't. Can you post a link?