Parenthood

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Anonymous wrote:I really enjoy watching Hanks personal growth. Ray Romano is so good!

Yes, love Ray Romano in this role. There's some depth there.

My prediction about the house sale is that the big money will help Zeke get enthusiastically on board-- so that he won't feel like he's making a sacrifice to make Camille happy-- but that Camille will back out at the last minute, realizing that she can get the adventure that she needs without selling the house. It's like there are two sides to her, the mother/matriarch and the artist/adventurer. She's spent the last 40+ years only inhabiting the mother/wife role and has ignored her inner artist. She's a little resentful because she's currently viewing the mother role/wife role as one of sacrifice. She wants to correct the imbalance and thinks selling the house will free them up to be more adventurous. I think in this last episode, she's realizing that her plan to sell the house will actually just shift the imbalance in the other direction. She's remembering what she's loved about that part of her life, now that it's about to slip away from her a bit.

Her little martyr routine bugs me. If you didn't want to be a SAHM, you should have gone to work. Both are valid options. But don't live an inauthentic life and then blame your husband and kids.

Love the show too. Last episode totally brought me to tears.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really enjoy watching Hanks personal growth. Ray Romano is so good!

Yes, love Ray Romano in this role. There's some depth there.

My prediction about the house sale is that the big money will help Zeke get enthusiastically on board-- so that he won't feel like he's making a sacrifice to make Camille happy-- but that Camille will back out at the last minute, realizing that she can get the adventure that she needs without selling the house. It's like there are two sides to her, the mother/matriarch and the artist/adventurer. She's spent the last 40+ years only inhabiting the mother/wife role and has ignored her inner artist. She's a little resentful because she's currently viewing the mother role/wife role as one of sacrifice. She wants to correct the imbalance and thinks selling the house will free them up to be more adventurous. I think in this last episode, she's realizing that her plan to sell the house will actually just shift the imbalance in the other direction. She's remembering what she's loved about that part of her life, now that it's about to slip away from her a bit.

Her little martyr routine bugs me. If you didn't want to be a SAHM, you should have gone to work. Both are valid options. But don't live an inauthentic life and then blame your husband and kids.

Love the show too. Last episode totally brought me to tears.

I don't think she is blaming her husband and kids. If you are talking about when she went off at Crosby, he deserved it. I think selling the house will give them the money they need to travel. I think she enjoyed her life as a SAHM but is ready to do some things for her self for once. It's not like she has a bunch if time left, she should be able to do what she wants. Her kids are in their 30's and 40's they need to grow up and let the house go. I mean unless one of them decide to buy it, it's going to be sold at some point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really enjoy watching Hanks personal growth. Ray Romano is so good!

Yes, love Ray Romano in this role. There's some depth there.

My prediction about the house sale is that the big money will help Zeke get enthusiastically on board-- so that he won't feel like he's making a sacrifice to make Camille happy-- but that Camille will back out at the last minute, realizing that she can get the adventure that she needs without selling the house. It's like there are two sides to her, the mother/matriarch and the artist/adventurer. She's spent the last 40+ years only inhabiting the mother/wife role and has ignored her inner artist. She's a little resentful because she's currently viewing the mother role/wife role as one of sacrifice. She wants to correct the imbalance and thinks selling the house will free them up to be more adventurous. I think in this last episode, she's realizing that her plan to sell the house will actually just shift the imbalance in the other direction. She's remembering what she's loved about that part of her life, now that it's about to slip away from her a bit.

Her little martyr routine bugs me. If you didn't want to be a SAHM, you should have gone to work. Both are valid options. But don't live an inauthentic life and then blame your husband and kids.

Love the show too. Last episode totally brought me to tears.

I don't think she is blaming her husband and kids. If you are talking about when she went off at Crosby, he deserved it. I think selling the house will give them the money they need to travel. I think she enjoyed her life as a SAHM but is ready to do some things for her self for once. It's not like she has a bunch if time left, she should be able to do what she wants. Her kids are in their 30's and 40's they need to grow up and let the house go. I mean unless one of them decide to buy it, it's going to be sold at some point.

Fair enough. Good point.

I would like them to address the financial situation of these characters more. Primarily with the broken family holding down two households. I actually think it's a little unfortunate that they kind of make it seem like nice families never have money trouble.

[Anonymous]

I love this show so much. Haven't found anything with the same feeling/plot/characters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm tiring of Kristina and Adam for no good reason but the scene in the mini van on the drive home from camp with Max was a tear-jerker. I think the show does a really good job writing with Max -- but do Aspergers parents agree that this can be life with a Max?

IME with Aspergers kids (not a parent of one) the behavior is very accurate. However, it's unrealistic that Max can articulate his feelings so well. Typically, they're either unaware of what's going on or don't want to talk about it. There's also not enough ability to focus on a conversation like that.

Parent of 12-y-o with Asperger's here. Totally realistic, have had just about the same conversation many many times. There are times when he seems to come so clearly into focus with his feelings and can articulate them incredibly well. They are getting more and more frequent. I'm finding that instead of the meltdowns he once had, he will become frustrated but be able to articulate why much more clearly. This is after 8+ years of intense intervention.

Love the show!

[Anonymous]

I wonder if the person who wants to buy the house is going to raze it. That would be an interesting and really sad plot twist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really enjoy watching Hanks personal growth. Ray Romano is so good!

Yes, love Ray Romano in this role. There's some depth there.

My prediction about the house sale is that the big money will help Zeke get enthusiastically on board-- so that he won't feel like he's making a sacrifice to make Camille happy-- but that Camille will back out at the last minute, realizing that she can get the adventure that she needs without selling the house. It's like there are two sides to her, the mother/matriarch and the artist/adventurer. She's spent the last 40+ years only inhabiting the mother/wife role and has ignored her inner artist. She's a little resentful because she's currently viewing the mother role/wife role as one of sacrifice. She wants to correct the imbalance and thinks selling the house will free them up to be more adventurous. I think in this last episode, she's realizing that her plan to sell the house will actually just shift the imbalance in the other direction. She's remembering what she's loved about that part of her life, now that it's about to slip away from her a bit.

Her little martyr routine bugs me. If you didn't want to be a SAHM, you should have gone to work. Both are valid options. But don't live an inauthentic life and then blame your husband and kids.

Love the show too. Last episode totally brought me to tears.

I don't think she is blaming her husband and kids. If you are talking about when she went off at Crosby, he deserved it. I think selling the house will give them the money they need to travel. I think she enjoyed her life as a SAHM but is ready to do some things for her self for once. It's not like she has a bunch if time left, she should be able to do what she wants. Her kids are in their 30's and 40's they need to grow up and let the house go. I mean unless one of them decide to buy it, it's going to be sold at some point.

Fair enough. Good point.

I would like them to address the financial situation of these characters more. Primarily with the broken family holding down two households. I actually think it's a little unfortunate that they kind of make it seem like nice families never have money trouble.

I wonder if that's just a Hollywood blind spot because the producers of these shows don't have that on their personal radar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really enjoy watching Hanks personal growth. Ray Romano is so good!

Yes, love Ray Romano in this role. There's some depth there.

My prediction about the house sale is that the big money will help Zeke get enthusiastically on board-- so that he won't feel like he's making a sacrifice to make Camille happy-- but that Camille will back out at the last minute, realizing that she can get the adventure that she needs without selling the house. It's like there are two sides to her, the mother/matriarch and the artist/adventurer. She's spent the last 40+ years only inhabiting the mother/wife role and has ignored her inner artist. She's a little resentful because she's currently viewing the mother role/wife role as one of sacrifice. She wants to correct the imbalance and thinks selling the house will free them up to be more adventurous. I think in this last episode, she's realizing that her plan to sell the house will actually just shift the imbalance in the other direction. She's remembering what she's loved about that part of her life, now that it's about to slip away from her a bit.

Her little martyr routine bugs me. If you didn't want to be a SAHM, you should have gone to work. Both are valid options. But don't live an inauthentic life and then blame your husband and kids.

Love the show too. Last episode totally brought me to tears.

I don't think she is blaming her husband and kids. If you are talking about when she went off at Crosby, he deserved it. I think selling the house will give them the money they need to travel. I think she enjoyed her life as a SAHM but is ready to do some things for her self for once. It's not like she has a bunch if time left, she should be able to do what she wants. Her kids are in their 30's and 40's they need to grow up and let the house go. I mean unless one of them decide to buy it, it's going to be sold at some point.

Fair enough. Good point.

I would like them to address the financial situation of these characters more. Primarily with the broken family holding down two households. I actually think it's a little unfortunate that they kind of make it seem like nice families never have money trouble.

they have shorn all of Sarah"s financial woes. Julia was in a big law firm before she quit. I would assume there are saavings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really enjoy watching Hanks personal growth. Ray Romano is so good!

Yes, love Ray Romano in this role. There's some depth there.

My prediction about the house sale is that the big money will help Zeke get enthusiastically on board-- so that he won't feel like he's making a sacrifice to make Camille happy-- but that Camille will back out at the last minute, realizing that she can get the adventure that she needs without selling the house. It's like there are two sides to her, the mother/matriarch and the artist/adventurer. She's spent the last 40+ years only inhabiting the mother/wife role and has ignored her inner artist. She's a little resentful because she's currently viewing the mother role/wife role as one of sacrifice. She wants to correct the imbalance and thinks selling the house will free them up to be more adventurous. I think in this last episode, she's realizing that her plan to sell the house will actually just shift the imbalance in the other direction. She's remembering what she's loved about that part of her life, now that it's about to slip away from her a bit.

Her little martyr routine bugs me. If you didn't want to be a SAHM, you should have gone to work. Both are valid options. But don't live an inauthentic life and then blame your husband and kids.

Love the show too. Last episode totally brought me to tears.

Adam has to be at least early to mid-40s, and Camille and Zeke can't be more than early to mid 60s, so Camille was probably quite young when she started her family. She came of age in an era where most women still stayed home, especially once they had a child. She had four. Seems like she probably just followed the norms of the day and by the time she was mature enough or experienced enough to realize she wanted more, she had too many children to make a change feasible. Especially if her talent and interest were in an artistic/travel direction. Those kinds of pursuits don't really come with a clearly defined path, nor, generally, good pay. If her burning professional desire had been to be a nurse, for instance, that would have been much easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really enjoy watching Hanks personal growth. Ray Romano is so good!

Yes, love Ray Romano in this role. There's some depth there.

My prediction about the house sale is that the big money will help Zeke get enthusiastically on board-- so that he won't feel like he's making a sacrifice to make Camille happy-- but that Camille will back out at the last minute, realizing that she can get the adventure that she needs without selling the house. It's like there are two sides to her, the mother/matriarch and the artist/adventurer. She's spent the last 40+ years only inhabiting the mother/wife role and has ignored her inner artist. She's a little resentful because she's currently viewing the mother role/wife role as one of sacrifice. She wants to correct the imbalance and thinks selling the house will free them up to be more adventurous. I think in this last episode, she's realizing that her plan to sell the house will actually just shift the imbalance in the other direction. She's remembering what she's loved about that part of her life, now that it's about to slip away from her a bit.

Her little martyr routine bugs me. If you didn't want to be a SAHM, you should have gone to work. Both are valid options. But don't live an inauthentic life and then blame your husband and kids.

Love the show too. Last episode totally brought me to tears.

I don't think she is blaming her husband and kids. If you are talking about when she went off at Crosby, he deserved it. I think selling the house will give them the money they need to travel. I think she enjoyed her life as a SAHM but is ready to do some things for her self for once. It's not like she has a bunch if time left, she should be able to do what she wants. Her kids are in their 30's and 40's they need to grow up and let the house go. I mean unless one of them decide to buy it, it's going to be sold at some point.

Fair enough. Good point.

I would like them to address the financial situation of these characters more. Primarily with the broken family holding down two households. I actually think it's a little unfortunate that they kind of make it seem like nice families never have money trouble.

they have shorn all of Sarah"s financial woes. Julia was in a big law firm before she quit. I would assume there are saavings.

And it was big plot point when Adam lost his job and was deciding to go into business with Crosby. The money discussions between him and Christine I found utterly believable.

[Anonymous]

Adam's and Kristina's house would be extremely expensive. Ditto Julia's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Adam's and Kristina's house would be extremely expensive. Ditto Julia's.

Re: financial status of the Bravermans in general: what was Zeke's profession before retirement? Maybe it's implied they have family money.

[Anonymous]

Am I the only person who cannot stand Amber and is totally bored with her story line? she could not be more predictable if she tried. as soon as her scene starts I fastforward right thru it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Adam's and Kristina's house would be extremely expensive. Ditto Julia's.

Re: financial status of the Bravermans in general: what was Zeke's profession before retirement? Maybe it's implied they have family money.

Expensive NOW but not when they bought it. it was their first home, so they purchased it 40 yrs ago perhaps?

Julia's house is appropriate because she USED to be an attorney.

Crosby's house is a perfect fit for who they are.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the person who wants to buy the house is going to raze it. That would be an interesting and really sad plot twist.

I am under the complete impression that is what the guy who made the offer is going to do. he was so blaze about the whole house, didnt even want to hear about all the improvements Zeke made over the years.