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Anonymous wrote:Basic take on tiers of private schools:

If $70k/year is a significant burden to you and you don't qualify for financial aid, your kid is almost certainly better off going to public school - even compared to a "TT" private where they would be one of the poor/unconnected kids - and having you use the ~$1.5M or so with interest that you saved to buy them their first house/apartment and start them off with a healthy savings account.

If $70k/year is something you can afford easily, going to Trevor or CGPS or Calhoun or LREI or Dwight or whatever is not likely to be *worse* for them then public school, and having a nice clean building with small class sizes and somebody to call about every little problem is a nice luxury.

Honestly I wouldn’t even put Trevor next to CGPS or LREI. Those have at least served long standing niches and communities. Trevor is a joke given how many better 3T schools there are close by.

I wasn't trying to make any sort of point about Trevor specifically but simply to say that even <insert whatever school you think is particularly mediocre here> will be fine for your kid if you have enough money not to care about the tuition.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, an old fashioned DCUM Every Thread Turns Into An Argument About Which Specific Order 20 Schools Belong In.

Trevor is outside that top 20, so don’t worry about it.

What are the Top 20?

HM Dalton Collegiate Trinity Chapin Spence Brearley St Ann’s St B Buckley St David’s Grace Friends Packer Nightingale Allen-Stevenson Fieldston Columbia Grammar Poly Prep Marymount SH

That’s 21. And there are others better than Trevor by a mile. It’s bad and if that’s your only private option you should go public, invest the money in the S&P, and give your kid a few million to buy a condo when he or she is an adult.

I've definitely heard way more negative commentary about CGPS than Trevor. Why would you say it's a "bad" school? What makes it bad?

People are negative because they’re anti semitic and use code words like new money or flashy when describing the community. It has a much more prestigious history, generous alumni base, and time tested programs. Matriculation bears that out.

I'm Jewish and I'll say it - CGPS is a bad school. My kid went there and we pulled her out. All privates are full of new money but the CGPS crowd stands out for being the least grounded and snootiest. FA kids were bullied. Non-white kids were subjected to racism. This was all within the last 5-7 years.

That doesn’t mean it’s worse than Trevor. Academically and socially CGPS is better. Nice families with a head on their shoulder are scooped up by the better schools. Those that cannot behave for a simple interview get shafted to schools like Trevor.

I don't personally know what Trevor is like but I don't think, "socially" it can get worse than CGPS. My acquaintances that go to Trevor are plenty nice and nothing like the CGPS families.

If talking about how Trevor is up and coming and now 2T is your idea of an appropriate conversation 50% of the time, then the Trevor community is great for you. They’re obsessed

Trevor clearly pissed in someone’s Cheerios.

No one is arguing it is HM or Trinity. But it isn’t a crap school. I know a bunch of nice families and smart kids who very specifically chose it. Several of whom chose it over Columbia. Though I think there is a lot of overlap.

Good job putting your cape on for Trevor. Even if better than CGPS, that’s 20 schools listed that are better and that list forgets many better options. Trevor is such a waste of money it should be criminal. Just go to one of the better UWS publics and give your kid the tuition dollars. They’ll thank you later.

So in your opinion is Speyer better than Trevor? I noticed you didn't include it in your list.

Why are you begging for information from this opinionated clown? You are acting like they are an expert. Would you take guidance from someone who speaks like that? Really? Personally, I would generally do the opposite to stay away from people like that. Not that I 100% disagree with them. But their tone is uncalled for.

Go ask if Trevor pissed in my Cheerios a second time. You can be as nasty as you want when rightfully pointing out that spending close to a million dollars K-12 to attend a scam like Trevor is a horrible idea

Referring to a school as a "scam" is not OK. Please go away. I am a different poster and also have zero relationship to Trevor. And I would feel this way about even the worst school out there, and Trevor is far from the worst.

It is sad seeing yet another DCUM discussion derailed by someone with anger issues. I am very curious where your snowflake goes to school.

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Anonymous wrote:Basic take on tiers of private schools:

If $70k/year is a significant burden to you and you don't qualify for financial aid, your kid is almost certainly better off going to public school - even compared to a "TT" private where they would be one of the poor/unconnected kids - and having you use the ~$1.5M or so with interest that you saved to buy them their first house/apartment and start them off with a healthy savings account.

If $70k/year is something you can afford easily, going to Trevor or CGPS or Calhoun or LREI or Dwight or whatever is not likely to be *worse* for them then public school, and having a nice clean building with small class sizes and somebody to call about every little problem is a nice luxury.

Honestly I wouldn’t even put Trevor next to CGPS or LREI. Those have at least served long standing niches and communities. Trevor is a joke given how many better 3T schools there are close by.

I wasn't trying to make any sort of point about Trevor specifically but simply to say that even <insert whatever school you think is particularly mediocre here> will be fine for your kid if you have enough money not to care about the tuition.

The problem is, people with that sort of money get into TTs and 2Ts so long as the kid is passable and the parents aren’t jerks. Schools like Trevor attract the least desirable applicant families who fit the “enough money not to care” criteria

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Someone's child didn't get into Trevor and they are bitter. Or they got beat up by a Trevor kid. Or a Trevor kid beat them in a sport. Ignore them.

I cannot imagine having so much hatred towards a school, or anything for that matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, an old fashioned DCUM Every Thread Turns Into An Argument About Which Specific Order 20 Schools Belong In.

Trevor is outside that top 20, so don’t worry about it.

What are the Top 20?

HM Dalton Collegiate Trinity Chapin Spence Brearley St Ann’s St B Buckley St David’s Grace Friends Packer Nightingale Allen-Stevenson Fieldston Columbia Grammar Poly Prep Marymount SH

That’s 21. And there are others better than Trevor by a mile. It’s bad and if that’s your only private option you should go public, invest the money in the S&P, and give your kid a few million to buy a condo when he or she is an adult.

I've definitely heard way more negative commentary about CGPS than Trevor. Why would you say it's a "bad" school? What makes it bad?

People are negative because they’re anti semitic and use code words like new money or flashy when describing the community. It has a much more prestigious history, generous alumni base, and time tested programs. Matriculation bears that out.

I'm Jewish and I'll say it - CGPS is a bad school. My kid went there and we pulled her out. All privates are full of new money but the CGPS crowd stands out for being the least grounded and snootiest. FA kids were bullied. Non-white kids were subjected to racism. This was all within the last 5-7 years.

That doesn’t mean it’s worse than Trevor. Academically and socially CGPS is better. Nice families with a head on their shoulder are scooped up by the better schools. Those that cannot behave for a simple interview get shafted to schools like Trevor.

I don't personally know what Trevor is like but I don't think, "socially" it can get worse than CGPS. My acquaintances that go to Trevor are plenty nice and nothing like the CGPS families.

If talking about how Trevor is up and coming and now 2T is your idea of an appropriate conversation 50% of the time, then the Trevor community is great for you. They’re obsessed

Trevor clearly pissed in someone’s Cheerios.

No one is arguing it is HM or Trinity. But it isn’t a crap school. I know a bunch of nice families and smart kids who very specifically chose it. Several of whom chose it over Columbia. Though I think there is a lot of overlap.

Good job putting your cape on for Trevor. Even if better than CGPS, that’s 20 schools listed that are better and that list forgets many better options. Trevor is such a waste of money it should be criminal. Just go to one of the better UWS publics and give your kid the tuition dollars. They’ll thank you later.

So in your opinion is Speyer better than Trevor? I noticed you didn't include it in your list.

Why are you begging for information from this opinionated clown? You are acting like they are an expert. Would you take guidance from someone who speaks like that? Really? Personally, I would generally do the opposite to stay away from people like that. Not that I 100% disagree with them. But their tone is uncalled for.

Go ask if Trevor pissed in my Cheerios a second time. You can be as nasty as you want when rightfully pointing out that spending close to a million dollars K-12 to attend a scam like Trevor is a horrible idea

Referring to a school as a "scam" is not OK. Please go away. I am a different poster and also have zero relationship to Trevor. And I would feel this way about even the worst school out there, and Trevor is far from the worst.

It is sad seeing yet another DCUM discussion derailed by someone with anger issues. I am very curious where your snowflake goes to school.

A boys K-8/9 then top BS.

It’s a “scam” when you have bad academics and charge a fortune, and then fear monger and racialize nearby publics so parents don’t consider them. If Trevor isn’t a scam then you probably have a PhD from Trump University

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Anonymous wrote:Basic take on tiers of private schools:

If $70k/year is a significant burden to you and you don't qualify for financial aid, your kid is almost certainly better off going to public school - even compared to a "TT" private where they would be one of the poor/unconnected kids - and having you use the ~$1.5M or so with interest that you saved to buy them their first house/apartment and start them off with a healthy savings account.

If $70k/year is something you can afford easily, going to Trevor or CGPS or Calhoun or LREI or Dwight or whatever is not likely to be *worse* for them then public school, and having a nice clean building with small class sizes and somebody to call about every little problem is a nice luxury.

Honestly I wouldn’t even put Trevor next to CGPS or LREI. Those have at least served long standing niches and communities. Trevor is a joke given how many better 3T schools there are close by.

I wasn't trying to make any sort of point about Trevor specifically but simply to say that even <insert whatever school you think is particularly mediocre here> will be fine for your kid if you have enough money not to care about the tuition.

The problem is, people with that sort of money get into TTs and 2Ts so long as the kid is passable and the parents aren’t jerks. Schools like Trevor attract the least desirable applicant families who fit the “enough money not to care” criteria

Not really. It actually has a lot of normal, down-to-earth families who don't want the drama of TT schools and want to avoid the opinionated jerks like the one who has derailed this thread. Particularly at the HS level. I actually do agree that for elementary I would probably pick PS9, 87, 199, etc.

Check out their 2026 IG page. It isn't TT but it is pretty good - Princeton and a bunch of Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, etc. I'm sure the snobs here will criticize it because it isn't all HYPS but that is not trash.

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Anonymous forums inevitably attacks trolls. The anti-Trevor person reminds me of an anti-Scarsdale/anti-suburb poster on a different forum who claimed everyone living in the suburbs is dull and dumb while NYC and TT schools represent the epicenter of intellectual elite. Whatever...

FWIW, my 2 cent is that Trevor is a perfectly fine school So is Speyer.

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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous forums inevitably attacks trolls. The anti-Trevor person reminds me of an anti-Scarsdale/anti-suburb poster on a different forum who claimed everyone living in the suburbs is dull and dumb while NYC and TT schools represent the epicenter of intellectual elite. Whatever...

FWIW, my 2 cent is that Trevor is a perfectly fine school So is Speyer.

Great analogy. Those people are relentless and like to act like they are so impressive and important yet spend their valuable time spewing hatred and rage on an anonymous message board. So sad.

Everyone runs their own race and has different resources, priorities, etc. It is helpful to know the pros and cons of a school. But they can be presented in a measured, reasonable way that does not totally insult the families at any school. People who get their jollies out of bringing others down are pariahs. People often choose to send their kids to seemingly less desirable schools to avoid people like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Basic take on tiers of private schools:

If $70k/year is a significant burden to you and you don't qualify for financial aid, your kid is almost certainly better off going to public school - even compared to a "TT" private where they would be one of the poor/unconnected kids - and having you use the ~$1.5M or so with interest that you saved to buy them their first house/apartment and start them off with a healthy savings account.

If $70k/year is something you can afford easily, going to Trevor or CGPS or Calhoun or LREI or Dwight or whatever is not likely to be *worse* for them then public school, and having a nice clean building with small class sizes and somebody to call about every little problem is a nice luxury.

Honestly I wouldn’t even put Trevor next to CGPS or LREI. Those have at least served long standing niches and communities. Trevor is a joke given how many better 3T schools there are close by.

I wasn't trying to make any sort of point about Trevor specifically but simply to say that even <insert whatever school you think is particularly mediocre here> will be fine for your kid if you have enough money not to care about the tuition.

The problem is, people with that sort of money get into TTs and 2Ts so long as the kid is passable and the parents aren’t jerks. Schools like Trevor attract the least desirable applicant families who fit the “enough money not to care” criteria

Not really. It actually has a lot of normal, down-to-earth families who don't want the drama of TT schools and want to avoid the opinionated jerks like the one who has derailed this thread. Particularly at the HS level. I actually do agree that for elementary I would probably pick PS9, 87, 199, etc.

Check out their 2026 IG page. It isn't TT but it is pretty good - Princeton and a bunch of Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, etc. I'm sure the snobs here will criticize it because it isn't all HYPS but that is not trash.

The cross admits of a TT and Trevor-like schools go with the TT 99% of the time. If you knew how first choice letters work and brokering applicants, you’d know this. Trevor has a TON of flashy jerks in sports cars and houses out East too. They have worse pedigrees and personalities and can’t get into a TT because of that.

Got it, a couple good college acceptances. Go compare the median of Trevor with Trinity. lol

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Anonymous wrote:I can't fathom why you would pay $600k for K - 8 and then send your kid to a SHS. Most of the value of a TT school is in high school.

I would rather my kid get the polish and small class sizes of private school when they are young (and avoid public middle which is a shitshow). They can move to SH and not compete with legacies/donors.

If you had any knowledge of how college admissions work, you would not say this. Also, there are many excellent public middle schools. My kids went to Booker T on the UWS and it was fantastic.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't fathom why you would pay $600k for K - 8 and then send your kid to a SHS. Most of the value of a TT school is in high school.

I would rather my kid get the polish and small class sizes of private school when they are young (and avoid public middle which is a shitshow). They can move to SH and not compete with legacies/donors.

If you had any knowledge of how college admissions work, you would not say this. Also, there are many excellent public middle schools. My kids went to Booker T on the UWS and it was fantastic.

What's wrong with this?

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Anonymous wrote:Basic take on tiers of private schools:

If $70k/year is a significant burden to you and you don't qualify for financial aid, your kid is almost certainly better off going to public school - even compared to a "TT" private where they would be one of the poor/unconnected kids - and having you use the ~$1.5M or so with interest that you saved to buy them their first house/apartment and start them off with a healthy savings account.

If $70k/year is something you can afford easily, going to Trevor or CGPS or Calhoun or LREI or Dwight or whatever is not likely to be *worse* for them then public school, and having a nice clean building with small class sizes and somebody to call about every little problem is a nice luxury.

Honestly I wouldn’t even put Trevor next to CGPS or LREI. Those have at least served long standing niches and communities. Trevor is a joke given how many better 3T schools there are close by.

I wasn't trying to make any sort of point about Trevor specifically but simply to say that even <insert whatever school you think is particularly mediocre here> will be fine for your kid if you have enough money not to care about the tuition.

The problem is, people with that sort of money get into TTs and 2Ts so long as the kid is passable and the parents aren’t jerks. Schools like Trevor attract the least desirable applicant families who fit the “enough money not to care” criteria

Not really. It actually has a lot of normal, down-to-earth families who don't want the drama of TT schools and want to avoid the opinionated jerks like the one who has derailed this thread. Particularly at the HS level. I actually do agree that for elementary I would probably pick PS9, 87, 199, etc.

Check out their 2026 IG page. It isn't TT but it is pretty good - Princeton and a bunch of Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, etc. I'm sure the snobs here will criticize it because it isn't all HYPS but that is not trash.

The cross admits of a TT and Trevor-like schools go with the TT 99% of the time. If you knew how first choice letters work and brokering applicants, you’d know this. Trevor has a TON of flashy jerks in sports cars and houses out East too. They have worse pedigrees and personalities and can’t get into a TT because of that.

Got it, a couple good college acceptances. Go compare the median of Trevor with Trinity. lol

Did anyone say Trevor is better than Trinity? Nope. Please just stop. You are a pathetic child. You don't like Trevor. Got it. Move on. So sad. You are kind of actually making me like it more. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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The sweet spot is public k-5 or k-8 then private for HS. Lots of great public elementary schools. A fair number of good public middle schools. SHSAT schools are big and chaotic. Very few decent non-SHSAT schools (they exist but the odds of getting in are tiny).

This is assuming that Mamdani doesn't blow up the public schools. TBD.

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Anonymous wrote:Basic take on tiers of private schools:

If $70k/year is a significant burden to you and you don't qualify for financial aid, your kid is almost certainly better off going to public school - even compared to a "TT" private where they would be one of the poor/unconnected kids - and having you use the ~$1.5M or so with interest that you saved to buy them their first house/apartment and start them off with a healthy savings account.

If $70k/year is something you can afford easily, going to Trevor or CGPS or Calhoun or LREI or Dwight or whatever is not likely to be *worse* for them then public school, and having a nice clean building with small class sizes and somebody to call about every little problem is a nice luxury.

Honestly I wouldn’t even put Trevor next to CGPS or LREI. Those have at least served long standing niches and communities. Trevor is a joke given how many better 3T schools there are close by.

I wasn't trying to make any sort of point about Trevor specifically but simply to say that even <insert whatever school you think is particularly mediocre here> will be fine for your kid if you have enough money not to care about the tuition.

The problem is, people with that sort of money get into TTs and 2Ts so long as the kid is passable and the parents aren’t jerks. Schools like Trevor attract the least desirable applicant families who fit the “enough money not to care” criteria

Not really. It actually has a lot of normal, down-to-earth families who don't want the drama of TT schools and want to avoid the opinionated jerks like the one who has derailed this thread. Particularly at the HS level. I actually do agree that for elementary I would probably pick PS9, 87, 199, etc.

Check out their 2026 IG page. It isn't TT but it is pretty good - Princeton and a bunch of Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, etc. I'm sure the snobs here will criticize it because it isn't all HYPS but that is not trash.

The cross admits of a TT and Trevor-like schools go with the TT 99% of the time. If you knew how first choice letters work and brokering applicants, you’d know this. Trevor has a TON of flashy jerks in sports cars and houses out East too. They have worse pedigrees and personalities and can’t get into a TT because of that.

Got it, a couple good college acceptances. Go compare the median of Trevor with Trinity. lol

Did anyone say Trevor is better than Trinity? Nope. Please just stop. You are a pathetic child. You don't like Trevor. Got it. Move on. So sad. You are kind of actually making me like it more. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Actually, some posters say Trevor is better because you can avoid TT competition. The pathetic children are those who go to Trevor.

Go ahead, spend over a million with expected tuition increases on Trevor. An idiot is swindled every day. They’ll gladly take your money and don’t have a line out the door like the 2Ts

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Anonymous wrote:Basic take on tiers of private schools:

If $70k/year is a significant burden to you and you don't qualify for financial aid, your kid is almost certainly better off going to public school - even compared to a "TT" private where they would be one of the poor/unconnected kids - and having you use the ~$1.5M or so with interest that you saved to buy them their first house/apartment and start them off with a healthy savings account.

If $70k/year is something you can afford easily, going to Trevor or CGPS or Calhoun or LREI or Dwight or whatever is not likely to be *worse* for them then public school, and having a nice clean building with small class sizes and somebody to call about every little problem is a nice luxury.

Honestly I wouldn’t even put Trevor next to CGPS or LREI. Those have at least served long standing niches and communities. Trevor is a joke given how many better 3T schools there are close by.

I wasn't trying to make any sort of point about Trevor specifically but simply to say that even <insert whatever school you think is particularly mediocre here> will be fine for your kid if you have enough money not to care about the tuition.

The problem is, people with that sort of money get into TTs and 2Ts so long as the kid is passable and the parents aren’t jerks. Schools like Trevor attract the least desirable applicant families who fit the “enough money not to care” criteria

Not really. It actually has a lot of normal, down-to-earth families who don't want the drama of TT schools and want to avoid the opinionated jerks like the one who has derailed this thread. Particularly at the HS level. I actually do agree that for elementary I would probably pick PS9, 87, 199, etc.

Check out their 2026 IG page. It isn't TT but it is pretty good - Princeton and a bunch of Cornell, Penn, Hopkins, etc. I'm sure the snobs here will criticize it because it isn't all HYPS but that is not trash.

The cross admits of a TT and Trevor-like schools go with the TT 99% of the time. If you knew how first choice letters work and brokering applicants, you’d know this. Trevor has a TON of flashy jerks in sports cars and houses out East too. They have worse pedigrees and personalities and can’t get into a TT because of that.

Got it, a couple good college acceptances. Go compare the median of Trevor with Trinity. lol

Did anyone say Trevor is better than Trinity? Nope. Please just stop. You are a pathetic child. You don't like Trevor. Got it. Move on. So sad. You are kind of actually making me like it more. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Actually, some posters say Trevor is better because you can avoid TT competition. The pathetic children are those who go to Trevor.

Go ahead, spend over a million with expected tuition increases on Trevor. An idiot is swindled every day. They’ll gladly take your money and don’t have a line out the door like the 2Ts

You are calling children pathetic? Speaking of pathetic...