PARCC monitoring student's social media, wants schools to "punish" them

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

Not really. Again: Students do not have freedom of speech. Are we clear on that?

What? Yes they do, when they're outside of school.

Inside school too.

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

Not really. Again: Students do not have freedom of speech. Are we clear on that?

What? Yes they do, when they're outside of school.

Inside school too.

Yes, they have limited freedom of speech at school and away from school. Not unfettered freedom of speech.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

Not really. Again: Students do not have freedom of speech. Are we clear on that?

What? Yes they do, when they're outside of school.

Inside school too.

Yes, they have limited freedom of speech at school and away from school. Not unfettered freedom of speech.

Nobody in our country has unfettered freedom of speech.

[Anonymous]

How exactly would they suggest punishing a 3rd grader? Expel them for talking about the PARCC test?

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Posting test questions is a serious breach - it compromises exams and increases the costs.

This kind of thing is not unusual for testing companies - I have seen a lot of different instances where social media and message forums for technical certification and professional licensure exams are monitored by the testing people to try and minimize breaches.

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I taught before NCLB. We caught a teacher on our staff cheating--and it didn't even count fro anything. She was from NY and was accustomed to giving Regents Tests--I guess they all cheated.

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If PARCC is giving the same test every year, we're in deep trouble. More reasons to get rid of nCLB and Common Core.

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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.tracx.com/case_studies/pearson/

Here is a link to the cached copy of the Pearson Case Study for their tracking. The original copy was taken down...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Posting test questions is a serious breach - it compromises exams and increases the costs.

This kind of thing is not unusual for testing companies - I have seen a lot of different instances where social media and message forums for technical certification and professional licensure exams are monitored by the testing people to try and minimize breaches.

We don't know if this girl actually posted a full question. The allegation is that she posted something AFTER the test ABOUT one of the questions. She absolutely has a constitutional right to post about a question in some cases, if it doesn't give away the answer. If this is a question of a purported contractual confidentiality agreement between the child and Pearson, I find that very disturbing.

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You mean how the pacific zone kids call the east coast kids for the questions/topics? Or the snow day kids call everyone?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

My understanding is that the student did not post the question. That the DOE called his school is concerning.

Not really. Again: Students do not have freedom of speech. Are we clear on that?

What? Yes they do, when they're outside of school.

No, not really. Kids post inappropriate things on social media that's school-related, there are consequences for them. See the way Arlington disciplined kids for tweeting about the snow closures.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

Of course they have freedom of speech.

No, they don't. See Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier.

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Anonymous wrote:I fail to see the problem with this. The kids should understand that what they post has consequences. It would be one thing if they hacked into private accounts or something, but if they're posting stuff publicly, they have to face the consequences. It's not like students have freedom or speech or anything.

Of course they have freedom of speech.

Freedom to cheat?

The poster said students have no freedom of speech - that's the point I'm disputing.

Your instinct is wrong. They do not have freedom of speech. The case law is very strong on that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If PARCC is giving the same test every year, we're in deep trouble. More reasons to get rid of nCLB and Common Core.

Don't be so ridiculous. There''s nothing wrong with Common Core. And No Child Left Behind evolved out of parental panic in the 1990s that kids were falling behind academically from kids in Asia, where, you know, standards and testing are common.

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Some smart kids should hack into the PARCC test, and post in online, and bring down Pearson.

It wouldn't take them down, they have a rotating item bank. But that said, it would increase costs because they would have to develop and vet new questions to replace the leaked ones that have to be removed.