Do you believe in Hell?

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Anonymous wrote:I won't get into what I believe or don't believe but until I get actual confirmation from someone who has gone to hell, I'll just say maybe there is a hell, maybe there isn't. That goes for heaven too.

One thing that's a fact, evil does roam this Earth and hopefully one day each and every one of them will find hell.

It may be comforting to think about evildoers getting their just deserts here on earth, but it doesn't always happen that way -- think of all the unsolved murders.

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Anonymous wrote:When you die, you just die. There's nothig afterwards. You don't get rewards for being good or punishment for being bad. Why do you all need to cling to an imagined afterlife to make your lives on earth meaningful? You all sound so sad.

Many people were taught to believe these things as children, and in many ways, our majority Christian society supports these beliefs, so it can be hard to look at them with adult eyes.

How above it all you are with your adult ways.

Sorry but people who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish away. It's a step above believing in Santa and his list of who's naughty and nice. Really, it's the same damn thing. Probably it's a step below believing in Santa because at least people grow out of that.

Aw, and we had such a nice break from this line of bigotry over the last week or so.

pp is blunt, but there is nothing bigoted about these remarks

BIGOT: def. a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Emphasis on unfairly. Reasons seem fair to me. Also I don't hate anyone or even necessarily dislike them. I think they are childish. You don't appear to like me particularly but that doesn't make you a bigot either.

But hey if it makes you feel better to think everyone who disagrees with you is a bigot, knock yourself out.

Of course the reasons seem fair to you. I thought atheists were supposed to appreciate others in a way that we religious people can't, or won't. Let me guess, there are some acceptable differences to embrace (dress, food, secular cultural traditions, skin color) and then there's religion.

"Humanists" often reveal themselves as more judgmental and dismissive than most believers.

You guessed wrong. Anyway, I'm curious what would be the acceptable non-bigoted opinion about someone belief in a flaming hell where all the bad people (and non-believers like me) burn for eternity? Childish seems to be pretty generous!

Oh, but I don't believe that about nonbelievers. A lot of posters here don't. But there you go with your broad brush. You were making encompassing negative assumptions based on one identifying element of a person (belief system). Hmmm. Sounds like a bigot to me.

No I wasn't. The belief is childish. What other "encompassing negative" things did I say? Did I say they beat their children and don't pay their taxes? Plenty of religious people are perfectly nice. And my "broad brush" view of hell is a popular one. But feel free to share your view that's supposedly so different.

"PEOPLE who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish" is what you said earlier. Along with them being a step above believing Santa maintains a Naughty and Nice list. Now you're saying the belief is childish, oh and there are plenty of "perfectly nice" religious people, too.

I will give you this, you did NOT say they beat their children. So there's that.

Let me clarify for your that obvi they sound childish to me WHEN expressing that belief. That should be obvious, but you seem slow. I'm not saying I can tell from a cashier's "childish" voice or something that they believe in hell. The comparison with Santa seems to really offend you, but it's a perfect analogy. These people are good and get rewards... These people are bad and get coal (maybe brought up from the fires of hell, lol!).

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Anonymous wrote:When you die, you just die. There's nothig afterwards. You don't get rewards for being good or punishment for being bad. Why do you all need to cling to an imagined afterlife to make your lives on earth meaningful? You all sound so sad.

Many people were taught to believe these things as children, and in many ways, our majority Christian society supports these beliefs, so it can be hard to look at them with adult eyes.

How above it all you are with your adult ways.

Sorry but people who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish away. It's a step above believing in Santa and his list of who's naughty and nice. Really, it's the same damn thing. Probably it's a step below believing in Santa because at least people grow out of that.

Aw, and we had such a nice break from this line of bigotry over the last week or so.

pp is blunt, but there is nothing bigoted about these remarks

BIGOT: def. a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Emphasis on unfairly. Reasons seem fair to me. Also I don't hate anyone or even necessarily dislike them. I think they are childish. You don't appear to like me particularly but that doesn't make you a bigot either.

But hey if it makes you feel better to think everyone who disagrees with you is a bigot, knock yourself out.

Of course the reasons seem fair to you. I thought atheists were supposed to appreciate others in a way that we religious people can't, or won't. Let me guess, there are some acceptable differences to embrace (dress, food, secular cultural traditions, skin color) and then there's religion.

"Humanists" often reveal themselves as more judgmental and dismissive than most believers.

You guessed wrong. Anyway, I'm curious what would be the acceptable non-bigoted opinion about someone belief in a flaming hell where all the bad people (and non-believers like me) burn for eternity? Childish seems to be pretty generous!

Oh, but I don't believe that about nonbelievers. A lot of posters here don't. But there you go with your broad brush. You were making encompassing negative assumptions based on one identifying element of a person (belief system). Hmmm. Sounds like a bigot to me.

No I wasn't. The belief is childish. What other "encompassing negative" things did I say? Did I say they beat their children and don't pay their taxes? Plenty of religious people are perfectly nice. And my "broad brush" view of hell is a popular one. But feel free to share your view that's supposedly so different.

"PEOPLE who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish" is what you said earlier. Along with them being a step above believing Santa maintains a Naughty and Nice list. Now you're saying the belief is childish, oh and there are plenty of "perfectly nice" religious people, too.

I will give you this, you did NOT say they beat their children. So there's that.

Let me clarify for your that obvi they sound childish to me WHEN expressing that belief. That should be obvious, but you seem slow. I'm not saying I can tell from a cashier's "childish" voice or something that they believe in hell. The comparison with Santa seems to really offend you, but it's a perfect analogy. These people are good and get rewards... These people are bad and get coal (maybe brought up from the fires of hell, lol!).

So it's the vocal believer you find childish. Those who keep their views on heaven and hell to themselves are not judged by you.

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Anonymous wrote:When you die, you just die. There's nothig afterwards. You don't get rewards for being good or punishment for being bad. Why do you all need to cling to an imagined afterlife to make your lives on earth meaningful? You all sound so sad.

Many people were taught to believe these things as children, and in many ways, our majority Christian society supports these beliefs, so it can be hard to look at them with adult eyes.

How above it all you are with your adult ways.

Sorry but people who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish away. It's a step above believing in Santa and his list of who's naughty and nice. Really, it's the same damn thing. Probably it's a step below believing in Santa because at least people grow out of that.

Aw, and we had such a nice break from this line of bigotry over the last week or so.

pp is blunt, but there is nothing bigoted about these remarks

BIGOT: def. a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Emphasis on unfairly. Reasons seem fair to me. Also I don't hate anyone or even necessarily dislike them. I think they are childish. You don't appear to like me particularly but that doesn't make you a bigot either.

But hey if it makes you feel better to think everyone who disagrees with you is a bigot, knock yourself out.

Of course the reasons seem fair to you. I thought atheists were supposed to appreciate others in a way that we religious people can't, or won't. Let me guess, there are some acceptable differences to embrace (dress, food, secular cultural traditions, skin color) and then there's religion.

"Humanists" often reveal themselves as more judgmental and dismissive than most believers.

You guessed wrong. Anyway, I'm curious what would be the acceptable non-bigoted opinion about someone belief in a flaming hell where all the bad people (and non-believers like me) burn for eternity? Childish seems to be pretty generous!

Oh, but I don't believe that about nonbelievers. A lot of posters here don't. But there you go with your broad brush. You were making encompassing negative assumptions based on one identifying element of a person (belief system). Hmmm. Sounds like a bigot to me.

No I wasn't. The belief is childish. What other "encompassing negative" things did I say? Did I say they beat their children and don't pay their taxes? Plenty of religious people are perfectly nice. And my "broad brush" view of hell is a popular one. But feel free to share your view that's supposedly so different.

"PEOPLE who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish" is what you said earlier. Along with them being a step above believing Santa maintains a Naughty and Nice list. Now you're saying the belief is childish, oh and there are plenty of "perfectly nice" religious people, too.

I will give you this, you did NOT say they beat their children. So there's that.

Let me clarify for your that obvi they sound childish to me WHEN expressing that belief. That should be obvious, but you seem slow. I'm not saying I can tell from a cashier's "childish" voice or something that they believe in hell. The comparison with Santa seems to really offend you, but it's a perfect analogy. These people are good and get rewards... These people are bad and get coal (maybe brought up from the fires of hell, lol!).

So it's the vocal believer you find childish. Those who keep their views on heaven and hell to themselves are not judged by you.

Um, no. I think the PP was trying to say I think people who believe in hell are all-around childish in their lives or something. She highlighted the word "people" as if that's what she meant. I'm saying, they could be fine in other aspects of their lives. I'm not saying your belief in hell taints your entire being. I'm saying the belief is childish and accordingly they sound childish when they express that belief.

Obviously if you never express belief, I don't know what you believe! But I still in the abstract think the belief is childish.

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You people are retributive and vengeful! Did someone put gluten in your muffin?

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Um, no. I think the PP was trying to say I think people who believe in hell are all-around childish in their lives or something. She highlighted the word "people" as if that's what she meant. I'm saying, they could be fine in other aspects of their lives. I'm not saying your belief in hell taints your entire being. I'm saying the belief is childish and accordingly they sound childish when they express that belief.

Obviously if you never express belief, I don't know what you believe! But I still in the abstract think the belief is childish.

You are a better communicator than pp. I still think pp has a generally low opinion of those who believe in a higher power and that she was backpedaling furiously. But just as we disagree about my beliefs being childish, she and I will have to agree to disagree that she's a bigot.

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Anonymous wrote:You people are retributive and vengeful! Did someone put gluten in your muffin?

what?

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Anonymous wrote:When you die, you just die. There's nothig afterwards. You don't get rewards for being good or punishment for being bad. Why do you all need to cling to an imagined afterlife to make your lives on earth meaningful? You all sound so sad.

Many people were taught to believe these things as children, and in many ways, our majority Christian society supports these beliefs, so it can be hard to look at them with adult eyes.

How above it all you are with your adult ways.

Sorry but people who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish away. It's a step above believing in Santa and his list of who's naughty and nice. Really, it's the same damn thing. Probably it's a step below believing in Santa because at least people grow out of that.

Aw, and we had such a nice break from this line of bigotry over the last week or so.

pp is blunt, but there is nothing bigoted about these remarks

BIGOT: def. a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Emphasis on unfairly. Reasons seem fair to me. Also I don't hate anyone or even necessarily dislike them. I think they are childish. You don't appear to like me particularly but that doesn't make you a bigot either.

But hey if it makes you feel better to think everyone who disagrees with you is a bigot, knock yourself out.

Of course the reasons seem fair to you. I thought atheists were supposed to appreciate others in a way that we religious people can't, or won't. Let me guess, there are some acceptable differences to embrace (dress, food, secular cultural traditions, skin color) and then there's religion.

"Humanists" often reveal themselves as more judgmental and dismissive than most believers.

You guessed wrong. Anyway, I'm curious what would be the acceptable non-bigoted opinion about someone belief in a flaming hell where all the bad people (and non-believers like me) burn for eternity? Childish seems to be pretty generous!

Oh, but I don't believe that about nonbelievers. A lot of posters here don't. But there you go with your broad brush. You were making encompassing negative assumptions based on one identifying element of a person (belief system). Hmmm. Sounds like a bigot to me.

No I wasn't. The belief is childish. What other "encompassing negative" things did I say? Did I say they beat their children and don't pay their taxes? Plenty of religious people are perfectly nice. And my "broad brush" view of hell is a popular one. But feel free to share your view that's supposedly so different.

"PEOPLE who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish" is what you said earlier. Along with them being a step above believing Santa maintains a Naughty and Nice list. Now you're saying the belief is childish, oh and there are plenty of "perfectly nice" religious people, too.

I will give you this, you did NOT say they beat their children. So there's that.

Let me clarify for your that obvi they sound childish to me WHEN expressing that belief. That should be obvious, but you seem slow. I'm not saying I can tell from a cashier's "childish" voice or something that they believe in hell. The comparison with Santa seems to really offend you, but it's a perfect analogy. These people are good and get rewards... These people are bad and get coal (maybe brought up from the fires of hell, lol!).

Christians don't believe they're good and deserve Heaven. We're all worse than we should be. We only believe we're forgiven by Christ and are given Heaven as a gift out of God's love and mercy.

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^^^ and understanding our situation that he explained to us .

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Um, no. I think the PP was trying to say I think people who believe in hell are all-around childish in their lives or something. She highlighted the word "people" as if that's what she meant. I'm saying, they could be fine in other aspects of their lives. I'm not saying your belief in hell taints your entire being. I'm saying the belief is childish and accordingly they sound childish when they express that belief.

Obviously if you never express belief, I don't know what you believe! But I still in the abstract think the belief is childish.

You are a better communicator than pp. I still think pp has a generally low opinion of those who believe in a higher power and that she was backpedaling furiously. But just as we disagree about my beliefs being childish, she and I will have to agree to disagree that she's a bigot.

You're confusing who the "PP" is. I'm the one who you are quoting as a good communicator AND the one who you think is backpedaling. So yeah, you really have reading comprehension problems and it's probably easier for you to stick to thinking I'm a bigot.

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Um, no. I think the PP was trying to say I think people who believe in hell are all-around childish in their lives or something. She highlighted the word "people" as if that's what she meant. I'm saying, they could be fine in other aspects of their lives. I'm not saying your belief in hell taints your entire being. I'm saying the belief is childish and accordingly they sound childish when they express that belief.

Obviously if you never express belief, I don't know what you believe! But I still in the abstract think the belief is childish.

You are a better communicator than pp. I still think pp has a generally low opinion of those who believe in a higher power and that she was backpedaling furiously. But just as we disagree about my beliefs being childish, she and I will have to agree to disagree that she's a bigot.

You're confusing who the "PP" is. I'm the one who you are quoting as a good communicator AND the one who you think is backpedaling. So yeah, you really have reading comprehension problems and it's probably easier for you to stick to thinking I'm a bigot.

That's funny, because you were actually talking to ME as of I were another person, too. And yeah, I'll absolutely stick to my conclusion that you're a bigot.

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Anonymous wrote:When you die, you just die. There's nothig afterwards. You don't get rewards for being good or punishment for being bad. Why do you all need to cling to an imagined afterlife to make your lives on earth meaningful? You all sound so sad.

Many people were taught to believe these things as children, and in many ways, our majority Christian society supports these beliefs, so it can be hard to look at them with adult eyes.

How above it all you are with your adult ways.

Sorry but people who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish away. It's a step above believing in Santa and his list of who's naughty and nice. Really, it's the same damn thing. Probably it's a step below believing in Santa because at least people grow out of that.

Aw, and we had such a nice break from this line of bigotry over the last week or so.

pp is blunt, but there is nothing bigoted about these remarks

BIGOT: def. a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Emphasis on unfairly. Reasons seem fair to me. Also I don't hate anyone or even necessarily dislike them. I think they are childish. You don't appear to like me particularly but that doesn't make you a bigot either.

But hey if it makes you feel better to think everyone who disagrees with you is a bigot, knock yourself out.

Of course the reasons seem fair to you. I thought atheists were supposed to appreciate others in a way that we religious people can't, or won't. Let me guess, there are some acceptable differences to embrace (dress, food, secular cultural traditions, skin color) and then there's religion.

"Humanists" often reveal themselves as more judgmental and dismissive than most believers.

You guessed wrong. Anyway, I'm curious what would be the acceptable non-bigoted opinion about someone belief in a flaming hell where all the bad people (and non-believers like me) burn for eternity? Childish seems to be pretty generous!

Oh, but I don't believe that about nonbelievers. A lot of posters here don't. But there you go with your broad brush. You were making encompassing negative assumptions based on one identifying element of a person (belief system). Hmmm. Sounds like a bigot to me.

No I wasn't. The belief is childish. What other "encompassing negative" things did I say? Did I say they beat their children and don't pay their taxes? Plenty of religious people are perfectly nice. And my "broad brush" view of hell is a popular one. But feel free to share your view that's supposedly so different.

"PEOPLE who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish" is what you said earlier. Along with them being a step above believing Santa maintains a Naughty and Nice list. Now you're saying the belief is childish, oh and there are plenty of "perfectly nice" religious people, too.

I will give you this, you did NOT say they beat their children. So there's that.

Let me clarify for your that obvi they sound childish to me WHEN expressing that belief. That should be obvious, but you seem slow. I'm not saying I can tell from a cashier's "childish" voice or something that they believe in hell. The comparison with Santa seems to really offend you, but it's a perfect analogy. These people are good and get rewards... These people are bad and get coal (maybe brought up from the fires of hell, lol!).

Christians don't believe they're good and deserve Heaven. We're all worse than we should be. We only believe we're forgiven by Christ and are given Heaven as a gift out of God's love and mercy.

Right but you're good because you believe and get the benefit of his mercy while those that don't believe don't. Or do you think everyone goes to heaven and there is no hell?

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Um, no. I think the PP was trying to say I think people who believe in hell are all-around childish in their lives or something. She highlighted the word "people" as if that's what she meant. I'm saying, they could be fine in other aspects of their lives. I'm not saying your belief in hell taints your entire being. I'm saying the belief is childish and accordingly they sound childish when they express that belief.

Obviously if you never express belief, I don't know what you believe! But I still in the abstract think the belief is childish.

You are a better communicator than pp. I still think pp has a generally low opinion of those who believe in a higher power and that she was backpedaling furiously. But just as we disagree about my beliefs being childish, she and I will have to agree to disagree that she's a bigot.

You're confusing who the "PP" is. I'm the one who you are quoting as a good communicator AND the one who you think is backpedaling. So yeah, you really have reading comprehension problems and it's probably easier for you to stick to thinking I'm a bigot.

That's funny, because you were actually talking to ME as of I were another person, too. And yeah, I'll absolutely stick to my conclusion that you're a bigot.

Except my mistake didn't impact anything I said or my logic whereas you were both complementing and criticizing me in the same breath! Hilarious! You have no idea what a bigot actually is if you thinking one patricular aspect of religious belief is childish. You must go through life thinking you're surrounded by bigots. Really sad.

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Anonymous wrote:When you die, you just die. There's nothig afterwards. You don't get rewards for being good or punishment for being bad. Why do you all need to cling to an imagined afterlife to make your lives on earth meaningful? You all sound so sad.

Many people were taught to believe these things as children, and in many ways, our majority Christian society supports these beliefs, so it can be hard to look at them with adult eyes.

How above it all you are with your adult ways.

Sorry but people who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish away. It's a step above believing in Santa and his list of who's naughty and nice. Really, it's the same damn thing. Probably it's a step below believing in Santa because at least people grow out of that.

Aw, and we had such a nice break from this line of bigotry over the last week or so.

pp is blunt, but there is nothing bigoted about these remarks

BIGOT: def. a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

Emphasis on unfairly. Reasons seem fair to me. Also I don't hate anyone or even necessarily dislike them. I think they are childish. You don't appear to like me particularly but that doesn't make you a bigot either.

But hey if it makes you feel better to think everyone who disagrees with you is a bigot, knock yourself out.

Of course the reasons seem fair to you. I thought atheists were supposed to appreciate others in a way that we religious people can't, or won't. Let me guess, there are some acceptable differences to embrace (dress, food, secular cultural traditions, skin color) and then there's religion.

"Humanists" often reveal themselves as more judgmental and dismissive than most believers.

You guessed wrong. Anyway, I'm curious what would be the acceptable non-bigoted opinion about someone belief in a flaming hell where all the bad people (and non-believers like me) burn for eternity? Childish seems to be pretty generous!

Oh, but I don't believe that about nonbelievers. A lot of posters here don't. But there you go with your broad brush. You were making encompassing negative assumptions based on one identifying element of a person (belief system). Hmmm. Sounds like a bigot to me.

No I wasn't. The belief is childish. What other "encompassing negative" things did I say? Did I say they beat their children and don't pay their taxes? Plenty of religious people are perfectly nice. And my "broad brush" view of hell is a popular one. But feel free to share your view that's supposedly so different.

"PEOPLE who believe in heaven and hell sound incredibly childish" is what you said earlier. Along with them being a step above believing Santa maintains a Naughty and Nice list. Now you're saying the belief is childish, oh and there are plenty of "perfectly nice" religious people, too.

I will give you this, you did NOT say they beat their children. So there's that.

Let me clarify for your that obvi they sound childish to me WHEN expressing that belief. That should be obvious, but you seem slow. I'm not saying I can tell from a cashier's "childish" voice or something that they believe in hell. The comparison with Santa seems to really offend you, but it's a perfect analogy. These people are good and get rewards... These people are bad and get coal (maybe brought up from the fires of hell, lol!).

Christians don't believe they're good and deserve Heaven. We're all worse than we should be. We only believe we're forgiven by Christ and are given Heaven as a gift out of God's love and mercy.

Right but you're good because you believe and get the benefit of his mercy while those that don't believe don't. Or do you think everyone goes to heaven and there is no hell?

Oh, there's a hell, all right. That's part of believing. But the offer is open to all. Repent, and believe the Gospel!

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Um, no. I think the PP was trying to say I think people who believe in hell are all-around childish in their lives or something. She highlighted the word "people" as if that's what she meant. I'm saying, they could be fine in other aspects of their lives. I'm not saying your belief in hell taints your entire being. I'm saying the belief is childish and accordingly they sound childish when they express that belief.

Obviously if you never express belief, I don't know what you believe! But I still in the abstract think the belief is childish.

You are a better communicator than pp. I still think pp has a generally low opinion of those who believe in a higher power and that she was backpedaling furiously. But just as we disagree about my beliefs being childish, she and I will have to agree to disagree that she's a bigot.

You're confusing who the "PP" is. I'm the one who you are quoting as a good communicator AND the one who you think is backpedaling. So yeah, you really have reading comprehension problems and it's probably easier for you to stick to thinking I'm a bigot.

That's funny, because you were actually talking to ME as of I were another person, too. And yeah, I'll absolutely stick to my conclusion that you're a bigot.

Except my mistake didn't impact anything I said or my logic whereas you were both complementing and criticizing me in the same breath! Hilarious! You have no idea what a bigot actually is if you thinking one patricular aspect of religious belief is childish. You must go through life thinking you're surrounded by bigots. Really sad.

if you think it is thinking one particular