Is SpaceX really worth $1.75 Trillion?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't have much impact on most indexes due to a small percentage of shares being available to the public. Some funds like the S&P 500 don't initially allow an IPO into the index, as they have to show profitability over at least one or two quarters, or something like that.


Normally true but the rules for indexes were changed for SPCX.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The other thing that drove the price up on opening day and the next few days is Nasdaq changed the rules on SpaceX requiring various index funds to stuff this stock into their funds at three times more than normal. So we all bought this stock indirectly in our 401Ks/TSP through these index funds where it can’t be sold. Genius for insiders. Not so much for the SEC.


Is that correct? It's not in C/I/G/F to TSP right? I think it's in S fund. Same with 401k, it's not in S&p500 yet

The monthly prospectus for the TSP funds have not been released yet but it will be in the C fund by the end of the month.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The other thing that drove the price up on opening day and the next few days is Nasdaq changed the rules on SpaceX requiring various index funds to stuff this stock into their funds at three times more than normal. So we all bought this stock indirectly in our 401Ks/TSP through these index funds where it can’t be sold. Genius for insiders. Not so much for the SEC.


Is that correct? It's not in C/I/G/F to TSP right? I think it's in S fund. Same with 401k, it's not in S&p500 yet

The monthly prospectus for the TSP funds have not been released yet but it will be in the C fund by the end of the month.


I don’t think so but time will tell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The other thing that drove the price up on opening day and the next few days is Nasdaq changed the rules on SpaceX requiring various index funds to stuff this stock into their funds at three times more than normal. So we all bought this stock indirectly in our 401Ks/TSP through these index funds where it can’t be sold. Genius for insiders. Not so much for the SEC.


Not true.

Nasdaq included SpaceX in Nasdaq 100. It didn't require any funds to hold it. That's the fund's choice.

S&P did not add SpaceX to S&P 500

If you choose to but Nasdaq 100 or QQQ in your portfolio, you want stocks like SpaceX.


https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/12/spacex-ipo-sp-500-index-funds-investors.html

https://fortune.com/2026/06/13/spacex-stock-index-funds-passive-investing-401k-nasdaq-100-russell/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Shouldn't have much impact on most indexes due to a small percentage of shares being available to the public. Some funds like the S&P 500 don't initially allow an IPO into the index, as they have to show profitability over at least one or two quarters, or something like that.


Normally true but the rules for indexes were changed for SPCX.


S&P 500 did not change rules. Nasdaq 100 did.
Anonymous
Obviously SPCX is grossly overvalued. It will certainly crash over the next year. But it is included in a lot of index funds, so many people will be exposed.

The AI bubble is gigantic. Still have OpenAI and Anthropic IPOs to get through. Founders and investment banks are going to pump. These three companies alone represent $4 trillion, and there is so much financial engineering attached to these companies.

The goal now is to unload to retail investors and bank the gains. In my opinion, the AI bubble is like 2007 leading up to 2008. It's going to be a big problem when it bursts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Obviously SPCX is grossly overvalued. It will certainly crash over the next year. But it is included in a lot of index funds, so many people will be exposed.

The AI bubble is gigantic. Still have OpenAI and Anthropic IPOs to get through. Founders and investment banks are going to pump. These three companies alone represent $4 trillion, and there is so much financial engineering attached to these companies.

The goal now is to unload to retail investors and bank the gains. In my opinion, the AI bubble is like 2007 leading up to 2008. It's going to be a big problem when it bursts.


what's the target dates for those? it will undoubtfully burst at some point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Obviously SPCX is grossly overvalued. It will certainly crash over the next year. But it is included in a lot of index funds, so many people will be exposed.

The AI bubble is gigantic. Still have OpenAI and Anthropic IPOs to get through. Founders and investment banks are going to pump. These three companies alone represent $4 trillion, and there is so much financial engineering attached to these companies.

The goal now is to unload to retail investors and bank the gains. In my opinion, the AI bubble is like 2007 leading up to 2008. It's going to be a big problem when it bursts.


I think the similarities are more like 1999 right before the dot com bubble burst. All
a company had to do then was put dot com in their name and the stock exploded. No different than having a company now involved in something related to AI. And there were also a bunch of huge IPOs in 1999 just before the market crashed. Retail was once again holding the bag.
Anonymous
The most dangerous words heard on Wall Street:

“But this time it’s different”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Obviously SPCX is grossly overvalued. It will certainly crash over the next year. But it is included in a lot of index funds, so many people will be exposed.

The AI bubble is gigantic. Still have OpenAI and Anthropic IPOs to get through. Founders and investment banks are going to pump. These three companies alone represent $4 trillion, and there is so much financial engineering attached to these companies.

The goal now is to unload to retail investors and bank the gains. In my opinion, the AI bubble is like 2007 leading up to 2008. It's going to be a big problem when it bursts.


Haha. Ok - keep justifying sitting on the sidelines. It’s so funny how all these people freak out about a “bubble” while the S&P 500 is up like 30-35% over the last year. Oh no we have a “crash” and it sets us back a year. What a joke.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously SPCX is grossly overvalued. It will certainly crash over the next year. But it is included in a lot of index funds, so many people will be exposed.

The AI bubble is gigantic. Still have OpenAI and Anthropic IPOs to get through. Founders and investment banks are going to pump. These three companies alone represent $4 trillion, and there is so much financial engineering attached to these companies.

The goal now is to unload to retail investors and bank the gains. In my opinion, the AI bubble is like 2007 leading up to 2008. It's going to be a big problem when it bursts.


Haha. Ok - keep justifying sitting on the sidelines. It’s so funny how all these people freak out about a “bubble” while the S&P 500 is up like 30-35% over the last year. Oh no we have a “crash” and it sets us back a year. What a joke.


You must be young like in 30s or early 40s.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Obviously SPCX is grossly overvalued. It will certainly crash over the next year. But it is included in a lot of index funds, so many people will be exposed.

The AI bubble is gigantic. Still have OpenAI and Anthropic IPOs to get through. Founders and investment banks are going to pump. These three companies alone represent $4 trillion, and there is so much financial engineering attached to these companies.

The goal now is to unload to retail investors and bank the gains. In my opinion, the AI bubble is like 2007 leading up to 2008. It's going to be a big problem when it bursts.


Haha. Ok - keep justifying sitting on the sidelines. It’s so funny how all these people freak out about a “bubble” while the S&P 500 is up like 30-35% over the last year. Oh no we have a “crash” and it sets us back a year. What a joke.


You must be young like in 30s or early 40s.


Mid 40s. But I’ve looked at a historical chart of the S&P 500 and understand the power of dollar cost averaging.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The most dangerous words heard on Wall Street:

“But this time it’s different”


Exactly. The S&P 500 will continue to steadily rise over the long term with drops along the way. And it easily outpaces inflation.

It’s not worth fooling around with individual stocks when you have that option.
Anonymous
Apparently not. Now it’s worth $2.44 Trillion. Insanity!
Anonymous
Very funny how consistently most of this forum has been proven wrong.
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