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Thus far in 2026, more people have been killed on the roads (https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/traffic-data) than have been murdered (https://mpdc.dc.gov/am/dailycrime).
It’s wonderful that crime appears to have fallen so sharply and we can only hope that this continues. However, that so many people are dying on DC roads is unsurprising to many of us who witness that moronic behavior of some drivers on our streets. |
Serious question: doesn’t it harm your hearing ? |
You get the award for most egregious misrepresentation of statistics. Here's more than a decade's worth of data, which is a tad more reliable than what random things happened in the past four weeks. 2024: 20 killed by speeding drivers, 187 murdered 2023: 22 killed by speeding drivers, 274 murdered 2022: 9 killed by speeding drivers, 203 murdered 2021: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 226 murdered 2020: 15 killed by speeding drivers, 198 murdered 2019: 10 killed by speeding drivers, 166 murdered 2018: 9 killed by speeding drivers, 160 murdered 2017: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 116 murdered 2016: 8 killed by speeding drivers, 135 murdered 2015: 11 killed by speeding drivers, 162 murdered 2014: 12 killed by speeding drivers, 105 murdered 2013: 11 killed by speeding drivers, 104 murdered |
| What happened between 2022 and 2023? Isn't that when all the new safety measures were introduced? |
Who is 'they'? Property owners clear the sidewalks. Does DC have bikelane sized blows? OP, put a mini plow on front of your bike. |
| omfg will the entitlement of biker bros never end??? |
Like cease to exist? You drive like you're trying to make that happen. |
While some may choose to believe that your constant repetition of statistics that have been debunked dozens of times (since these numbers represent only some of the people killed by speeding drivers each year) is a demonstration of mendacity on your part, it seems more likely that you are unfortunately afflicted with a disorder that is affecting your ability to recall previous discussions. My heart goes out to you and I hope you get the care you need. |
If you're going to lie, you shouldn't be surprised that people point out that you're lying. Here's a link to all the police reports with the data: https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/mpd-annual-reports |
Yes. While it may be that the person who is propagating these falsehoods is motivated by a heartfelt desire to make the streets of DC less safe by minimizing the manifest dangers of speeding vehicles, they are more probably a victim of a failing memory. Having the same conversation with an elderly person over and over again is a heartbreaking experience. It’s sad to see one of our DCUM brethren suffering the same fate. |
The data that have been posted are not being represented correctly. These are not the numbers of people killed on DC streets by speeding drivers because no such data exists. The data instead represents the number of people who were killed in a crash where speeding was determined to be the primary cause of the crash. As most of us know, crashes often have multiple causes. A drunk person may be speeding, swerving recklessly, not paying attention, lose control of their vehicle, fail to yield, and kill someone. Take away any one of those factors and there is no crash or at least no fatality. A couple of years ago, a pedestrian was killed on a crosswalk near where I live. The pedestrian was knocked over a hundred feet and it seems very clear as a result that the driver was speeding. But the driver was charged with failing to yield and so that presumably was designated as the primary cause. This is a long way of making the point that the number of people who have been killed by speeding drivers is not the same as the number of people who were killed in crashes where speeding was deemed to be the primary cause. Why someone on here wants to intentionally mislead others and minimize the public health hazard posed by speeding, I have no idea. But it is shameful and Jeff really should be deleting those comments. |
This is completely wrong and awfully offensive to people who've had loved ones killed by drivers who were going the speed limit. |
I think the issue is that person is misinterpreting studies showing fatalities generally declining with speed. They do decline, but only incrementally and they're talking about averages across large numbers of people. They're definitely not saying you won't die if the car isn't speeding. |
The police call them "speed-related fatalities," which would seem to cover your concerns. |
It’s a hypothetical situation. How can a hypothetical situation be wrong? Spare us the silly fake outrage, please. And if you had even a rudimentary understanding of physics, you would understand that speed disproportionately increases the probability of a crash resulting in a fatality. |