The Maryland Reparations Commission has been enacted into law

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Anonymous wrote:For supporters of reparations and this as a general strategy, what outcome do you believe it will achieve other than providing cash to certain individuals? Would you expect it to reduce or eliminate claims of systemic racism? Do you believe it will reduce or eliminate racial discrimination complaints? Do you believe it will measurably change the income, status, or well being of those who are paid?

If I'm being honest, I don't think it will do any of those things. I think it will be a one-time boon to those who are paid and a moment for legislators to pat themselves on the backs. If I thought long-term good would come of it, I would be more open to it.

Just cash is enough

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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?

No one is asking you personally to pay FFS. The government did an injustice and the government will pay.

How do you think the govt will pay?

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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?

No one is asking you personally to pay FFS. The government did an injustice and the government will pay.

How do you think the govt will pay?

Education is so important.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?

By that logic, why should first and second generations reap the benefits of something they had nothing to do with?

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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?

By that logic, why should first and second generations reap the benefits of something they had nothing to do with?

like what? working hard?

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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?

By that logic, why should first and second generations reap the benefits of something they had nothing to do with?

like what? working hard?

You keep repeating that nonsense. I can assure you that the enslaved black people worked a lot harder than you ever will.

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Anonymous wrote:Maryland’s legislature recognizes the need to a return to segregating Americans by skin color and treating them differently.

Yeah, no. Your racist shtick is not working here, bucko. Back to Facebook for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?

By that logic, why should first and second generations reap the benefits of something they had nothing to do with?

like what? working hard?

You keep repeating that nonsense. I can assure you that the enslaved black people worked a lot harder than you ever will.

I think we all agree on that. I think the issue is that the people who will be paid or not the people who were enslaved.

There’s no way you could pay people meaningful enough amount of money and educate them on how to save an invest that money to make a meaningful difference in their lives or in the lives of their children. It’s an unfortunate reality of life that you have to put in the cultural work to prioritize raising your children, educating them, teaching them about spending money, saving, and all of that. Some cultures do a better job of this than other others. Now maybe that’s due to systemic racism but it doesn’t matter is the point. Those cultures still have to learn if they want to change meaningfully for the long-term. That is why I am not in support of reparations

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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?

By that logic, why should first and second generations reap the benefits of something they had nothing to do with?

like what? working hard?

You keep repeating that nonsense. I can assure you that the enslaved black people worked a lot harder than you ever will.

I think we all agree on that. I think the issue is that the people who will be paid or not the people who were enslaved.

There’s no way you could pay people meaningful enough amount of money and educate them on how to save an invest that money to make a meaningful difference in their lives or in the lives of their children. It’s an unfortunate reality of life that you have to put in the cultural work to prioritize raising your children, educating them, teaching them about spending money, saving, and all of that. Some cultures do a better job of this than other others. Now maybe that’s due to systemic racism but it doesn’t matter is the point. Those cultures still have to learn if they want to change meaningfully for the long-term. That is why I am not in support of reparations

Doubling down with some more racist horsehit? How refreshing.

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Anonymous wrote:It is only a study

It will cost $60K/year for 3 years.

It won't. It will mysteriously need additional funding.

Maybe

Do you often catastrophize over maybes

Like the next potential mass shooting? See what I did there?

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Im of Irish decent. The Irish never owned slaves, never benefitted, from slaves and never enacted all the racist laws WASPS put in place.

Why should I pay anything?

This makes me want Trump to hammer the state of MD for this. Pull all fed jobs and fed funding from MD, please.

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This thread is why I roll my eyes so far back in my head that I see grey matter when I hear non-black Americans wax poetic about Martin Luther King. Even though most Americans can only quote a fragment of one sentence from one speech, they endlessly do so as a weapon to shame black folk.

Anyhoo, here's some more from that speech in 1963 y'all love so darn much:

We have come to our nation’s capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. … It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked “insufficient funds.” But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt.

Wait, there's more the man said in 1968:

At the very same time that America refused to give the Negro any land, through an act of Congress our government was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and the Midwest, which meant that it was willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor. But not only did they give the land, they built land grant colleges with government money to teach them how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize their farms. Not only that today, many of these people are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, and they are the very people telling the Black man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. Now, when we come to Washington in this campaign, we are coming to get our check.

Oppose reparations? Great, that's your right. Just keep Martin Luther King's name out of your mouth.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-march-on-washington-was-a-case-for-reparations/
https://reparationscomm.org/reparations-news/martin-luther-kings-case-for-reparations-still-rings-true/

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is why I roll my eyes so far back in my head that I see grey matter when I hear non-black Americans wax poetic about Martin Luther King. Even though most Americans can only quote a fragment of one sentence from one speech, they endlessly do so as a weapon to shame black folk.

Anyhoo, here's some more from that speech in 1963 y'all love so darn much:

We have come to our nation’s capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. … It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked “insufficient funds.” But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt.

Wait, there's more the man said in 1968:

At the very same time that America refused to give the Negro any land, through an act of Congress our government was giving away millions of acres of land in the West and the Midwest, which meant that it was willing to undergird its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor. But not only did they give the land, they built land grant colleges with government money to teach them how to farm. Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. Not only that, they provided low interest rates in order that they could mechanize their farms. Not only that today, many of these people are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, and they are the very people telling the Black man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. Now, when we come to Washington in this campaign, we are coming to get our check.

Oppose reparations? Great, that's your right. Just keep Martin Luther King's name out of your mouth.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-march-on-washington-was-a-case-for-reparations/
https://reparationscomm.org/reparations-news/martin-luther-kings-case-for-reparations-still-rings-true/

PREACH IT!!!!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:The Maryland Reparations Commission has been enacted into law. Let’s clarify what the Civil Rights movement and the the 1968 Civil Rights Act aimed for:

- it was a promise to future generations that our government would never again prioritize one race over another.

This bill (now a Maryland law) undermines the unifying purpose of the Civil Rights movement.

It's hard to be "unified" when a major group in the US is still feeling the lingering effects of systemic racism.

If you don't want to prioritize one race over another, then everyone should dump ALL of their wealth together and then split it evenly across everyone in the US. We can start over so that white people aren't continued to be prioritized over everyone else - we all start off equal.

You do realize the wealthiest racial group in the US isn't white, don't you?

Uhm what? Where did you come up with that tid bit?

Asian median wealth is significantly higher than white median wealth in the US. Did you not know this? Would you like me to share some references?

I'd love that. And who would be getting the reparations again? Is the Asians?

…and how many Asian people are there?

You suck at math.

The Urban Institute. LOL. That's hilarious. You may as well cite Jesse Jackson and claim it's impartial.

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Anonymous wrote:Nice try. Why should first and second generation immigrants pay for something we had nothing to do with (including Jim Crow era)?

No one is asking you personally to pay FFS. The government did an injustice and the government will pay.

This is so typical mindset of “give me, you owe me” folks.

How about we enslave your family for a couple of generations and see how you feel at the end of that lovely experience?

I mean, most Irish pretty much were. But none of them are saying "Gimme".

We can argue about pedantry and sentiment, but the existence of sustenance famers in Ireland mid 19th century aint a whole hell of a lot different than your average slave in 1864 South Carolina. Probably worse off overall in terms of resources. You can absolutely be sure that most enslaved house servants in SC at that time had lives ten times more comfortable than your average Mick.