Measles Outbreak

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It took a year(?) (or less) without vaccines to trigger all these outbreaks?? Ugh.

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Anonymous wrote:It took a year(?) (or less) without vaccines to trigger all these outbreaks?? Ugh.

It’s not like the DC area is a remote island. We have traffic in and out from all the unvaxxed idiots of the country. Florida doesn’t even require the measles vaccine for school children anymore. Their public health laws are our public health laws.

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Anonymous wrote:At least 20 students at Ave Maria University in Collier County have confirmed measles infections and there are still 14 cases pending testing, according to a local clinic. In a health alert posted on its website, Ava Maria said that five students presented with rash since last Friday and are being quarantined

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/state/2026/02/10/measles-cases-florida/88586502007/#:~:text=However%2C%20at%20least%2020%20students,Friday%20and%20are%20being%20quarantined.

Ave Maria University is a highly conservative, Catholic institution in Florida known for its traditional, faith-based, and non-coed-dormitory environment, often cited as one of the most conservative colleges in the US. It promotes a conservative Catholic worldview, with a large majority of students holding conservative political views.

Measles also causes severe effects in pregnant women, potentially causing them to miscarry. "pro life" my butt.

Thoughts and prayers.

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Anonymous wrote:It took a year(?) (or less) without vaccines to trigger all these outbreaks?? Ugh.

It’s not like the DC area is a remote island. We have traffic in and out from all the unvaxxed idiots of the country. Florida doesn’t even require the measles vaccine for school children anymore. Their public health laws are our public health laws.

How did the measles suddenly appear? Does it lay dormant?

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Anonymous wrote:It took a year(?) (or less) without vaccines to trigger all these outbreaks?? Ugh.

And - as if anyone needs a reminder after the Covid pandemic. Contagious respiratory disease grows exponentially. The r factor for measles is significantly higher than Covid.

It’s going to be very expensive.

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Anonymous wrote:At least 20 students at Ave Maria University in Collier County have confirmed measles infections and there are still 14 cases pending testing, according to a local clinic. In a health alert posted on its website, Ava Maria said that five students presented with rash since last Friday and are being quarantined

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/state/2026/02/10/measles-cases-florida/88586502007/#:~:text=However%2C%20at%20least%2020%20students,Friday%20and%20are%20being%20quarantined.

Ave Maria University is a highly conservative, Catholic institution in Florida known for its traditional, faith-based, and non-coed-dormitory environment, often cited as one of the most conservative colleges in the US. It promotes a conservative Catholic worldview, with a large majority of students holding conservative political views.

Measles also causes severe effects in pregnant women, potentially causing them to miscarry. "pro life" my butt.

This university press release is very reckless. https://www.avemaria.edu/campus-health-update
Since the start of the semester, 49 nurse-assessed students have progressed beyond the contagious period and now have natural immunity
There is nothing in this press that even suggests that people should get the MMR vaccine. Maybe some of the parents will sue the university for endangering students health.

And probably have lost immunity to multiple other diseases.

Harvard Magazine
How Measles Causes Immune Amnesia:
Michael Mina explains “immune amnesia” and the lasting impact of infection.
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/health-medicine/measles-immune-amnesia

The measles outbreak in Texas, which has now spread to New Mexico, has infected mainly unvaccinated children. Of 159 cases, all but five were in unvaccinated individuals. One child has died. Cases have also been reported in six other states, including New York, New Jersey, and California. What has not been widely reported is what comes next for those who become infected: “exceptionally high rates of co-infections and hospitalizations for bacterial pneumonias and related conditions,” reports Michael Mina, a former assistant professor of immunology and infectious diseases at Harvard Medical School and of epidemiology at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. This heightened vulnerability to other infections and diseases is particularly pronounced during the first two months following recovery. Although this corollary impact of measles has been known for years, it was thought to be caused by short-lived immune suppression—a temporary disabling of the ordinary immune response.

Between 2015 and 2019, however, Mina’s research proved that measles causes immune amnesia—when the immune system forgets how to fight off infections it successfully dealt with before—and showed that this effect lasts for years, not weeks or months. This leaves patients profoundly vulnerable to pathogens they have previously been vaccinated against or exposed to, and to which they would ordinarily be immune.
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Mina’s first paper on the subject, an epidemiological study published in Science in 2015, used a large dataset of health information to reveal that children infected with measles continued to die at increased rates for years.

You absolute knob.

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Anonymous wrote:So when are we going to get the pile of bodies we were promised?

1 to 3 in 1000 children with measles die. Try as you might, you haven't been able to infect that many yet in this outbreak. There have been some child deaths already in overall cases, though.

Just imagine how much fun you'd have if you could ensure they were all unvaccinated! Are you betting on the numbers? What's the spread?

The rate was 1 in 1000 back in 1960. You guys really should update your numbers now and then, because a lots happened in the last 65 years. We don't have pockets of malnourished children like we did then, so the disease ends up being pretty mild.

The disease remains severe. What we have now is ECMO, ventilators, a whole lot of pharma, and the ability to crack a kid’s head open so his swollen brain has somewhere to go. If you don’t mind dropping a couple of million, we can save your kid, too. No guarantees about what he’s going to be like after, though.

+1 this person is very ignorant. 11% of the people diagnosed with measles in 2025 were hospitalized, more than 1/10. Three of these people who had measles died last year! In 2025, even with modern medical care you are talking about the fatality rate was still 1/760 last year.

Makes me so angry. These are needless deaths. Brought on by repudiation of one of the most amazing things science has ever produced because a conman wants to be president.

Most deaths in this country are arguably needless, but we give people the freedom to make the decisions that lead to their deaths or the deaths of others. We let any ole idiot purchase a 5,000 pound battering ram and drive it around a city, while carrying a military inspired weapon, a couple of pit-bulls roaming around the backseat while chugging the largest slurpee they could fit in a cup-holder. All of these things are far dumber decisions than passing on the measles vaccine and they produce far more deaths.

That's before you factor in the often ignored fact that vaccines are not risk free. You really should read the package inserts of the vaccines you advocate for. Let me show you a small portion of one:
Nervous System
Encephalitis; encephalopathy; measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE) subacute sclerosing
panencephalitis (SSPE); Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS); acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM);
transverse myelitis; febrile convulsions; afebrile convulsions or seizures; ataxia; polyneuritis;
polyneuropathy; ocular palsies; paresthesia; syncope."

Hrmm, one of those looks familiar...

So how many kids do we have to give SSPE to, uh, save kids from SSPE?

You know it's more common with the viral infection than with the vaccine, right?

I do not, could you tell me what the rate is for the vaccine?

So you don't know the basics of what you are talking about. Great.

Does your confidence also come from a brain worm? JFC.

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Anonymous wrote:So when are we going to get the pile of bodies we were promised?

1 to 3 in 1000 children with measles die. Try as you might, you haven't been able to infect that many yet in this outbreak. There have been some child deaths already in overall cases, though.

Just imagine how much fun you'd have if you could ensure they were all unvaccinated! Are you betting on the numbers? What's the spread?

The rate was 1 in 1000 back in 1960. You guys really should update your numbers now and then, because a lots happened in the last 65 years. We don't have pockets of malnourished children like we did then, so the disease ends up being pretty mild.

The disease remains severe. What we have now is ECMO, ventilators, a whole lot of pharma, and the ability to crack a kid’s head open so his swollen brain has somewhere to go. If you don’t mind dropping a couple of million, we can save your kid, too. No guarantees about what he’s going to be like after, though.

+1 this person is very ignorant. 11% of the people diagnosed with measles in 2025 were hospitalized, more than 1/10. Three of these people who had measles died last year! In 2025, even with modern medical care you are talking about the fatality rate was still 1/760 last year.

Makes me so angry. These are needless deaths. Brought on by repudiation of one of the most amazing things science has ever produced because a conman wants to be president.

Most deaths in this country are arguably needless, but we give people the freedom to make the decisions that lead to their deaths or the deaths of others. We let any ole idiot purchase a 5,000 pound battering ram and drive it around a city, while carrying a military inspired weapon, a couple of pit-bulls roaming around the backseat while chugging the largest slurpee they could fit in a cup-holder. All of these things are far dumber decisions than passing on the measles vaccine and they produce far more deaths.

That's before you factor in the often ignored fact that vaccines are not risk free. You really should read the package inserts of the vaccines you advocate for. Let me show you a small portion of one:
Nervous System
Encephalitis; encephalopathy; measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE) subacute sclerosing
panencephalitis (SSPE); Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS); acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM);
transverse myelitis; febrile convulsions; afebrile convulsions or seizures; ataxia; polyneuritis;
polyneuropathy; ocular palsies; paresthesia; syncope."

Hrmm, one of those looks familiar...

So how many kids do we have to give SSPE to, uh, save kids from SSPE?

You know it's more common with the viral infection than with the vaccine, right?

I do not, could you tell me what the rate is for the vaccine?

Either way thanks to the work up thread on the lethality of SSPE we can safely say the MMR vaccine is killing kids.

People are disgusted by you, and rightfully so. You are reviled.

The rate of SSPE after vaccination is roughly 0.7 to 1 per million doses, and it is thought to be connected to unrecognized pre-existing measles infection.

The risk from measles infection (without widespread vaccination, this is essentially 100%, because it is so contagious) is a rate of somewhere between 10-300 cases per million -- unless you are under 1 year old, where the rate goes up to about 1 in 600.

You are so contemptible.

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Anonymous wrote:So when are we going to get the pile of bodies we were promised?

1 to 3 in 1000 children with measles die. Try as you might, you haven't been able to infect that many yet in this outbreak. There have been some child deaths already in overall cases, though.

Just imagine how much fun you'd have if you could ensure they were all unvaccinated! Are you betting on the numbers? What's the spread?

The rate was 1 in 1000 back in 1960. You guys really should update your numbers now and then, because a lots happened in the last 65 years. We don't have pockets of malnourished children like we did then, so the disease ends up being pretty mild.

The disease remains severe. What we have now is ECMO, ventilators, a whole lot of pharma, and the ability to crack a kid’s head open so his swollen brain has somewhere to go. If you don’t mind dropping a couple of million, we can save your kid, too. No guarantees about what he’s going to be like after, though.

+1 this person is very ignorant. 11% of the people diagnosed with measles in 2025 were hospitalized, more than 1/10. Three of these people who had measles died last year! In 2025, even with modern medical care you are talking about the fatality rate was still 1/760 last year.

Makes me so angry. These are needless deaths. Brought on by repudiation of one of the most amazing things science has ever produced because a conman wants to be president.

Most deaths in this country are arguably needless, but we give people the freedom to make the decisions that lead to their deaths or the deaths of others. We let any ole idiot purchase a 5,000 pound battering ram and drive it around a city, while carrying a military inspired weapon, a couple of pit-bulls roaming around the backseat while chugging the largest slurpee they could fit in a cup-holder. All of these things are far dumber decisions than passing on the measles vaccine and they produce far more deaths.

That's before you factor in the often ignored fact that vaccines are not risk free. You really should read the package inserts of the vaccines you advocate for. Let me show you a small portion of one:
Nervous System
Encephalitis; encephalopathy; measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE) subacute sclerosing
panencephalitis (SSPE); Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS); acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM);
transverse myelitis; febrile convulsions; afebrile convulsions or seizures; ataxia; polyneuritis;
polyneuropathy; ocular palsies; paresthesia; syncope."

Hrmm, one of those looks familiar...

So how many kids do we have to give SSPE to, uh, save kids from SSPE?

You know it's more common with the viral infection than with the vaccine, right?

I do not, could you tell me what the rate is for the vaccine?

Either way thanks to the work up thread on the lethality of SSPE we can safely say the MMR vaccine is killing kids.

People are disgusted by you, and rightfully so. You are reviled.

The rate of SSPE after vaccination is roughly 0.7 to 1 per million doses, and it is thought to be connected to unrecognized pre-existing measles infection.

The risk from measles infection (without widespread vaccination, this is essentially 100%, because it is so contagious) is a rate of somewhere between 10-300 cases per million -- unless you are[i] under 1 year old, where the rate goes up to about 1 in 600[/i].

You are so contemptible.

That is horrific. Thank you for the data.

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Anonymous wrote:So when are we going to get the pile of bodies we were promised?

1 to 3 in 1000 children with measles die. Try as you might, you haven't been able to infect that many yet in this outbreak. There have been some child deaths already in overall cases, though.

Just imagine how much fun you'd have if you could ensure they were all unvaccinated! Are you betting on the numbers? What's the spread?

The rate was 1 in 1000 back in 1960. You guys really should update your numbers now and then, because a lots happened in the last 65 years. We don't have pockets of malnourished children like we did then, so the disease ends up being pretty mild.

The disease remains severe. What we have now is ECMO, ventilators, a whole lot of pharma, and the ability to crack a kid’s head open so his swollen brain has somewhere to go. If you don’t mind dropping a couple of million, we can save your kid, too. No guarantees about what he’s going to be like after, though.

+1 this person is very ignorant. 11% of the people diagnosed with measles in 2025 were hospitalized, more than 1/10. Three of these people who had measles died last year! In 2025, even with modern medical care you are talking about the fatality rate was still 1/760 last year.

Makes me so angry. These are needless deaths. Brought on by repudiation of one of the most amazing things science has ever produced because a conman wants to be president.

Most deaths in this country are arguably needless, but we give people the freedom to make the decisions that lead to their deaths or the deaths of others. We let any ole idiot purchase a 5,000 pound battering ram and drive it around a city, while carrying a military inspired weapon, a couple of pit-bulls roaming around the backseat while chugging the largest slurpee they could fit in a cup-holder. All of these things are far dumber decisions than passing on the measles vaccine and they produce far more deaths.

That's before you factor in the often ignored fact that vaccines are not risk free. You really should read the package inserts of the vaccines you advocate for. Let me show you a small portion of one:
Nervous System
Encephalitis; encephalopathy; measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE) subacute sclerosing
panencephalitis (SSPE); Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS); acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM);
transverse myelitis; febrile convulsions; afebrile convulsions or seizures; ataxia; polyneuritis;
polyneuropathy; ocular palsies; paresthesia; syncope."

Hrmm, one of those looks familiar...

So how many kids do we have to give SSPE to, uh, save kids from SSPE?

You know it's more common with the viral infection than with the vaccine, right?

I do not, could you tell me what the rate is for the vaccine?

Either way thanks to the work up thread on the lethality of SSPE we can safely say the MMR vaccine is killing kids.

People are disgusted by you, and rightfully so. You are reviled.

The rate of SSPE after vaccination is roughly 0.7 to 1 per million doses, and it is thought to be connected to unrecognized pre-existing measles infection.

The risk from measles infection (without widespread vaccination, this is essentially 100%, because it is so contagious) is a rate of somewhere between 10-300 cases per million -- unless you are[i] under 1 year old, where the rate goes up to about 1 in 600[/i].

You are so contemptible.

That is horrific. Thank you for the data.

Right? And it can show up decades later.

September 11, 2025
Public Health Reminds Residents About the Importance of Measles Vaccination Following the Death of a Child from a Measles-Related Complication
http://publichealth.lacounty.gov/phcommon/public/media/mediapubhpdetail.cfm?prid=5135

The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health encourages residents to make sure that all members of their families are protected against measles following the recent tragic death of a school-aged LA County resident from a complication of measles infection acquired during infancy. The child was originally infected with measles as an infant before they were eligible to receive the measles vaccine which is routinely recommended to be administered between 12 and 15 months. Although they recovered from the initial measles illness, the child developed and ultimately died from subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE)—a rare but universally fatal complication that can occur in individuals who had measles early in life.

SSPE is a rare, progressive brain disorder that is a late complication of infection from the measles virus. SSPE usually develops seven to ten years after the initial measles infection after the patient seemed to fully recover. It is characterized by a gradual and worsening loss of neurological function with death occurring one to three years after the initial diagnosis. There is no cure or effective treatment. It is rare, affecting about 1 in 10,000 people with measles, but the risk may be much higher — about 1 in 600 — for those who get measles as infants.

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Anonymous wrote:It took a year(?) (or less) without vaccines to trigger all these outbreaks?? Ugh.

Guess what also seems to trigger immune amnesia, just like the measles virus? COVID-19. We might be seeing some of this as fallout sequelae from multiple COVID-19 infections.

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Anonymous wrote:It took a year(?) (or less) without vaccines to trigger all these outbreaks?? Ugh.

Right wing conservatives have been anti vax for a while. It's why all the conservative Catholic college kids in Florida are getting measles.

When you don't have here immunity due to vaccines, these diseases come back fast.

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Anonymous wrote:So when are we going to get the pile of bodies we were promised?

1 to 3 in 1000 children with measles die. Try as you might, you haven't been able to infect that many yet in this outbreak. There have been some child deaths already in overall cases, though.

Just imagine how much fun you'd have if you could ensure they were all unvaccinated! Are you betting on the numbers? What's the spread?

The rate was 1 in 1000 back in 1960. You guys really should update your numbers now and then, because a lots happened in the last 65 years. We don't have pockets of malnourished children like we did then, so the disease ends up being pretty mild.

The disease remains severe. What we have now is ECMO, ventilators, a whole lot of pharma, and the ability to crack a kid’s head open so his swollen brain has somewhere to go. If you don’t mind dropping a couple of million, we can save your kid, too. No guarantees about what he’s going to be like after, though.

+1 this person is very ignorant. 11% of the people diagnosed with measles in 2025 were hospitalized, more than 1/10. Three of these people who had measles died last year! In 2025, even with modern medical care you are talking about the fatality rate was still 1/760 last year.

Makes me so angry. These are needless deaths. Brought on by repudiation of one of the most amazing things science has ever produced because a conman wants to be president.

Most deaths in this country are arguably needless, but we give people the freedom to make the decisions that lead to their deaths or the deaths of others. We let any ole idiot purchase a 5,000 pound battering ram and drive it around a city, while carrying a military inspired weapon, a couple of pit-bulls roaming around the backseat while chugging the largest slurpee they could fit in a cup-holder. All of these things are far dumber decisions than passing on the measles vaccine and they produce far more deaths.

That's before you factor in the often ignored fact that vaccines are not risk free. You really should read the package inserts of the vaccines you advocate for. Let me show you a small portion of one:
Nervous System
Encephalitis; encephalopathy; measles inclusion body encephalitis (MIBE) subacute sclerosing
panencephalitis (SSPE); Guillain-Barré Syndrome (GBS); acute disseminated encephalomyelitis (ADEM);
transverse myelitis; febrile convulsions; afebrile convulsions or seizures; ataxia; polyneuritis;
polyneuropathy; ocular palsies; paresthesia; syncope."

Hrmm, one of those looks familiar...

So how many kids do we have to give SSPE to, uh, save kids from SSPE?

You know it's more common with the viral infection than with the vaccine, right?

I do not, could you tell me what the rate is for the vaccine?

Either way thanks to the work up thread on the lethality of SSPE we can safely say the MMR vaccine is killing kids.

People are disgusted by you, and rightfully so. You are reviled.

The rate of SSPE after vaccination is roughly 0.7 to 1 per million doses, and it is thought to be connected to unrecognized pre-existing measles infection.

The risk from measles infection (without widespread vaccination, this is essentially 100%, because it is so contagious) is a rate of somewhere between 10-300 cases per million -- unless you are under 1 year old, where the rate goes up to about 1 in 600.

You are so contemptible.

So that’s 3.6 million kids a year times two doses, SSPE at .7 per million and 95% fatality rate gets roughly 5 deaths per year. Agreed?

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly for Americans, many are going to learn some very stark lessons that will have lifelong repercussions.

Darwin's 'Natural Selection'

For the zillionth time, no.

It isn't just the innocent children of the parents who will be punished. It's babies under 12 months who are not old enough to be vaccinated. It is people undergoing chemo for treatable cancer. It is elderly people and people who are immune deficient. If it were just the stupid people, it would still be wrong to put their offspring at risk, but it isn't. There are a lot of victims here.

Then complain to your congresspersons. If you can find them.

What are you going on about? I call and write to my congressman at least once a week even though we agree on almost everything. What's your point again?

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Anonymous wrote:Sadly for Americans, many are going to learn some very stark lessons that will have lifelong repercussions.

Darwin's 'Natural Selection'

For the zillionth time, no.

It isn't just the innocent children of the parents who will be punished. It's babies under 12 months who are not old enough to be vaccinated. It is people undergoing chemo for treatable cancer. It is elderly people and people who are immune deficient. If it were just the stupid people, it would still be wrong to put their offspring at risk, but it isn't. There are a lot of victims here.

Then complain to your congresspersons. If you can find them.

What are you going on about? I call and write to my congressman at least once a week even though we agree on almost everything. What's your point again?

The point is that Congress has the power to impeach Kennedy and tell Trump that his next nominee needs to have expertise in public health. Though unpalatable to Congress, it actually is in the driver’s seat here.