Circumcise tomorrow ....what to expect

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the American Academy of Pediatrics
Policy Statement
Circumcision Policy Statement
TASK FORCE ON CIRCUMCISION
ABSTRACT

Male circumcision is a common procedure, generally performed during the newborn period in the United States. In 2007, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) formed a multidisciplinary task force of AAP members and other stakeholders to evaluate the recent evidence on male circumcision and update the Academy’s 1999 recommendations in this area. Evaluation of current evidence indicates that the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks and that the procedure’s benefits justify access to this procedure for families who choose it. Specific benefits identified included prevention of urinary tract infections, penile cancer, and transmission of some sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has endorsed this statement.

Thank you for posting this. This is a personal decision made by parents for various reasons, not the least of which is that it has been identified as beneficial by the AAP. If you disagree with this choice, I trust you won't make it for your own child. Your proselytizing is not appreciated and more than likely a waste of your time and ours as readers. It is also incredibly offensive to parents who made the decision to circumcise based on sound medical advice or religious beliefs (I happen to fall into both categories). This should be a forum where parents support other parents and constructively discuss issues that arise doing one of the hardest jobs on the planet and when you use it to judge and condemn others, you undermine what could be an incredibly valuable resource. What a shame.

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The posts switching male for female are not relevant. There is no comparison between male and female circumcision. Both the AAP and the WHO highlight the benefits of male circumcision.
Medical studies back this up
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/malecircumcision/

I circumcised my two sons for religious reasons and for the health benefits. It was a rational choice, not based on tradition/religious reasons alone. If the medical evidence demonstrated that it caused harm I would not have done it.

So how do you explain that none of the European governments recommends routine circumcision? Are they not up on the latest research regarding the medical benefits that justify altering an infant's natural body without his consent?

Just admit that the real reason for the practice in this country is cultural bias. Here is a recent commentary, published just last month on the website of the AAP:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2013/03/12/peds.2012-2896.abstract

("The other claimed health benefits, including protection against HIV/AIDS, genital herpes, genital warts, and penile cancer, are questionable, weak, and likely to have little public health relevance in a Western context, and they do not represent compelling reasons for surgery before boys are old enough to decide for themselves.")

The article linked above should really be read by any parent who considers circumcising their child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the American Academy of Pediatrics
Policy Statement
Circumcision Policy Statement
TASK FORCE ON CIRCUMCISION
ABSTRACT

Male circumcision is a common procedure, generally performed during the newborn period in the United States. In 2007, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) formed a multidisciplinary task force of AAP members and other stakeholders to evaluate the recent evidence on male circumcision and update the Academy’s 1999 recommendations in this area. Evaluation of current evidence indicates that the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks and that the procedure’s benefits justify access to this procedure for families who choose it. Specific benefits identified included prevention of urinary tract infections, penile cancer, and transmission of some sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has endorsed this statement.

Thank you for posting this. This is a personal decision made by parents for various reasons, not the least of which is that it has been identified as beneficial by the AAP. If you disagree with this choice, I trust you won't make it for your own child. Your proselytizing is not appreciated and more than likely a waste of your time and ours as readers. It is also incredibly offensive to parents who made the decision to circumcise based on sound medical advice or religious beliefs (I happen to fall into both categories). This should be a forum where parents support other parents and constructively discuss issues that arise doing one of the hardest jobs on the planet and when you use it to judge and condemn others, you undermine what could be an incredibly valuable resource. What a shame.

+1

The posts switching male for female are not relevant. There is no comparison between male and female circumcision. Both the AAP and the WHO highlight the benefits of male circumcision.
Medical studies back this up
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/malecircumcision/

I circumcised my two sons for religious reasons and for the health benefits. It was a rational choice, not based on tradition/religious reasons alone. If the medical evidence demonstrated that it caused harm I would not have done it.

Health benefits? Unless your son is a serial rapist who doesn't use protection, there are no health benefits for him. It is unbelievable the lengths people will go to in order to reassure themselves it is ok to mutilate their child's genitals. Unbelievable and unconscionable.

What are you talking about? Do you actually read the medical studies? the recommendations of the World Health Organization? You can choose to ignore inconvenient facts if you want to, but don't act like those of us who make a responsible, reasonable choice are idiotic monsters who enjoy inflicting harm on their children.

On another note, if circumcision really caused enormous problems for men and their sexual abilities do you really think men would allow it to continue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the American Academy of Pediatrics
Policy Statement
Circumcision Policy Statement
TASK FORCE ON CIRCUMCISION
ABSTRACT

Male circumcision is a common procedure, generally performed during the newborn period in the United States. In 2007, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) formed a multidisciplinary task force of AAP members and other stakeholders to evaluate the recent evidence on male circumcision and update the Academy’s 1999 recommendations in this area. Evaluation of current evidence indicates that the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks and that the procedure’s benefits justify access to this procedure for families who choose it. Specific benefits identified included prevention of urinary tract infections, penile cancer, and transmission of some sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has endorsed this statement.

Thank you for posting this. This is a personal decision made by parents for various reasons, not the least of which is that it has been identified as beneficial by the AAP. If you disagree with this choice, I trust you won't make it for your own child. Your proselytizing is not appreciated and more than likely a waste of your time and ours as readers. It is also incredibly offensive to parents who made the decision to circumcise based on sound medical advice or religious beliefs (I happen to fall into both categories). This should be a forum where parents support other parents and constructively discuss issues that arise doing one of the hardest jobs on the planet and when you use it to judge and condemn others, you undermine what could be an incredibly valuable resource. What a shame.

+1

The posts switching male for female are not relevant. There is no comparison between male and female circumcision. Both the AAP and the WHO highlight the benefits of male circumcision.
Medical studies back this up
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/malecircumcision/

I circumcised my two sons for religious reasons and for the health benefits. It was a rational choice, not based on tradition/religious reasons alone. If the medical evidence demonstrated that it caused harm I would not have done it.

Health benefits? Unless your son is a serial rapist who doesn't use protection, there are no health benefits for him. It is unbelievable the lengths people will go to in order to reassure themselves it is ok to mutilate their child's genitals. Unbelievable and unconscionable.

What are you talking about? Do you actually read the medical studies? the recommendations of the World Health Organization? You can choose to ignore inconvenient facts if you want to, but don't act like those of us who make a responsible, reasonable choice are idiotic monsters who enjoy inflicting harm on their children.

On another note, if circumcision really caused enormous problems for men and their sexual abilities do you really think men would allow it to continue?

What you should read is this, and then come back and tell us if you still think the evidence for health benefits is as compelling as many American parents think:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2013/03/12/peds.2012-2896.abstract

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
What are you talking about? Do you actually read the medical studies? the recommendations of the World Health Organization? You can choose to ignore inconvenient facts if you want to, but don't act like those of us who make a responsible, reasonable choice are idiotic monsters who enjoy inflicting harm on their children.

On another note, if circumcision really caused enormous problems for men and their sexual abilities do you really think men would allow it to continue?

I'm pretty sure Americans aren't known for their sexual prowess. European men, on the other hand, are rarely circumcised and ARE known for being studs.

So, yeah, I think American puritanical mob-mentality idiots would and do allow it to continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My baby will be 14 days old. Will he be fussy the rest of the day, or days following? Could he catch a fever? What sort of post care did you take for your baby?

I'm ignoring all the other crap here, but I'd like to know - do you have to request this in advance at the hospital? Of your OB? I want to get it done but don't know how to go about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My baby will be 14 days old. Will he be fussy the rest of the day, or days following? Could he catch a fever? What sort of post care did you take for your baby?

I'm ignoring all the other crap here, but I'd like to know - do you have to request this in advance at the hospital? Of your OB? I want to get it done but don't know how to go about it.

Sure, a discussion of the actual medical benefits and what the international medical community (not just an AAP task force) thinks about circumcision is crap. I guess you have to put your head in the sand if you want to continue this practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the American Academy of Pediatrics
Policy Statement
Circumcision Policy Statement
TASK FORCE ON CIRCUMCISION
ABSTRACT

Male circumcision is a common procedure, generally performed during the newborn period in the United States. In 2007, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) formed a multidisciplinary task force of AAP members and other stakeholders to evaluate the recent evidence on male circumcision and update the Academy’s 1999 recommendations in this area. Evaluation of current evidence indicates that the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks and that the procedure’s benefits justify access to this procedure for families who choose it. Specific benefits identified included prevention of urinary tract infections, penile cancer, and transmission of some sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has endorsed this statement.

Thank you for posting this. This is a personal decision made by parents for various reasons, not the least of which is that it has been identified as beneficial by the AAP. If you disagree with this choice, I trust you won't make it for your own child. Your proselytizing is not appreciated and more than likely a waste of your time and ours as readers. It is also incredibly offensive to parents who made the decision to circumcise based on sound medical advice or religious beliefs (I happen to fall into both categories). This should be a forum where parents support other parents and constructively discuss issues that arise doing one of the hardest jobs on the planet and when you use it to judge and condemn others, you undermine what could be an incredibly valuable resource. What a shame.

+1

The posts switching male for female are not relevant. There is no comparison between male and female circumcision. Both the AAP and the WHO highlight the benefits of male circumcision.
Medical studies back this up
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/malecircumcision/

I circumcised my two sons for religious reasons and for the health benefits. It was a rational choice, not based on tradition/religious reasons alone. If the medical evidence demonstrated that it caused harm I would not have done it.

So how do you explain that none of the European governments recommends routine circumcision? Are they not up on the latest research regarding the medical benefits that justify altering an infant's natural body without his consent?

Just admit that the real reason for the practice in this country is cultural bias. Here is a recent commentary, published just last month on the website of the AAP:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2013/03/12/peds.2012-2896.abstract

("The other claimed health benefits, including protection against HIV/AIDS, genital herpes, genital warts, and penile cancer, are questionable, weak, and likely to have little public health relevance in a Western context, and they do not represent compelling reasons for surgery before boys are old enough to decide for themselves.")

They try to save money because of universal healthcare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My baby will be 14 days old. Will he be fussy the rest of the day, or days following? Could he catch a fever? What sort of post care did you take for your baby?

I'm ignoring all the other crap here, but I'd like to know - do you have to request this in advance at the hospital? Of your OB? I want to get it done but don't know how to go about it.

Sure, a discussion of the actual medical benefits and what the international medical community (not just an AAP task force) thinks about circumcision is crap. I guess you have to put your head in the sand if you want to continue this practice.

Perhaps you didn't understand me the first time. I don't care what you think. OP, can you give more info about this, please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: On another note, if circumcision really caused enormous problems for men and their sexual abilities do you really think men would allow it to continue?

How would they know what they're missing? IME circumcised and uncircumcised men have very different experiences and everyone thinks their experience is the normal one--because it is, for them. Just cause cut men can still get off doesn't mean they're not missing out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the American Academy of Pediatrics
Policy Statement
Circumcision Policy Statement
TASK FORCE ON CIRCUMCISION
ABSTRACT

Male circumcision is a common procedure, generally performed during the newborn period in the United States. In 2007, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) formed a multidisciplinary task force of AAP members and other stakeholders to evaluate the recent evidence on male circumcision and update the Academy’s 1999 recommendations in this area. Evaluation of current evidence indicates that the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks and that the procedure’s benefits justify access to this procedure for families who choose it. Specific benefits identified included prevention of urinary tract infections, penile cancer, and transmission of some sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists has endorsed this statement.

Thank you for posting this. This is a personal decision made by parents for various reasons, not the least of which is that it has been identified as beneficial by the AAP. If you disagree with this choice, I trust you won't make it for your own child. Your proselytizing is not appreciated and more than likely a waste of your time and ours as readers. It is also incredibly offensive to parents who made the decision to circumcise based on sound medical advice or religious beliefs (I happen to fall into both categories). This should be a forum where parents support other parents and constructively discuss issues that arise doing one of the hardest jobs on the planet and when you use it to judge and condemn others, you undermine what could be an incredibly valuable resource. What a shame.

+1

The posts switching male for female are not relevant. There is no comparison between male and female circumcision. Both the AAP and the WHO highlight the benefits of male circumcision.
Medical studies back this up
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/malecircumcision/

I circumcised my two sons for religious reasons and for the health benefits. It was a rational choice, not based on tradition/religious reasons alone. If the medical evidence demonstrated that it caused harm I would not have done it.

So how do you explain that none of the European governments recommends routine circumcision? Are they not up on the latest research regarding the medical benefits that justify altering an infant's natural body without his consent?

Just admit that the real reason for the practice in this country is cultural bias. Here is a recent commentary, published just last month on the website of the AAP:

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2013/03/12/peds.2012-2896.abstract

("The other claimed health benefits, including protection against HIV/AIDS, genital herpes, genital warts, and penile cancer, are questionable, weak, and likely to have little public health relevance in a Western context, and they do not represent compelling reasons for surgery before boys are old enough to decide for themselves.")

They try to save money because of universal healthcare.

Ah, yeah, I forgot about that straw man argument... Really, you think doctors from ALL western countries BUT the US are biased and making bogus medical arguments about this because of the financial constraints of universal healthcare? Are you Republican?

And if cost were indeed a factor in their reasoning, then I would say: if the relatively small financial cost of circumcision isn't justified by its medical benefits, then those medical benefits don't justify performing an irreversible body-altering surgical procedure on an infant.

[Anonymous]

Really -- so what about all those Muslims in the rest of the world who also circumcized and their doctors?

Please give it up. There are some things that are legitimately left to families to decide -- and this is one of them.

And, yes, I am against female genital mutilation because it is a completely different and much much much more drastic procedure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Really -- so what about all those Muslims in the rest of the world who also circumcized and their doctors?

Please give it up. There are some things that are legitimately left to families to decide -- and this is one of them.

And, yes, I am against female genital mutilation because it is a completely different and much much much more drastic procedure.

It is the same damn thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Really -- so what about all those Muslims in the rest of the world who also circumcized and their doctors?

Please give it up. There are some things that are legitimately left to families to decide -- and this is one of them.

And, yes, I am against female genital mutilation because it is a completely different and much much much more drastic procedure.

It is the same damn thing.

Exactly. Just because it's culturally accepted to mutilate a boy's genitals doesn't mean it's not genital mutilation and pretty disgusting and wrong if you're not part of the accepting culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My baby will be 14 days old. Will he be fussy the rest of the day, or days following? Could he catch a fever? What sort of post care did you take for your baby?

I'm ignoring all the other crap here, but I'd like to know - do you have to request this in advance at the hospital? Of your OB? I want to get it done but don't know how to go about it.

Are you currently pregnant? Or are you a new parent and chose not to circumcise at the hospital, but have since changed your mind?

If you are currently pregnant, they will usually ask you if you want it done before your son is discharged. MY hospital told us that if we did not want it done before discharge, they would usually make you wait until the boy is a year old before doing it. That policy might vary by hospital/doctor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My baby will be 14 days old. Will he be fussy the rest of the day, or days following? Could he catch a fever? What sort of post care did you take for your baby?

I'm ignoring all the other crap here, but I'd like to know - do you have to request this in advance at the hospital? Of your OB? I want to get it done but don't know how to go about it.

Are you currently pregnant? Or are you a new parent and chose not to circumcise at the hospital, but have since changed your mind?

If you are currently pregnant, they will usually ask you if you want it done before your son is discharged. MY hospital told us that if we did not want it done before discharge, they would usually make you wait until the boy is a year old before doing it. That policy might vary by hospital/doctor.

Currently pregnant, and have been wondering about this for a while. Thanks for the info!