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I am going to GUESS on time.

I'm going to guess a delay to make sure bus drivers feel safe picking up middle schoolers. With the melting today there will be black ice and kids waiting on dark roads before 6 am when its still dark.

They could have solved that problem already with a delayed middle school start time.

I agree there should be a delay for the pedestrians to be safe, who you can't see behind the ice banks.

I had thought all the schools had to have the same number of snow hours, but I’ve read that ES principals have been using snow hours to cover the planning time they were required to give their teachers… so yeah, if we’re all different…

Do you mean the 3 hour early release days?

Why don’t they make the teachers arrive on time and plan then. Also, get rid of the workday on Feb 18 and the workday on the Friday of the week the kids come back from Spring Break. The incompetence at all levels of FCPS is astounding.

Why would they do any of this when they still have hours built into the calendar to support these delays and closures? Your problem is with the 990 hours requirement. At 6 hour days (FCPS) can whittle 179 days down to 165 and still meet state metrics.

Some of us would like a little more than the bare minimum when it comes to educating our children. Maybe the same amount of effort that was given to us as children is asking too much of today's workforce?

I agree that the 990 loophole is ridiculous, especially when FCPS stretches the definition by counting nearly every second a student steps off and back onto the bus as instructional time. There needs to be tighter regulation on what is counted as instructional time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think Monday will be a 2 hour delay?

MCPS and APS didn't have delays today.

What is different in FCPS? It seemed that Maryland had worse plowing jobs than Virginia.

I have kids in elementary and high school. I drove my kids to school this morning. Many side streets are still one lane roads.

Buses could not pass so cars had to pull into driveways so buses could pass. Cars had to take turns letting cars pass as the typical two lane street was 1.25 lanes. Through all of this, the walkers were walking between cars in the one lane or thru traffic. This would not work in rush hour.

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Anonymous wrote:We have no news yet.
I am going to GUESS on time.

I'm going to guess a delay to make sure bus drivers feel safe picking up middle schoolers. With the melting today there will be black ice and kids waiting on dark roads before 6 am when its still dark.

They could have solved that problem already with a delayed middle school start time.

I agree there should be a delay for the pedestrians to be safe, who you can't see behind the ice banks.

I had thought all the schools had to have the same number of snow hours, but I’ve read that ES principals have been using snow hours to cover the planning time they were required to give their teachers… so yeah, if we’re all different…

Do you mean the 3 hour early release days?

Why don’t they make the teachers arrive on time and plan then. Also, get rid of the workday on Feb 18 and the workday on the Friday of the week the kids come back from Spring Break. The incompetence at all levels of FCPS is astounding.

Why would they do any of this when they still have hours built into the calendar to support these delays and closures? Your problem is with the 990 hours requirement. At 6 hour days (FCPS) can whittle 179 days down to 165 and still meet state metrics.

Some of us would like a little more than the bare minimum when it comes to educating our children. Maybe the same amount of effort that was given to us as children is asking too much of today's workforce?

I agree that the 990 loophole is ridiculous, especially when FCPS stretches the definition by counting nearly every second a student steps off and back onto the bus as instructional time. There needs to be tighter regulation on what is counted as instructional time.

So much of the day is not instructional and I have one kid in high school taking all AP classes. Even in high level courses, the entire class is not instructional.

Lessons are half the class at best. Then the kids work on their work. This is from elementary all the way up to senior year of high school.

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Anonymous wrote:We have no news yet.
I am going to GUESS on time.

I'm going to guess a delay to make sure bus drivers feel safe picking up middle schoolers. With the melting today there will be black ice and kids waiting on dark roads before 6 am when its still dark.

They could have solved that problem already with a delayed middle school start time.

I agree there should be a delay for the pedestrians to be safe, who you can't see behind the ice banks.

I had thought all the schools had to have the same number of snow hours, but I’ve read that ES principals have been using snow hours to cover the planning time they were required to give their teachers… so yeah, if we’re all different…

Do you mean the 3 hour early release days?

Why don’t they make the teachers arrive on time and plan then. Also, get rid of the workday on Feb 18 and the workday on the Friday of the week the kids come back from Spring Break. The incompetence at all levels of FCPS is astounding.

Why would they do any of this when they still have hours built into the calendar to support these delays and closures? Your problem is with the 990 hours requirement. At 6 hour days (FCPS) can whittle 179 days down to 165 and still meet state metrics.

Some of us would like a little more than the bare minimum when it comes to educating our children. Maybe the same amount of effort that was given to us as children is asking too much of today's workforce?

I agree that the 990 loophole is ridiculous, especially when FCPS stretches the definition by counting nearly every second a student steps off and back onto the bus as instructional time. There needs to be tighter regulation on what is counted as instructional time.

So much of the day is not instructional and I have one kid in high school taking all AP classes. Even in high level courses, the entire class is not instructional.

Lessons are half the class at best. Then the kids work on their work. This is from elementary all the way up to senior year of high school.

Yup....there is very little instruction happening in ES all the way through HS and no one seems to care. But hey all those gatehouse positions are nice and comfy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have no news yet.
I am going to GUESS on time.

I'm going to guess a delay to make sure bus drivers feel safe picking up middle schoolers. With the melting today there will be black ice and kids waiting on dark roads before 6 am when its still dark.

They could have solved that problem already with a delayed middle school start time.

I agree there should be a delay for the pedestrians to be safe, who you can't see behind the ice banks.

I had thought all the schools had to have the same number of snow hours, but I’ve read that ES principals have been using snow hours to cover the planning time they were required to give their teachers… so yeah, if we’re all different…

Do you mean the 3 hour early release days?

Why don’t they make the teachers arrive on time and plan then. Also, get rid of the workday on Feb 18 and the workday on the Friday of the week the kids come back from Spring Break. The incompetence at all levels of FCPS is astounding.

Why would they do any of this when they still have hours built into the calendar to support these delays and closures? Your problem is with the 990 hours requirement. At 6 hour days (FCPS) can whittle 179 days down to 165 and still meet state metrics.

Some of us would like a little more than the bare minimum when it comes to educating our children. Maybe the same amount of effort that was given to us as children is asking too much of today's workforce?

I agree that the 990 loophole is ridiculous, especially when FCPS stretches the definition by counting nearly every second a student steps off and back onto the bus as instructional time. There needs to be tighter regulation on what is counted as instructional time.

So much of the day is not instructional and I have one kid in high school taking all AP classes. Even in high level courses, the entire class is not instructional.

Lessons are half the class at best. Then the kids work on their work. This is from elementary all the way up to senior year of high school.

Nothing you wrote seems different from how it was in the 90s. People really think they went to school and the teacher was standing up there lecturing and teaching all day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have no news yet.
I am going to GUESS on time.

I'm going to guess a delay to make sure bus drivers feel safe picking up middle schoolers. With the melting today there will be black ice and kids waiting on dark roads before 6 am when its still dark.

They could have solved that problem already with a delayed middle school start time.

I agree there should be a delay for the pedestrians to be safe, who you can't see behind the ice banks.

I had thought all the schools had to have the same number of snow hours, but I’ve read that ES principals have been using snow hours to cover the planning time they were required to give their teachers… so yeah, if we’re all different…

Do you mean the 3 hour early release days?

Why don’t they make the teachers arrive on time and plan then. Also, get rid of the workday on Feb 18 and the workday on the Friday of the week the kids come back from Spring Break. The incompetence at all levels of FCPS is astounding.

Why would they do any of this when they still have hours built into the calendar to support these delays and closures? Your problem is with the 990 hours requirement. At 6 hour days (FCPS) can whittle 179 days down to 165 and still meet state metrics.

Some of us would like a little more than the bare minimum when it comes to educating our children. Maybe the same amount of effort that was given to us as children is asking too much of today's workforce?

I agree that the 990 loophole is ridiculous, especially when FCPS stretches the definition by counting nearly every second a student steps off and back onto the bus as instructional time. There needs to be tighter regulation on what is counted as instructional time.

So much of the day is not instructional and I have one kid in high school taking all AP classes. Even in high level courses, the entire class is not instructional.

Lessons are half the class at best. Then the kids work on their work. This is from elementary all the way up to senior year of high school.

Nothing you wrote seems different from how it was in the 90s. People really think they went to school and the teacher was standing up there lecturing and teaching all day.

Except didn’t they “unlock” 13 snow days in the last decade or so by reconstituting what counted as instructional hours. So while school days have always had filler, the filler didn’t always count. Now, because they have so much buffer, they reallocate the snow bank, for things like 3 hours early release. What’s being argued is that they should strive to hit the 180 day benchmark rather than trip over the 990 goal post that they’ve artificially lowered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have no news yet.
I am going to GUESS on time.

I'm going to guess a delay to make sure bus drivers feel safe picking up middle schoolers. With the melting today there will be black ice and kids waiting on dark roads before 6 am when its still dark.

They could have solved that problem already with a delayed middle school start time.

I agree there should be a delay for the pedestrians to be safe, who you can't see behind the ice banks.

I had thought all the schools had to have the same number of snow hours, but I’ve read that ES principals have been using snow hours to cover the planning time they were required to give their teachers… so yeah, if we’re all different…

Do you mean the 3 hour early release days?

Why don’t they make the teachers arrive on time and plan then. Also, get rid of the workday on Feb 18 and the workday on the Friday of the week the kids come back from Spring Break. The incompetence at all levels of FCPS is astounding.

Why would they do any of this when they still have hours built into the calendar to support these delays and closures? Your problem is with the 990 hours requirement. At 6 hour days (FCPS) can whittle 179 days down to 165 and still meet state metrics.

Some of us would like a little more than the bare minimum when it comes to educating our children. Maybe the same amount of effort that was given to us as children is asking too much of today's workforce?

I agree that the 990 loophole is ridiculous, especially when FCPS stretches the definition by counting nearly every second a student steps off and back onto the bus as instructional time. There needs to be tighter regulation on what is counted as instructional time.

So much of the day is not instructional and I have one kid in high school taking all AP classes. Even in high level courses, the entire class is not instructional.

Lessons are half the class at best. Then the kids work on their work. This is from elementary all the way up to senior year of high school.

Nothing you wrote seems different from how it was in the 90s. People really think they went to school and the teacher was standing up there lecturing and teaching all day.

+1, in the 90s my Geometry only spoke to tell us what page to work on and to tell us she wouldn’t be answering questions; and my US Government teacher only shared stories of his time in Korea. So even FCPS in the 90s was hit or miss and I went to a “good” high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have no news yet.
I am going to GUESS on time.

I'm going to guess a delay to make sure bus drivers feel safe picking up middle schoolers. With the melting today there will be black ice and kids waiting on dark roads before 6 am when its still dark.

They could have solved that problem already with a delayed middle school start time.

I agree there should be a delay for the pedestrians to be safe, who you can't see behind the ice banks.

I had thought all the schools had to have the same number of snow hours, but I’ve read that ES principals have been using snow hours to cover the planning time they were required to give their teachers… so yeah, if we’re all different…

Do you mean the 3 hour early release days?

Why don’t they make the teachers arrive on time and plan then. Also, get rid of the workday on Feb 18 and the workday on the Friday of the week the kids come back from Spring Break. The incompetence at all levels of FCPS is astounding.

Why would they do any of this when they still have hours built into the calendar to support these delays and closures? Your problem is with the 990 hours requirement. At 6 hour days (FCPS) can whittle 179 days down to 165 and still meet state metrics.

Some of us would like a little more than the bare minimum when it comes to educating our children. Maybe the same amount of effort that was given to us as children is asking too much of today's workforce?

I agree that the 990 loophole is ridiculous, especially when FCPS stretches the definition by counting nearly every second a student steps off and back onto the bus as instructional time. There needs to be tighter regulation on what is counted as instructional time.

So much of the day is not instructional and I have one kid in high school taking all AP classes. Even in high level courses, the entire class is not instructional.

Lessons are half the class at best. Then the kids work on their work. This is from elementary all the way up to senior year of high school.

Nothing you wrote seems different from how it was in the 90s. People really think they went to school and the teacher was standing up there lecturing and teaching all day.

Except didn’t they “unlock” 13 snow days in the last decade or so by reconstituting what counted as instructional hours. So while school days have always had filler, the filler didn’t always count. Now, because they have so much buffer, they reallocate the snow bank, for things like 3 hours early release. What’s being argued is that they should strive to hit the 180 day benchmark rather than trip over the 990 goal post that they’ve artificially lowered.

You need a hobby.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think Monday will be a 2 hour delay?

MCPS and APS didn't have delays today.

What is different in FCPS? It seemed that Maryland had worse plowing jobs than Virginia.

I have kids in elementary and high school. I drove my kids to school this morning. Many side streets are still one lane roads.

Buses could not pass so cars had to pull into driveways so buses could pass. Cars had to take turns letting cars pass as the typical two lane street was 1.25 lanes. Through all of this, the walkers were walking between cars in the one lane or thru traffic. This would not work in rush hour.

Same scenario in the other districts.

Why can't we figure it out?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think Monday will be a 2 hour delay?

MCPS and APS didn't have delays today.

What is different in FCPS? It seemed that Maryland had worse plowing jobs than Virginia.

I have kids in elementary and high school. I drove my kids to school this morning. Many side streets are still one lane roads.

Buses could not pass so cars had to pull into driveways so buses could pass. Cars had to take turns letting cars pass as the typical two lane street was 1.25 lanes. Through all of this, the walkers were walking between cars in the one lane or thru traffic. This would not work in rush hour.

Same scenario in the other districts.

Why can't we figure it out?

The snowcrete was an anomaly that snow plows didn’t know how to deal with, and the unusually long cold snap meant Mother Nature didn’t help us out. It’ll warm up next week and (hopefully) we will be better prepared next time.

[Anonymous]

I’ve had to drive my kids all week to and from school bc there is literally nowhere for my kids to walk home the bus except the road and it’s not safe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think Monday will be a 2 hour delay?

MCPS and APS didn't have delays today.

What is different in FCPS? It seemed that Maryland had worse plowing jobs than Virginia.

I have kids in elementary and high school. I drove my kids to school this morning. Many side streets are still one lane roads.

Buses could not pass so cars had to pull into driveways so buses could pass. Cars had to take turns letting cars pass as the typical two lane street was 1.25 lanes. Through all of this, the walkers were walking between cars in the one lane or thru traffic. This would not work in rush hour.

Same scenario in the other districts.

Why can't we figure it out?

We are. With 2 hour delays. You just don’t like it.

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Anonymous wrote:We have no news yet.
I am going to GUESS on time.

I'm going to guess a delay to make sure bus drivers feel safe picking up middle schoolers. With the melting today there will be black ice and kids waiting on dark roads before 6 am when its still dark.

They could have solved that problem already with a delayed middle school start time.

I agree there should be a delay for the pedestrians to be safe, who you can't see behind the ice banks.

I had thought all the schools had to have the same number of snow hours, but I’ve read that ES principals have been using snow hours to cover the planning time they were required to give their teachers… so yeah, if we’re all different…

Do you mean the 3 hour early release days?

Why don’t they make the teachers arrive on time and plan then. Also, get rid of the workday on Feb 18 and the workday on the Friday of the week the kids come back from Spring Break. The incompetence at all levels of FCPS is astounding.

Why would they do any of this when they still have hours built into the calendar to support these delays and closures? Your problem is with the 990 hours requirement. At 6 hour days (FCPS) can whittle 179 days down to 165 and still meet state metrics.

Some of us would like a little more than the bare minimum when it comes to educating our children. Maybe the same amount of effort that was given to us as children is asking too much of today's workforce?

I agree that the 990 loophole is ridiculous, especially when FCPS stretches the definition by counting nearly every second a student steps off and back onto the bus as instructional time. There needs to be tighter regulation on what is counted as instructional time.

So much of the day is not instructional and I have one kid in high school taking all AP classes. Even in high level courses, the entire class is not instructional.

Lessons are half the class at best. Then the kids work on their work. This is from elementary all the way up to senior year of high school.

Nothing you wrote seems different from how it was in the 90s. People really think they went to school and the teacher was standing up there lecturing and teaching all day.

Except didn’t they “unlock” 13 snow days in the last decade or so by reconstituting what counted as instructional hours. So while school days have always had filler, the filler didn’t always count. Now, because they have so much buffer, they reallocate the snow bank, for things like 3 hours early release. What’s being argued is that they should strive to hit the 180 day benchmark rather than trip over the 990 goal post that they’ve artificially lowered.

What’s funny is the the folks over on the MCPS forum are arguing about getting this same treatment over there because they will get days added to their calendar due to the 180 day requirement.

Obviously the problem for both is the significant increase in days off.

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Anonymous wrote:We have no news yet.
I am going to GUESS on time.

I'm going to guess a delay to make sure bus drivers feel safe picking up middle schoolers. With the melting today there will be black ice and kids waiting on dark roads before 6 am when its still dark.

They could have solved that problem already with a delayed middle school start time.

I agree there should be a delay for the pedestrians to be safe, who you can't see behind the ice banks.

I had thought all the schools had to have the same number of snow hours, but I’ve read that ES principals have been using snow hours to cover the planning time they were required to give their teachers… so yeah, if we’re all different…

Do you mean the 3 hour early release days?

Why don’t they make the teachers arrive on time and plan then. Also, get rid of the workday on Feb 18 and the workday on the Friday of the week the kids come back from Spring Break. The incompetence at all levels of FCPS is astounding.

Why would they do any of this when they still have hours built into the calendar to support these delays and closures? Your problem is with the 990 hours requirement. At 6 hour days (FCPS) can whittle 179 days down to 165 and still meet state metrics.

Some of us would like a little more than the bare minimum when it comes to educating our children. Maybe the same amount of effort that was given to us as children is asking too much of today's workforce?

I agree that the 990 loophole is ridiculous, especially when FCPS stretches the definition by counting nearly every second a student steps off and back onto the bus as instructional time. There needs to be tighter regulation on what is counted as instructional time.

So much of the day is not instructional and I have one kid in high school taking all AP classes. Even in high level courses, the entire class is not instructional.

Lessons are half the class at best. Then the kids work on their work. This is from elementary all the way up to senior year of high school.

Nothing you wrote seems different from how it was in the 90s. People really think they went to school and the teacher was standing up there lecturing and teaching all day.

I was only responding to the pp who seems to think we are losing a lot of learning time in the classroom.

My kids like the 2 hour delay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you think Monday will be a 2 hour delay?

MCPS and APS didn't have delays today.

What is different in FCPS? It seemed that Maryland had worse plowing jobs than Virginia.

I have kids in elementary and high school. I drove my kids to school this morning. Many side streets are still one lane roads.

Buses could not pass so cars had to pull into driveways so buses could pass. Cars had to take turns letting cars pass as the typical two lane street was 1.25 lanes. Through all of this, the walkers were walking between cars in the one lane or thru traffic. This would not work in rush hour.

Same scenario in the other districts.

Why can't we figure it out?

The 2 hour delay seems to be the solution with impassable streets for buses and kids walking to school with no sidewalk.