Is there an official T10 list?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi all, my DD is a sophmore in HS so we're just starting to truly think about this college application process (but no, we are not only now starting to think about having a well-rounded kid with a variety of interests, that's been her whole life).

But I'm new to reading this sub, and I see lots of people talk about T10 and T5. Are these the top 10 schools according to US News & World Report? Or where is the "official" list of T10 colleges and universities for undergrad?

OP, you may appreciate this other thread:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1300946.page

It's hard to follow the threads on here when people reference "Top 20" but are talking about up to 40 different colleges. Why are there 40 different colleges that people refer to as the "top 20"?

So are these the "40 colleges" that DCUM means when they reference the "Top 20" that Lazlo is going to or dreaming of?

Princeton, MIT, Harvard, Stanford, Yale, UChicago, Duke, Johns Hopkins, Northwestern, UPenn, Calltech, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Columbia, UC Berkeley, Rice, UCLA, Vanderbilt, Carnegie Mellon, U Michigan, Notre Dame, WashU, UVA, Georgetown, UC San Diego, Emory, UNC Chapel Hill, UW, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona, Bowdoin, Wellesley, Claremont Mckenna, USC, UF. U of T (Austin), NYU, Tufts, UI Urbana-Champaign, UM Wisconsin

It’s Larlo, not Lazlo. The fictional/hypothetical DCUM kids are Larlo, his sister Larla, and their non-binary sibling Larlx.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi all, my DD is a sophmore in HS so we're just starting to truly think about this college application process (but no, we are not only now starting to think about having a well-rounded kid with a variety of interests, that's been her whole life).

But I'm new to reading this sub, and I see lots of people talk about T10 and T5. Are these the top 10 schools according to US News & World Report? Or where is the "official" list of T10 colleges and universities for undergrad?

The fact that you are asking this question indicates you are going about the college search process incorrectly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:wait i didnt know rankings were supposed to be about how schools manage yield with ed? instead of academic bandwith and outcomes? seems like housewife banter to me

Exactly. All the admissions data is irrelevant to the college’s academic quality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The market speaks, the schools with the MOST APPLICATIONS and therefore the most desirable are:

1. UCLA
2. UC San Diego
3. UC Berkeley
4. UC Irvine
5. NYU
6. UC Santa Barbara
7. Northeastern
8. UC Davis
9. Michigan
10. USC (California)

No games, no semantics. This is where kids are applying in droves.

70% are public schools with a lower price tag, particularly for Californians (most populous state in the US) applying in-state with one application to serve all UCs.

Yes, that’s what people actually want.

Excellent schools with nice weather at an affordable price.

Oh no, and they make it easy to apply?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:wait i didnt know rankings were supposed to be about how schools manage yield with ed? instead of academic bandwith and outcomes? seems like housewife banter to me

Exactly. All the admissions data is irrelevant to the college’s academic quality.

Oh no now you’ve triggered the lecture about how ultra selectively means all the kids are superior and you don’t want your kid to attend a school where some of the students are not super elite.

They have to be with their genius peers.

[Anonymous]

top 10 most commonly thought (by all the organizations that list universities) are: (in no particular order):

HPYMS (the top 5) and then (again in no particular order):

JHU
NU
Duke
Penn
Chicago

Now whether these are actually the best universities, take the best/strongest kids, are the hardest to gain admittance to or offer anything resembling the best undergraduate experience can be debated endlessly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:top 10 most commonly thought (by all the organizations that list universities) are: (in no particular order):

HPYMS (the top 5) and then (again in no particular order):

JHU
NU
Duke
Penn
Chicago

Now whether these are actually the best universities, take the best/strongest kids, are the hardest to gain admittance to or offer anything resembling the best undergraduate experience can be debated endlessly.

Penn looks like the odd duck in that list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People are usually referring to the US News list. But it’s worth keeping in mind that there is no definitive list. The best school for you is not necessarily the school ranked highest by someone on the internet.

This.

Also, there are usually separate lists for different categories of college (example: small liberal arts colleges - SLACS) and for different kinds of programs (example: nursing, engineering).

[Anonymous]

There is too much top tier student demand globally for there only to be a "top 10".

So if you mean "top school that students generally are most interested in" that get 30K+ applications and employers love, and have low admission rates/high stats, the list is:

Top Schools:
Ivy Plus + 10 private "New Ivies" (forbes) + 10 public "New Ivies" (forbes) + UCLA/Berkeley (since they don't accept SAT and weren't eligible for "new Ivies") + top 3-4 SLACs (WASP) + Air Force/Naval Academies.

That's it. Those are the "top" schools to start considering and vetting.

[Anonymous]

HYPSM
Caltech
Columbia
Penn
Chicago
Duke / Northwestern

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HYPSM
Caltech
Columbia
Penn
Chicago
Duke / Northwestern

Wrong. Northwestern is not part of this group. Look at what the Ivy League considers its peers.

[Anonymous]

The best top 10 list is obviously Niche. Because apparently both my kids go to top 10 schools. Clearly the best list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is too much top tier student demand globally for there only to be a "top 10".

So if you mean "top school that students generally are most interested in" that get 30K+ applications and employers love, and have low admission rates/high stats, the list is:

Top Schools:
Ivy Plus + 10 private "New Ivies" (forbes) + 10 public "New Ivies" (forbes) + UCLA/Berkeley (since they don't accept SAT and weren't eligible for "new Ivies") + top 3-4 SLACs (WASP) + Air Force/Naval Academies.

That's it. Those are the "top" schools to start considering and vetting.

new ivies LOL WTF so cringy GTFOOH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is too much top tier student demand globally for there only to be a "top 10".

So if you mean "top school that students generally are most interested in" that get 30K+ applications and employers love, and have low admission rates/high stats, the list is:

Top Schools:
Ivy Plus + 10 private "New Ivies" (forbes) + 10 public "New Ivies" (forbes) + UCLA/Berkeley (since they don't accept SAT and weren't eligible for "new Ivies") + top 3-4 SLACs (WASP) + Air Force/Naval Academies.

That's it. Those are the "top" schools to start considering and vetting.

You are missing Northeastern. It checks all the boxes - 'get 30K+ applications and employers love, and have low admission rates/high stats', and beat the heck out of most of the new ivies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HYPSM
Caltech
Columbia
Penn
Chicago
Duke / Northwestern

Wrong. Northwestern is not part of this group. Look at what the Ivy League considers its peers.

Isn't it part of USNWR T10?