Looking for liberal Catholic church in NOVA?

[Anonymous]

I'm just googling if a non-Catholic can receive communion.

The situation happened last spring. Our DD went to the Catholic school and we were very involved and went to church. Our priest allowed it at her First Holy Communion; told me ahead of time. I recall the going to church regularly was a part of that decision, as was the belief in transubstantiation (sp?). Here is the probable real answer:…we lived in Los Angeles. LA is not as strict as around here, that could be part of it.

Anyways, here's something I found:

There are five conditions set down in canon law by which a baptized Christian who is not Roman Catholic can receive with us. Like all church law these conditions are meant to be interpreted through the lens of charity.

Two of these conditions are that the person first must share our Catholic faith in the meaning of the Eucharist, and they must lack normal access to a minister of their own faith tradition. Think of the widow of a Catholic at his funeral, or a devout lady who is gravely ill in a nursing home whose minister never visits, the prisoner isolated from the church community, or a soldier who worships at Mass with his or her comrades on the eve of a dangerous mission. In each case the canonical provisions suggest that the desire to receive sometimes trumps our Catholics-only policy.

But at this point in ecumenical relations, each situation has to be handled individually, normally in consultation with a priest, and ideally in dialogue with the bishop. This remains a pastoral problem that is under constant investigation and study.

http://www.uscatholic.org/glad-you-asked/2008/11/can-a-non-catholic-receive-communion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

Agreed. Cafeteria Catholics should grab their pledge money and get out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

So are you saying that a Catholic who supports gay rights even though they are straight themself, faithful to their spouse and try to live a moral life should join a Protestant denomination because they don't agree with the Church?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

So are you saying that a Catholic who supports gay rights even though they are straight themself, faithful to their spouse and try to live a moral life should join a Protestant denomination because they don't agree with the Church?

I guarantee you that a "Catholic" who supports gay rights, also holds other beliefs that contradict the Church's teaching, so yes. I don't understand people who bitch about the Catholic church not changing their religious views. I wouldn't claim to be an Orthodox Jew and then dismiss all the Jewish laws and bitch about how outdated and irrelevant those laws/beliefs are. That's idiotic.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

So are you saying that a Catholic who supports gay rights even though they are straight themself, faithful to their spouse and try to live a moral life should join a Protestant denomination because they don't agree with the Church?

If someone disagrees with a fundamental teaching of the church such as homosexuality, then there's going to be a hell of a lot more that that person disagrees with. That's like saying a Catholic who supports abortion rights even though they never had/would have one is no big deal in the eyes of the church. The point of identifying with a particular denomination is that you believe the teachings of said denomination. If you don't then what's the point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

Wait, so by "cafeteria catholics" you obviously mean right-wing Catholics who are rising against the Pope, right?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/10/us/conservative-us-catholics-feel-left-out-of-the-popes-embrace.html

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

So are you saying that a Catholic who supports gay rights even though they are straight themself, faithful to their spouse and try to live a moral life should join a Protestant denomination because they don't agree with the Church?

I guarantee you that a "Catholic" who supports gay rights, also holds other beliefs that contradict the Church's teaching, so yes. I don't understand people who bitch about the Catholic church not changing their religious views. I wouldn't claim to be an Orthodox Jew and then dismiss all the Jewish laws and bitch about how outdated and irrelevant those laws/beliefs are. That's idiotic.

It's funny, you sound exactly like a rules-obsessed martinet that Pope Francis recently rebuked "disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently". Given that Benedict was basically the nadir of the modern Church, I've got a feeling you're in for a very long couple of millennia.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

So are you saying that a Catholic who supports gay rights even though they are straight themself, faithful to their spouse and try to live a moral life should join a Protestant denomination because they don't agree with the Church?

I guarantee you that a "Catholic" who supports gay rights, also holds other beliefs that contradict the Church's teaching, so yes. I don't understand people who bitch about the Catholic church not changing their religious views. I wouldn't claim to be an Orthodox Jew and then dismiss all the Jewish laws and bitch about how outdated and irrelevant those laws/beliefs are. That's idiotic.

It's funny, you sound exactly like a rules-obsessed martinet that Pope Francis recently rebuked "disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently". Given that Benedict was basically the nadir of the modern Church, I've got a feeling you're in for a very long couple of millennia.

The Pope can say whatever he wants, and it can be interpreted 50 different ways, but in the Church's 2000+ year history, the doctrines/dogmas of the Catholic Church have NEVER changed. The pope's personal views are his personal views, but he is only infallible when speaking ex cathedra about dogmas/doctrines of the faith. There have been bad popes throughout the ages, but the teachings contained within the Catechism of the Catholic Church are clear, have stood the test of time, and aren't going to change.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

So are you saying that a Catholic who supports gay rights even though they are straight themself, faithful to their spouse and try to live a moral life should join a Protestant denomination because they don't agree with the Church?

I guarantee you that a "Catholic" who supports gay rights, also holds other beliefs that contradict the Church's teaching, so yes. I don't understand people who bitch about the Catholic church not changing their religious views. I wouldn't claim to be an Orthodox Jew and then dismiss all the Jewish laws and bitch about how outdated and irrelevant those laws/beliefs are. That's idiotic.

It's funny, you sound exactly like a rules-obsessed martinet that Pope Francis recently rebuked "disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently". Given that Benedict was basically the nadir of the modern Church, I've got a feeling you're in for a very long couple of millennia.

The Pope can say whatever he wants, and it can be interpreted 50 different ways, but in the Church's 2000+ year history, the doctrines/dogmas of the Catholic Church have NEVER changed. The pope's personal views are his personal views, but he is only infallible when speaking ex cathedra about dogmas/doctrines of the faith. There have been bad popes throughout the ages, but the teachings contained within the Catechism of the Catholic Church are clear, have stood the test of time, and aren't going to change.

Oh please.

No, the doctrines/dogmas of the Catholic Church have NEVER changed. Only their interpretation.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

So are you saying that a Catholic who supports gay rights even though they are straight themself, faithful to their spouse and try to live a moral life should join a Protestant denomination because they don't agree with the Church?

I guarantee you that a "Catholic" who supports gay rights, also holds other beliefs that contradict the Church's teaching, so yes. I don't understand people who bitch about the Catholic church not changing their religious views. I wouldn't claim to be an Orthodox Jew and then dismiss all the Jewish laws and bitch about how outdated and irrelevant those laws/beliefs are. That's idiotic.

It's funny, you sound exactly like a rules-obsessed martinet that Pope Francis recently rebuked "disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently". Given that Benedict was basically the nadir of the modern Church, I've got a feeling you're in for a very long couple of millennia.

The Pope can say whatever he wants, and it can be interpreted 50 different ways, but in the Church's 2000+ year history, the doctrines/dogmas of the Catholic Church have NEVER changed. The pope's personal views are his personal views, but he is only infallible when speaking ex cathedra about dogmas/doctrines of the faith. There have been bad popes throughout the ages, but the teachings contained within the Catechism of the Catholic Church are clear, have stood the test of time, and aren't going to change.

Oh please.

No, the doctrines/dogmas of the Catholic Church have NEVER changed. Only their interpretation.

No, only lay Catholic's interpretation, which is why we have the current problem of moral relativism. The Church's position on moral issues have never changed.

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Anonymous wrote:As a Catholic, I am a sinner. I sin every day; however, I still continue to BELIEVE all the church's teachings regarding faith and morals, and strive to follow Christ's commands despite my imperfections.

The flawed logic in "Cafeteria Catholics" is that in disagreeing with the Church's teachings on various teachings (pro-life, homosexual BEHAVIOR, fornication, adultery, etc), they no longer BELIEVE that certain acts/behaviors are sinful anymore, tricking themselves (through rationalization) that engaging in these acts/behaviors is therefore perfectly acceptable to God.

Seriously, there are tens of thousands of Protestant Christian denominations out there to fit just about any cafeteria line there is. Why not respect that the Catholic Church for standing up for their "unpopular" convictions with regard to moral issues?

So are you saying that a Catholic who supports gay rights even though they are straight themself, faithful to their spouse and try to live a moral life should join a Protestant denomination because they don't agree with the Church?

I guarantee you that a "Catholic" who supports gay rights, also holds other beliefs that contradict the Church's teaching, so yes. I don't understand people who bitch about the Catholic church not changing their religious views. I wouldn't claim to be an Orthodox Jew and then dismiss all the Jewish laws and bitch about how outdated and irrelevant those laws/beliefs are. That's idiotic.

It's funny, you sound exactly like a rules-obsessed martinet that Pope Francis recently rebuked "disjointed multitude of doctrines to be imposed insistently". Given that Benedict was basically the nadir of the modern Church, I've got a feeling you're in for a very long couple of millennia.

The Pope can say whatever he wants, and it can be interpreted 50 different ways, but in the Church's 2000+ year history, the doctrines/dogmas of the Catholic Church have NEVER changed. The pope's personal views are his personal views, but he is only infallible when speaking ex cathedra about dogmas/doctrines of the faith. There have been bad popes throughout the ages, but the teachings contained within the Catechism of the Catholic Church are clear, have stood the test of time, and aren't going to change.

Oh please.

No, the doctrines/dogmas of the Catholic Church have NEVER changed. Only their interpretation.

No, only lay Catholic's interpretation, which is why we have the current problem of moral relativism. The Church's position on moral issues have never changed.

We have always been at war with Oceana!

In any case, we shall see. My guess is that the days of the Catholic Church aggressively inserting itself into US politics on behalf of far right interests is probably on the wane. And that's a good thing for the Church.