As an Immigrant I support ICE (in concept)

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Anonymous wrote:Did it ever occur to you that as a European immigrant, there are easier ways for you to legally immigrate here?

It is much harder for people from poor, brown countries to come here legally. You think that’s a coincidence? No, it’s been American policy for decades if not centuries to limit people who are not white from coming here legally.

Explain how it is harder for people from “brown countries” (your words) independent of economic means I’ll wait.

NP. The USA sets a quota of 7% cap per country for green card entry. The larger the country’s demand, the long et the wait. For instance, if you’re from Denmark, your ability to get a green card will be easy peasy because there’s not of Danes trying to immigrate to the US. However, if you’re from China or Honduras, you’ll have a much longer wait, as in decades to get a legal entry for a green card.

Ok…? This seems like a fair system to keep immigration levels from the world from being dominated by a small handful of countries.

Agree. And let’s stop pretending like the ability to legally move here is some entitlement that should be available yo anyone. It isn’t. And it isn’t in any other country either.

No one said it is except xenophobic MAGA racists. Seeking asylum is a legal process that is denied to most applicants.

If that is true than all the more reason not to release them to scatter into the country and enroll their children in school (so they can later claim “OMG we can’t take these children away from the school community they have become apart of!” as if they are entitled to stay because of that alone.)

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OP, I have implored my kids not to watch the video of today's execution but if someone needs to it's you. ICE can not be supported in concept, with money from Congress, or in any other way.

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Anonymous wrote:As a legal immigrant I am totally supportive of the concept of ICE.

Too many folks have taken advantage of this country and come here illegally. I came here for a better life from Europe and have worked hard and benefited from the opportunities and legal protections of the US.

I don’t support illegal immigration and in general I think we need laws and penalties if you break those rules. We need to send all illegal immigrants home.

I can’t understand people who opposes the concept of ICE. Don’t you care about your country? Already my area Silver Spring is becoming very Spanish and losing its American identity.

I do however have a problem with things happening now. I fear if ICE is too aggressive then the next Democratic administration will open the borders and defund ICE. We will see big increases in immigration- and continue to see wages stagnate and public services to be over run. I know most immigrants are peaceful but we will also some small increases in crime.

Trump knows many people want an immigration crack down and I support the concept. But we need targeted raids on known individuals and not street sweeps. It’s tragic anyone has gotten hurt.

It’s all so sad and I hope Trump tones things down soon. But we need ICE and we need them to be professional and effective- not a bunch of cowboys.

Long term it’s the Republican business owners who benefit most from illegal immigration- gives them cheap labor. Democrats need to side with Americans and not undercut the interests of poorer folks who are here legally.

As the Dems became a party for the rich elites they lost touch with poorer people and look down their noses anyone whose thinking does not conform to acceptable standards. If you care about American culture- hmm maybe you are racist.

The problem isn’t the idea of enforcing immigration law: most people support targeted, humane, due‑process‑based enforcement. There weren't massive protests during prior deportation initiatives. The problem is pretending that what’s happening now resembles anything "orderly" or "professional." This administration has embraced indiscriminate raids, street sweeps, and tactics that routinely violate constitutional protections. Citizens and legal residents have been detained, court orders ignored, and entire neighborhoods treated as hostile territory. Supporting immigration law does not require endorsing state‑sanctioned chaos or cruelty.

The demographic anxiety about Silver Spring "becoming Spanish" is not a policy argument; it’s nostalgia dressed up as nationalism. Communities in America have always changed, Irish to Italian, Jewish to Greek, German to Polish and Spanish‑speaking Americans have been part of this country longer than most European immigrant groups. Calling a place "less American" because people speak Spanish is not a defense of law; it’s discomfort with cultural evolution, even though cultural evolution has been going on for as long as America has been a nation.

The claim that Democrats are the "party of rich elites" is completely upside-down and collapses under even minimal scrutiny. Republicans elected a billionaire real‑estate mogul whose campaign is being propped up by ultra‑wealthy donors, including tech oligarchs pouring hundreds of millions into the race. Republican leaders routinely dismiss the affordability crisis as a "hoax," while their policy agenda overwhelmingly benefits high‑income households and corporations. Meanwhile, Democrats consistently support policies aimed at working‑ and middle‑class families, such as wage increases, healthcare access, child‑tax credits, union protections, and affordable‑housing investments. You don’t have to agree with those policies (although most Americans do), but calling them "elite" while defending a billionaire‑centric movement is incoherent.

Finally, blaming immigrants for wage stagnation and strained public services ignores the real drivers: corporate consolidation, declining union power, outsourcing, and employer exploitation of undocumented labor. That's something you yourself acknowledge is driven largely by Republican‑aligned business interests. Immigrants, documented or undocumented, commit fewer crimes than native‑born citizens, and crime trends correlate with economic stress, not immigration levels. Wanting humane, lawful enforcement doesn’t make anyone anti‑American; demanding accountability from government agencies is part of caring about the country. The issue isn’t whether ICE should exist, it’s whether it should operate within the law, with professionalism, and without brutality. Frankly it's sad that we even have to face that as a question. It should be a no-brainer, but unfortunately we are dealing with horrifically bad leadership.

There were no massive protests during previous administration because no one paid for them and no one organized them during Obama deportations. I am an immigration lawyer and people were deported in most inhumane ways during that time.

FFS take a hike with this crap. There is ZERO credible evidence that the protests popping up all around the country are being "paid for" and the mere fact that you totally lack credibility there also casts doubt on the rest of anything you say.

You are wrong. Not all of them are paid, but organizers are on payroll. Participants are just useful idiots.

No, YOU are wrong. There is no credible, substantiated evidence to support you. Just a handful of sketchy claims and even sketchier so-called "evidence."

This thread is flooded with anti-immigrants bot, shills and creeps.

It’s really shameful.

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Businesses in Minnesota that fly the American flag need to start hanging the flag upside down. Hang the American flag upside down. We are there.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you complain about people speaking Spanish in Puerto Rico, which is part of the USA? Do you complain about people speaking Hawaiian in Hawaii? Should we change all the Spanish named states to something English? What about Native Americans? Can they speak their language here?

Go back to your country, OP. You're anti-American.

+1 I was thinking the same thing.. OP should go back to their own country. We have enough racists here. We don't need to import more.

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Anonymous wrote:this is your problem, being a European immigrant - " Don’t you care about your country? Already my area Silver Spring is becoming very Spanish and losing its American identity. "

Hispanics have been part of the US for centuries. As a matter of fact, TX used to belong to MX.

DH is also a white European immigrant, and I'm an Asian immigrant. No, we don't support illegal immigration, but we don't expect the neighborhoods to be white, or Asian. Hispanics have a longer history here than most white people's ancestors.

You saying your neighborhood is becoming "Spanish" shows me that you think American identity is white. That's your problem.

Maryland was never part of Mexico. Spanish is a European language. And many Spanish speakers are "white".

So? The US is made of immigrants from all over. So what if a neighborhood turns mostly Hispanic? The English said the same thing when the Irish started coming here, and the Irish said the same thing when the Italians started coming here, etc..

Trump's mother was from a former sh(thole country called Scotland; Trump's grandfather came from Germany. But, they were ok to come and turn a neighborhood Scottish or German because they're white.



WTF is "American culture" anyways. It's a mismash of cultures, including Hispanic culture.

They pretended to be all Swedish because around the time of WWI everyone hated the Germans. At least one was lynched and many underwent attempted lynchings.

I agree too, this "American culture" is complete b.s. Maybe everyone should be living on turkey and hasty pudding?

A lot of countries actually have a form of Thanksgiving, and they also celebrate it with food and family. But, we don't do turkey. It's usually dry, and no one in our family really likes it. We do other things: roast duck, gumbo (OMG DH made smoked roast duck gumbo one year, and it was sooo good), roast chicken, ham, etc. We don't do "normal" thanksgiving dinner.

Are we unAmerican? I don't care. Do you?

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Anonymous wrote:As a legal immigrant I am totally supportive of the concept of ICE.

Too many folks have taken advantage of this country and come here illegally. I came here for a better life from Europe and have worked hard and benefited from the opportunities and legal protections of the US.

I don’t support illegal immigration and in general I think we need laws and penalties if you break those rules. We need to send all illegal immigrants home.

I can’t understand people who opposes the concept of ICE. Don’t you care about your country? Already my area Silver Spring is becoming very Spanish and losing its American identity.

I do however have a problem with things happening now. I fear if ICE is too aggressive then the next Democratic administration will open the borders and defund ICE. We will see big increases in immigration- and continue to see wages stagnate and public services to be over run. I know most immigrants are peaceful but we will also some small increases in crime.

Trump knows many people want an immigration crack down and I support the concept. But we need targeted raids on known individuals and not street sweeps. It’s tragic anyone has gotten hurt.

It’s all so sad and I hope Trump tones things down soon. But we need ICE and we need them to be professional and effective- not a bunch of cowboys.

Long term it’s the Republican business owners who benefit most from illegal immigration- gives them cheap labor. Democrats need to side with Americans and not undercut the interests of poorer folks who are here legally.

As the Dems became a party for the rich elites they lost touch with poorer people and look down their noses anyone whose thinking does not conform to acceptable standards. If you care about American culture- hmm maybe you are racist.

Agree with you 100% OP. I'm a first-gen american of legal immigrants who became citizens by following the laws.

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Anonymous wrote:Businesses in Minnesota that fly the American flag need to start hanging the flag upside down. Hang the American flag upside down. We are there.

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I think illegal immigration is a huge issue but I would focus on securing the borders to stop/deter new entrants. I am ok leaving those already here today alone. But those who make it here illegally going forward should be removed but not by the rabid dogs that is ICE today.

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Okay.

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Anonymous wrote:Did it ever occur to you that as a European immigrant, there are easier ways for you to legally immigrate here?

It is much harder for people from poor, brown countries to come here legally. You think that’s a coincidence? No, it’s been American policy for decades if not centuries to limit people who are not white from coming here legally.

Explain how it is harder for people from “brown countries” (your words) independent of economic means I’ll wait.

NP. The USA sets a quota of 7% cap per country for green card entry. The larger the country’s demand, the long et the wait. For instance, if you’re from Denmark, your ability to get a green card will be easy peasy because there’s not of Danes trying to immigrate to the US. However, if you’re from China or Honduras, you’ll have a much longer wait, as in decades to get a legal entry for a green card.

Correct. What the pp said about being harder for “brown people” getting in has to do with volume of applicants in a given country, not racism.

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Anonymous wrote:Serious questions who is going to do
Farm work and Construction?
Legal immigrants from Europe?

I don’t know about the farm work, but there were plenty of both white and Black construction workers overlooked for hire due to wage compression.

Do you expect to see native born Americans in Montgomery County installing new asphalt shingle roofs if they are paid double the wage?

Yes, I do. Two months ago, I saw an all-white construction crew in WDC. They were out of Pennsylvania. Now, do I know if they are native born Americans, don't know. I only spoke to one, and he had an accent I recognized from my living stint around the Pittsburgh area.

My native-born, college-educated (STEM) brother lays shingle. Why is that so hard to fathom? He also does other construction. It’s like if you repeat the myth enough, it will come true. Let’s face it — saying it is a job that Americans won’t do, is soft form of racism, with the subtext that only Hispanics do that work, not Middle Eastern, Native American, Black, White, or Asian. That kind of mindset pigeon holes Hispanics into those low wage jobs — at least long term. There is a bias rhat some other immigrant groups will not work those low wage jobs for long. Ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Businesses in Minnesota that fly the American flag need to start hanging the flag upside down. Hang the American flag upside down. We are there.

Isn’t that what a spouses of a Supreme Court (?) judge did?

So silly the merry go round of doing what the other team does.

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Anonymous wrote:As a legal immigrant I am totally supportive of the concept of ICE.

Too many folks have taken advantage of this country and come here illegally. I came here for a better life from Europe and have worked hard and benefited from the opportunities and legal protections of the US.

I don’t support illegal immigration and in general I think we need laws and penalties if you break those rules. We need to send all illegal immigrants home.

I can’t understand people who opposes the concept of ICE. Don’t you care about your country? Already my area Silver Spring is becoming very Spanish and losing its American identity.

I do however have a problem with things happening now. I fear if ICE is too aggressive then the next Democratic administration will open the borders and defund ICE. We will see big increases in immigration- and continue to see wages stagnate and public services to be over run. I know most immigrants are peaceful but we will also some small increases in crime.

Trump knows many people want an immigration crack down and I support the concept. But we need targeted raids on known individuals and not street sweeps. It’s tragic anyone has gotten hurt.

It’s all so sad and I hope Trump tones things down soon. But we need ICE and we need them to be professional and effective- not a bunch of cowboys.

Long term it’s the Republican business owners who benefit most from illegal immigration- gives them cheap labor. Democrats need to side with Americans and not undercut the interests of poorer folks who are here legally.

As the Dems became a party for the rich elites they lost touch with poorer people and look down their noses anyone whose thinking does not conform to acceptable standards. If you care about American culture- hmm maybe you are racist.

Agree with you 100% OP. I'm a first-gen american of legal immigrants who became citizens by following the laws.

How about following this video, 1st Gen? https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/W80Dp9J69h

A legal citizen and ICU nurse was protecting a woman who was slammed to the ground. His name is Alex Pretti and he was beaten, pepper sprayed, and executed. Shot 7 times and left dead on a Minneapolis street.

You’re not special 1st Gen immigrant. We don’t have a caste system. Btw 1st Gen, we capitalize the word American. If you voted for Trump, you should self deport.

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Nobody disagrees with the concept of "ICE" or deportation of people who are her illegally, it can be done without agents roaming the streets with masks covering their faces and without them barging into any home without a warrant.

What is the right location to apprehend an illegal immigrant?