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Op here. I didn't do it at birth, bc ds was born somewhat jaundicedandminor breathing issues, so his ped did it today at 13 days old. I talked to the ped about who normally gets this done. He said more than half the boys born in us hospitals, and not just Jewish or Muslim people, but parents for a wide variety of health benefits. He went on to explain those to me. That is why hospitals perform them generally right after birth, bc it's requested so often and so it's easiest to do it there. In other countries, like Canada that's not the case, with approx, 1/3 of parents requesting it. |
Is that a serious question? Muslims do it for religious reasons. Their doctors, if they advocate for circumcision, are religiously biased. Obvious, no? Please give it up and just admit that you circumcise for cultural or religious reasons, not because the medical evidence is compelling. Then we can stop arguing. (FYI, I'm not the poster who keeps bringing up female genital mutilation. While I do think she has a point, you are probably right that that procedure is more drastic.) |
I'm agnostic on male circumcision.
To answer those who say female genitle mutilation is more/less/same in terms of severity, it depends on the country and culture. In its most severe form it is devastating, will all external tissue removed and the opening sewed almost shut. In its least severe form a doctor pricks the area with a lance to draw blood, symbolically adhering to the tradition. All femal genital cutting, including the symbolic prick, are outlawed in the US. |
I would have no problem locking any parent who allows their sons or daughters to be circumcised in prison.
No qualms at all. |
Same. |
To the PPs asking how to arrange a circ:
Yes, you can tell your OB, who will do it in the hospital either immediately or about a day after birth. Or you can have it done at 4-8 weeks by a pediatric urologist at a place like Children's. We went the latter route with boy our boys. Our first showed no fussiness after the procedure. Our second was mildly uncomfortable for the first couple hours and then didn't fuss. Our second did develop mild adhesions after the initial circ had healed when we stopped using vaseline. So I do recommend that if your son has fatty penile tissue that envelops the head, continue to use vaseline every day until he grows out of it as a toddler. One benefit to urologist is that you'll have 3 visits: a consult, the procedure, and a follow-up. Circs done immediately after birth have no follow-up. |
PP again, to add:
After a certain age/weight (12 weeks or so), circs require general anesthesia rather than topical. That's why the 4-8 week window is important. (You can call to arrange the consult as soon as your son is added to your insurance. Then it's usually another couple weeks before they can schedule the procedure.) |
That is SO untrue. Americans win on technique and sexual manners, hands down. It is very individually driven but I find that the bar on what is acceptable and expected in bed is set higher for the American males, much to my delight. I'm European. |
Well, we obviously don't have the laws to justify that, and even in other Western countries where routine circumcision is not recommended it is not illegal (although there have recently been efforts in several Western European countries to outlaw it). It would just be good if Americans realized that they are ALONE among Western civilized nations in clinging to this practice, and that cultural bias is the real reason why US medical professionals advocate its routine performance. That might speed up the process of abandoning circumcision as a routine intervention in this country as well. |
Sure we do. It is called child abuse. Do you think for a second that someone who cut their baby's nose or ear or elbow with a knife wouldnt be thrown in jail? Doesn't seem that unreasonable to extend the same standards to protect a child's genitals. |
I agree, but our current laws don't classify male circumcision as child abuse, unfortunately. Don't compromise our good argument by being unreasonable (not saying that it is unreasonable to call circumcision child abuse, but it is unreasonable to pretend the laws to punish parents who circumcise are already in place). |
See..this is why circumcision of newborns should not be allowed. OP, you sound completely uninformed and a bit uneducated. You admit to knowing almost nothing about the procedure, yet you subject your son to mutilation. From your posts, it appears that you did no independent research *on your own*, but instead let doctors (who are paid for the service) dictate what you should do with your child's body. Did you watch videos of the procedure? See pictures? Did you do ANY independent research before arbitrarily mutilating your son's body without his consent? |
For god's sake, SHUT UP ALREADY. Go back to the lawn of the Capitol with your insane "Circumcision is Torture" signs and allow people to point and laugh at you as they walk by rather than annoying everyone here on DCUM. |
By the same token, you could argue that American doctors recommend it because they make money off the procedure. Not that I believe that that is the reason they recommend it. I believe the reason is cultural bias. If you want an unbiased perspective on the medical facts, it's always helpful to look at things in the international context, and when you do that with regard to circumcision, you can only come to the conclusion that the evidence for medical benefits is not compelling enough to recommend routine circumcision. And by international I mean Western secular societies, not Muslim countries who do it for religious reasons. |