Speyer 2026 Exmissions

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Anonymous wrote:New Paltz High?

Grace Church is moving up in the world. I've been saying it for a while.

Though I still wouldn't send my kid to Speyer.

Why not? For unhooked kids, it seems like the best way to end up at a TT.

Life isn't just about getting to a TT. I want my kid to be happy, socialized, and, dare I say it, well-rounded.

Are Speyer kids not well rounded? I

I have only met a few so might be wrong (very unique for dcum that I am actually admitting potential limitations to my infinite wisdom) but all were socially awkward and parents were strivers who thought their child was perfect.

Yeah I am not a fan of the "gifted" label and Speyer is very vague on how they are assessing giftedness. I also worry about my kid being around other kids whose parents all think they are gifted, and my own kid identifying with the gifted label - it usually does more harm than good.

Speyer is the NYC location for CTY, which used to be a very selective thing but now it seems like getting a 98th percentile on a MAP test in kindergarten is enough to be permanently 'gifted.'

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They have a 2 hour assessment of the kids. I know they assessed who was reading. They pull them out individually to do math. They do some creative problem solving things, have them create something, puzzles, logic etc. Even Hunter after the IQ test is its own unique assessment. Speyer kids are pretty well rounded. They have debate, chess, Spanish, music, dance and maker lab as regular classes. They are constantly around the city with experiential learning. They have a few sports. I gotta love the hater aid on Speyer.... you can't buy your way for your kids to be gifted... and really its a profile not a success prediction

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Anonymous wrote:They have a 2 hour assessment of the kids. I know they assessed who was reading. They pull them out individually to do math. They do some creative problem solving things, have them create something, puzzles, logic etc. Even Hunter after the IQ test is its own unique assessment. Speyer kids are pretty well rounded. They have debate, chess, Spanish, music, dance and maker lab as regular classes. They are constantly around the city with experiential learning. They have a few sports. I gotta love the hater aid on Speyer.... you can't buy your way for your kids to be gifted... and really its a profile not a success prediction

How do you feel about the social aspect of school, given how small the class is? Especially for girls. My child is 4 and reading and doing multiplication but she's also a very girly girl, won't play with boys.

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There are comments online saying Speyer is more for neurodivergent kids. Most kids there are asynchronous developed. Is that true?

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"you can't buy your way for your kids to be gifted" yeah you pretty much can, particularly at a young age where the assessments are extremely coachable and you basically have to pinky-promise not to do test prep.

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Anonymous wrote:There are comments online saying Speyer is more for neurodivergent kids. Most kids there are asynchronous developed. Is that true?

Yes. Lots of 2E kids. And parents who think their kids walk on water (all NYC parents think this, but some more than others).

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I have multiple official pieces of paper designating my kids as 'gifted' (and not even in the 'basically everybody is gifted' G&T school way but in a serious competitive only-a-small-%-of-kids-get-it way) and while differentiation is great, I would never put them in a 'gifted' school because I don't want that to be the core of their identities and I don't want them with other 'gifted' kids/parents who think their farts don't stink.

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Anonymous wrote:I have multiple official pieces of paper designating my kids as 'gifted' (and not even in the 'basically everybody is gifted' G&T school way but in a serious competitive only-a-small-%-of-kids-get-it way) and while differentiation is great, I would never put them in a 'gifted' school because I don't want that to be the core of their identities and I don't want them with other 'gifted' kids/parents who think their farts don't stink.

+1 on this.

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Anonymous wrote:New Paltz High?

Grace Church is moving up in the world. I've been saying it for a while.

Though I still wouldn't send my kid to Speyer.

Why not? For unhooked kids, it seems like the best way to end up at a TT.

Life isn't just about getting to a TT. I want my kid to be happy, socialized, and, dare I say it, well-rounded.

Are Speyer kids not well rounded? I

I have only met a few so might be wrong (very unique for dcum that I am actually admitting potential limitations to my infinite wisdom) but all were socially awkward and parents were strivers who thought their child was perfect.

Yeah I am not a fan of the "gifted" label and Speyer is very vague on how they are assessing giftedness. I also worry about my kid being around other kids whose parents all think they are gifted, and my own kid identifying with the gifted label - it usually does more harm than good.

Speyer is the NYC location for CTY, which used to be a very selective thing but now it seems like getting a 98th percentile on a MAP test in kindergarten is enough to be permanently 'gifted.'

It's still selective. You can't participate in their courses without getting a high qualifying score on either the SCAT, SAT, or ACT.

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Anonymous wrote:New Paltz High?

Grace Church is moving up in the world. I've been saying it for a while.

Though I still wouldn't send my kid to Speyer.

Why not? For unhooked kids, it seems like the best way to end up at a TT.

Life isn't just about getting to a TT. I want my kid to be happy, socialized, and, dare I say it, well-rounded.

Are Speyer kids not well rounded? I

I have only met a few so might be wrong (very unique for dcum that I am actually admitting potential limitations to my infinite wisdom) but all were socially awkward and parents were strivers who thought their child was perfect.

Yeah I am not a fan of the "gifted" label and Speyer is very vague on how they are assessing giftedness. I also worry about my kid being around other kids whose parents all think they are gifted, and my own kid identifying with the gifted label - it usually does more harm than good.

Speyer is the NYC location for CTY, which used to be a very selective thing but now it seems like getting a 98th percentile on a MAP test in kindergarten is enough to be permanently 'gifted.'

It's still selective. You can't participate in their courses without getting a high qualifying score on either the SCAT, SAT, or ACT.

Sorry, that's not true - speaking as somebody who did that very thing, getting my kids permanently listed as "gifted" per CTY with 98th percentile kindergarten MAP test scores.

See https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/existing-test-scores - there are a bunch of untimed achievement tests and such on there, any of which will give you permanent lifetime CTY status with a 98 or better. (I was actually kind of bummed when I discovered this since I did the whole process myself back in middle school)

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Anonymous wrote:New Paltz High?

Grace Church is moving up in the world. I've been saying it for a while.

Though I still wouldn't send my kid to Speyer.

Why not? For unhooked kids, it seems like the best way to end up at a TT.

Life isn't just about getting to a TT. I want my kid to be happy, socialized, and, dare I say it, well-rounded.

Are Speyer kids not well rounded? I

I have only met a few so might be wrong (very unique for dcum that I am actually admitting potential limitations to my infinite wisdom) but all were socially awkward and parents were strivers who thought their child was perfect.

Yeah I am not a fan of the "gifted" label and Speyer is very vague on how they are assessing giftedness. I also worry about my kid being around other kids whose parents all think they are gifted, and my own kid identifying with the gifted label - it usually does more harm than good.

Speyer is the NYC location for CTY, which used to be a very selective thing but now it seems like getting a 98th percentile on a MAP test in kindergarten is enough to be permanently 'gifted.'

It's still selective. You can't participate in their courses without getting a high qualifying score on either the SCAT, SAT, or ACT.

Sorry, that's not true - speaking as somebody who did that very thing, getting my kids permanently listed as "gifted" per CTY with 98th percentile kindergarten MAP test scores.

See https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/existing-test-scores - there are a bunch of untimed achievement tests and such on there, any of which will give you permanent lifetime CTY status with a 98 or better. (I was actually kind of bummed when I discovered this since I did the whole process myself back in middle school)

Those scores qualify you to take the talent search test. Here are the scores you need to qualify for their advanced coursework ("Advanced CTY").

https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/identification-levels

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Anonymous wrote:New Paltz High?

Grace Church is moving up in the world. I've been saying it for a while.

Though I still wouldn't send my kid to Speyer.

Why not? For unhooked kids, it seems like the best way to end up at a TT.

Life isn't just about getting to a TT. I want my kid to be happy, socialized, and, dare I say it, well-rounded.

Are Speyer kids not well rounded? I

I have only met a few so might be wrong (very unique for dcum that I am actually admitting potential limitations to my infinite wisdom) but all were socially awkward and parents were strivers who thought their child was perfect.

Yeah I am not a fan of the "gifted" label and Speyer is very vague on how they are assessing giftedness. I also worry about my kid being around other kids whose parents all think they are gifted, and my own kid identifying with the gifted label - it usually does more harm than good.

Speyer is the NYC location for CTY, which used to be a very selective thing but now it seems like getting a 98th percentile on a MAP test in kindergarten is enough to be permanently 'gifted.'

It's still selective. You can't participate in their courses without getting a high qualifying score on either the SCAT, SAT, or ACT.

Sorry, that's not true - speaking as somebody who did that very thing, getting my kids permanently listed as "gifted" per CTY with 98th percentile kindergarten MAP test scores.

See https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/existing-test-scores - there are a bunch of untimed achievement tests and such on there, any of which will give you permanent lifetime CTY status with a 98 or better. (I was actually kind of bummed when I discovered this since I did the whole process myself back in middle school)

Those scores qualify you to take the talent search test. Here are the scores you need to qualify for their advanced coursework ("Advanced CTY").

https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/identification-levels

Sorry, they qualify you to register for their camps/courses too. "Advanced CTY" is a handful of additional courses, but you can do the full CTY experience and sign up for the vast majority of CTY courses with just a 98 on iReady or whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Paltz High?

Grace Church is moving up in the world. I've been saying it for a while.

Though I still wouldn't send my kid to Speyer.

Why not? For unhooked kids, it seems like the best way to end up at a TT.

Life isn't just about getting to a TT. I want my kid to be happy, socialized, and, dare I say it, well-rounded.

Are Speyer kids not well rounded? I

I have only met a few so might be wrong (very unique for dcum that I am actually admitting potential limitations to my infinite wisdom) but all were socially awkward and parents were strivers who thought their child was perfect.

Yeah I am not a fan of the "gifted" label and Speyer is very vague on how they are assessing giftedness. I also worry about my kid being around other kids whose parents all think they are gifted, and my own kid identifying with the gifted label - it usually does more harm than good.

Speyer is the NYC location for CTY, which used to be a very selective thing but now it seems like getting a 98th percentile on a MAP test in kindergarten is enough to be permanently 'gifted.'

It's still selective. You can't participate in their courses without getting a high qualifying score on either the SCAT, SAT, or ACT.

Sorry, that's not true - speaking as somebody who did that very thing, getting my kids permanently listed as "gifted" per CTY with 98th percentile kindergarten MAP test scores.

See https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/existing-test-scores - there are a bunch of untimed achievement tests and such on there, any of which will give you permanent lifetime CTY status with a 98 or better. (I was actually kind of bummed when I discovered this since I did the whole process myself back in middle school)

Those scores qualify you to take the talent search test. Here are the scores you need to qualify for their advanced coursework ("Advanced CTY").

https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/identification-levels

Sorry, they qualify you to register for their camps/courses too. "Advanced CTY" is a handful of additional courses, but you can do the full CTY experience and sign up for the vast majority of CTY courses with just a 98 on iReady or whatever.

Wow. That must be a recent change. It used to be that you could only do very limited "family programming" without a qualifying SAT/ACT/SCAT score.

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Anonymous wrote:New Paltz High?

Grace Church is moving up in the world. I've been saying it for a while.

Though I still wouldn't send my kid to Speyer.

Why not? For unhooked kids, it seems like the best way to end up at a TT.

Life isn't just about getting to a TT. I want my kid to be happy, socialized, and, dare I say it, well-rounded.

Are Speyer kids not well rounded? I

I have only met a few so might be wrong (very unique for dcum that I am actually admitting potential limitations to my infinite wisdom) but all were socially awkward and parents were strivers who thought their child was perfect.

Yeah I am not a fan of the "gifted" label and Speyer is very vague on how they are assessing giftedness. I also worry about my kid being around other kids whose parents all think they are gifted, and my own kid identifying with the gifted label - it usually does more harm than good.

Speyer is the NYC location for CTY, which used to be a very selective thing but now it seems like getting a 98th percentile on a MAP test in kindergarten is enough to be permanently 'gifted.'

It's still selective. You can't participate in their courses without getting a high qualifying score on either the SCAT, SAT, or ACT.

Sorry, that's not true - speaking as somebody who did that very thing, getting my kids permanently listed as "gifted" per CTY with 98th percentile kindergarten MAP test scores.

See https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/existing-test-scores - there are a bunch of untimed achievement tests and such on there, any of which will give you permanent lifetime CTY status with a 98 or better. (I was actually kind of bummed when I discovered this since I did the whole process myself back in middle school)

Those scores qualify you to take the talent search test. Here are the scores you need to qualify for their advanced coursework ("Advanced CTY").

https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/identification-levels

Sorry, they qualify you to register for their camps/courses too. "Advanced CTY" is a handful of additional courses, but you can do the full CTY experience and sign up for the vast majority of CTY courses with just a 98 on iReady or whatever.

Wow. That must be a recent change. It used to be that you could only do very limited "family programming" without a qualifying SAT/ACT/SCAT score.

Yeah, I get the impression competition in the "gifted camp" space has heated up enormously and so they're doing what every legacy business facing competitive sales declines does - slap the prestigious brand name on a weaker product.

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Anonymous wrote:New Paltz High?

Grace Church is moving up in the world. I've been saying it for a while.

Though I still wouldn't send my kid to Speyer.

Why not? For unhooked kids, it seems like the best way to end up at a TT.

Life isn't just about getting to a TT. I want my kid to be happy, socialized, and, dare I say it, well-rounded.

Are Speyer kids not well rounded? I

I have only met a few so might be wrong (very unique for dcum that I am actually admitting potential limitations to my infinite wisdom) but all were socially awkward and parents were strivers who thought their child was perfect.

Yeah I am not a fan of the "gifted" label and Speyer is very vague on how they are assessing giftedness. I also worry about my kid being around other kids whose parents all think they are gifted, and my own kid identifying with the gifted label - it usually does more harm than good.

Speyer is the NYC location for CTY, which used to be a very selective thing but now it seems like getting a 98th percentile on a MAP test in kindergarten is enough to be permanently 'gifted.'

It's still selective. You can't participate in their courses without getting a high qualifying score on either the SCAT, SAT, or ACT.

Sorry, that's not true - speaking as somebody who did that very thing, getting my kids permanently listed as "gifted" per CTY with 98th percentile kindergarten MAP test scores.

See https://cty.jhu.edu/testing/existing-test-scores - there are a bunch of untimed achievement tests and such on there, any of which will give you permanent lifetime CTY status with a 98 or better. (I was actually kind of bummed when I discovered this since I did the whole process myself back in middle school)

What was the value in doing that for your kids? I'm curious.